SHORTAGE OF NURSES

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I HAVE 1 QUESTION : IS THERE REALLY A SHORTAGE OF NURSING EVERYWHERE????:geek:

Specializes in Critical Care.

The only shortage is that hospitals don't hire enough staff and work short to save money! The only way to change that is a federal law to impose safe staffing ratios!

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
If there is no nurse shortage, then why is the saying out there??

Its deliberate false propagda. The goal is to create a huge over supply of nurses (goal accomplished). The goal of creating an over supply of nurses is to drasticaly reduce nurse's compensation (already well underway) and power to improve working and patient care conditions.

Even the so callled "evidence" that came out 20 years ago was based on inaccurate data. I have been in nursing for 18 years and there has never been any more that a highly localized shortage of nurses.

Plenty of open positions tells you absolutly nothing about the supply of nurses. If there is an RN position that a hospital can't fill, while 5 qualifed RNs are enjoying their jobs in other fields where they are treated and paid better, it's not a nursing shortage.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
I've been a VA employee- twice. Employment process takes 4-6 months.

Vets are first choice in all VA jobs.

Not the case at all. Title 38 employees (includes RNs) are not elligable for veterans hiring preference.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
Not only that, but a decent sized VA Hospital is scheduled to open in Denver when I graduate, and as a disabled vet I think I should have a decent shot at getting work there!

You may well have a decent shot at working there. However your veterans status won't matter. You are not elligable for veterans preference. If you apply for a CNA or house keeping job you would be but title 38 employees ar enot.

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Its deliberate false propagda. The goal is to create a huge over supply of nurses (goal accomplished). The goal of creating an over supply of nurses is to drasticaly reduce nurse's compensation (already well underway) and power to improve working and patient care conditions.

Even the so callled "evidence" that came out 20 years ago was based on inaccurate data. I have been in nursing for 18 years and there has never been any more that a highly localized shortage of nurses.

Plenty of open positions tells you absolutly nothing about the supply of nurses. If there is an RN position that a hospital can't fill, while 5 qualifed RNs are enjoying their jobs in other fields where they are treated and paid better, it's not a nursing shortage.

I've been saying the same for years, and people (especially nurses) would get angry at me, and tell me how wrong I was, lol.

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Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.
I've been a VA employee- twice. Employment process takes 4-6 months.

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Still not going to help the school's reported 90% placement within 3 months of graduation. I was told vets don't get preference for nursing jobs, especially as new grads (confirmed by PMFB above )

I don't think a new facility will take an abundance of new grads they need experienced staff first supplemented by less experienced & inexperienced staff. No facility can succeed if they prioritize hiring inexperienced new grads over qualified experienced nurses.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
Didn't realize that there was not a shortage of Nurses (I'm going to Nursing School this summer)... But reading the posts, I'm glad that I'm going to Colorado (a state that seems to be one of the three best states for employment outlooks), and looking to get into the ER or ICU. So, all-in-all not bad news on the employment front :D

Interesting that my hospital has recently hired several nurses from Colarado who tell us they couldn't find work there. Even those who do have work face low pay relitive to the cost of living.

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Not the case at all. Title 38 employees (includes RNs) are not elligable for veterans hiring preference.

Really? Hmmmm.

Kind of goes against what I've observed, but that is just anecdotal.

However, the way the VA says things work, and the way they really work are often entirely different. :)

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
Really? Hmmmm.

Kind of goes against what I've observed, but that is just anecdotal.

However, the way the VA says things work, and the way they really work are often entirely different. :)

It's VA policy. Title 38 emplyees are not eligable for veterans preference.

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Specializes in SICU, trauma, neuro.
@ BenchyRN2Be What better reschreach can you get, if you go straight to the nurses that are actually in the nursing field???:bored:

First off, personal experiences and isolated answers from certain nurses is "anecdotal," not research.

But she wasn't getting it from nurses actually in the nursing field--she was referring to Facebook rumors, high school guidance office which probably isn't doing in-depth market research on any career path, and a nursing text which has been addressed already (using old DOL stats)

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Specializes in SICU, trauma, neuro.
The ANA still claims there is a nursing shortage.

Apparently it's not severe enough for the ANA to be grateful for all the ADN and diploma RNs wishing to be employed :sarcastic:

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I've been a VA employee- twice. Employment process takes 4-6 months.

Vets are first choice in all VA jobs.

First statement is about right, second....not so much. Medical/Nursing professionals (aka Title 38 employees, MD/RN/NP/PA) are on a level playing field with Veterans; best candidate gets the job, not the one with the most military points.

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