She is sleeping with a patient.............

[fournee]

I am an HIV LPN(NEW). My company hired a RN for role of clinic coordinator. This Rn was fired from a previous job 4-5 years ago, unknown reasons. We had the opportunity to interview her, myself and 3 PA's and her longest job in 5 years was 4 months. We said no, our director said yes.

She used to work at one of our affiliates clinics(where she was fired) and she asked me how can a pt. get transfered to us. We are a HIV clinic. I told her they just have to come over and change doctors. Needless to say the patient that she wanted to come over is also her live in boyfriend , who she met at the other clinic. She said she divorced her DOctor husband to be with him. She was his nurse and the pt is also a strong substance abuser. There are pictures of them kissing and on vacation on her web site. She has access to RX forms and other things. He is always here, hanging around. We sent pictures to our director, secretly, yesterday.

We don't know what will happen next.

QUESTION??????????Should the Illinois BON be informed. I looked up our nurses act and it states that one of the reasons for getting your license revoked, suspended is sexual contact with a patient.

[barefootlady, ADN, RN]

Keep a quiet watch . Things will come out if illegal RX are written or if drugs start becoming unaccounted for frequently. This is a situation no one can predict the ending other than it will go badly for her.

[Jo Dirt]

It is not your position to delve into her past. Unless it is adversely affecting patient care, I would say leave things be. If she is going to hang herself, she will do it with her own rope. I'd stay out of it.

I think this could also be considered stalking.

Does she know people are conspiring to see her fired? This sounds too childish. I would think there would be too much work to do to worry about other peoples' personal lives.

[kharing]

Gosh, this seems like a witch hunt.

Seems this woman was marked the day she came to work.

Sending pictures may come back to haunt you and anyone else that sent them to the director. Just wrong.

[DaretoDreamRN]

It seems to me that you are in a way being malicious because you never wanted her to work with you in the first place. You should not expect everyone to act and make decisions the way you do. People do things differently. I really think you should have minded your own business and you should concentrate on being a better nurse. Youve only been a nurse for a year and you are already caught up in all this drama. I really think you had no right to send those pictures but u already did. Just because you dont approve of her choices doesnt give you the right to get her into trouble. Be careful because you never know where this career might take you..situations change easily...

[Tait, MSN, RN]

She already has an HIV+ boyfriend with a drug abuse past. I think her hands are full enough without having to worry about people at work as well.

Tait

[DaretoDreamRN]

Youve been a nurse for only ONE MONTH and you are involved in getting someone in trouble.....Focus on you career and improving yourself.....

[cherrysky]

Fournee, you sound really spiteful. Why in the world would you take someone's pictures and e-mail them to your director? I understand they were online but if they weren't doing anything bad...which I don't think being on vacation and kissing your bf constitute being bad....then why the would you take it upon yourself to spread her pictures around?

Maybe she is younger and you guys are a bit jealous? Maybe she's prettier than you guys? Or maybe it was because she was married to a doctor? Or maybe you're just angry that the director didn't listen to your group and made her own decision anyway? I can't think of any other reason why you would do that. I don't know how old you are, but if you have kids then I suggest you go online and check out what THEY are posting. What you did was incredibly immature and I think it stems from jealousy.

[cherrysky]

Again, not trying to be mean, but I also noticed that you are a newly licensed LPN. So I find myself wondering how you were involved in the "hiring" process to start with.

I really and truly hope that this isn't how you plan to get "recognition" in your career, by seeking out co-workers and trying to destroy their reputation and careers.

Healthcare settings are gossipy enough without people adding to it.

Don't get the reputation of being the "clinic troublemaker". The healthcare field is a small one, and even smaller when you are HIV-specialized...considering this person is an RN and has been practicing for awhile...don't be surprised one day if you find yourself in a situation where this person is your boss.

I apologize in advance, this situation really as me bothered on just how far some people will go in a work setting just because they don't like you. It is very, very disturbing.

I completely agree with everything you have said. I think this is the type of person people on here complain about -- the person that has some problem with you and you have no idea why, they kind of person that tries to make others look bad.

BEWARE EVERYONE -- any person that works in any sort of environment should know that there are ppl like this out there that will try to take you DOWN. This person was considering notifying the BON with something that was absolutely not her business and was not a health care concern! She was willing to needlessly put someone's license in jeopardy because of her own pettiness!

BEWARE!

[ijuanabhappy, ASN, RN]

Fournee, you sound really spiteful. Why in the world would you take someone's pictures and e-mail them to your director? I understand they were online but if they weren't doing anything bad...which I don't think being on vacation and kissing your bf constitute being bad....then why the would you take it upon yourself to spread her pictures around?

Maybe she is younger and you guys are a bit jealous? Maybe she's prettier than you guys? Or maybe it was because she was married to a doctor? Or maybe you're just angry that the director didn't listen to your group and made her own decision anyway? I can't think of any other reason why you would do that. I don't know how old you are, but if you have kids then I suggest you go online and check out what THEY are posting. What you did was incredibly immature and I think it stems from jealousy.

I don't think we should make references to put down one's attractiveness or age. That is not being mature either if you think about it. Whatever the reason she had for doing what she did.. it was wrong and not her place. Just my opinion.

[ThatPoshGirl]

Once when I was in the Navy we got a new roommate fresh out of boot. Within an hour of coming into the room she sat there and listed off six people that had wronged her during boot camp that she got kicked out, including her company commander.

Not surprisingly about two months later I was called into the Senior Chief's office to answer to a complaint from her. She said that we had gotten in a fight over the weekend and I threw food at her and swore at her. I recounted our experience of her first night when she listed off all the people she had gotten kicked out and then produced the receipt from the hotel I had stayed at over the weekend because I was OUT OF TOWN :smackingf. The funny thing was, she hadn't even walked into the room for at least a month because she was staying with her boyfriend off base.

About a month after that she accused the boyfriend of beating her up and named me as a witness. She claimed that I had talked to her about bruises that he gave her. *****

I'm always leary of people who like to get other people in trouble.

Er... w-t-f is censored? That's unfortunate.

[core0]

While the majority seems ready to pillory the OP, the OP does bring up some valid points. I find it interesting that people choose to attack the OP while ignoring the points that are brought up:

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She used to work at one of our affiliates clinics(where she was fired) and she asked me how can a pt. get transfered to us. We are a HIV clinic. I told her they just have to come over and change doctors. Needless to say the patient that she wanted to come over is also her live in boyfriend , who she met at the other clinic. She said she divorced her DOctor husband to be with him. She was his nurse and the pt is also a strong substance abuser. There are pictures of them kissing and on vacation on her web site. She has access to RX forms and other things. He is always here, hanging around. We sent pictures to our director, secretly, yesterday.

We don't know what will happen next.

Per the OPs post the RN she describes met and began a relationship with the patient while she was a nurse there. This is a violation of the nursing practice act in pretty much every state. Having extricated herself from the position, the RN now is seeking to re-establish the problem. While it may not be a violation of the practice act to have her boyfriend move to the current clinic (depending on your state) it is a serious ethical violation. Ignoring the whole substance abuse issue, the nurse will have access to his medical records and test results. Most places have strong rules against treating family members (including SO's) and most practice acts at the very least describe this as a bad idea. It seems that there are a number of bad decisions being made here.

On the other hand I do agree that its really not OPs job to fix this. This will eventually fix itself. As far as reporting it to the nursing board, any professional generally has a duty to report violations to the respective board. In this case, there is no direct evidence that there is a violation just a presumption.

As a PA, in the unlikely event that I would stay around in such an organization, I would make sure my scrip pads were under my control and ensure that I got monthly lists of my schedule prescriptions (if your state offers this option).

Finally, we only have the OPs side of this story. There could be more than one point of view. This is the curse and promise of a bunch of anonymous people discussing things on the internet.

David Carpenter, PA-C

[cherrysky]

I don't think we should make references to put down one's attractiveness or age. That is not being mature either if you think about it. Whatever the reason she had for doing what she did.. it was wrong and not her place. Just my opinion.

I absolutely was not trying to put down her age or attractiveness (although now I see her age). I didn't call her old or ugly. It many cases if someone is maybe younger or prettier than you you may feel jealous and this may lead to some sort of behavior such as this. I was just really trying to figure out why in the world would someone put someone else's job and LICENSE on the line for having some pics of her kissing her bf and having a bf that was a substance abuser. I don't think I said anything that was out of line or immature...I merely asked questions (rhetorical as they may be) in order to understand her actions. Wouldn't you feel outraged if someone put your job or license on the line? That woman isn't even here to defend herself (thank god the OP didn't post her name and pics here!). Look at the title of the thread "She is sleeping with a patient.............", that in and of itself makes it look like some nurse is having a sexual relationship with a patient she was nursing and on her breaks is going to his room to sleep with him. Personally, I would be outraged...as should everyone else.