Emergent Situation Gone Wrong. Ideas?

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Hello all! I have been a nurse for 11 years, 8 of which I've spent in Hospice care. This is my 3rd year as a school nurse. Recently my school had my first truly emergent situation in which a student with unremarkable medical history was having seizures outside at lunchtime. It was absolute chaos. I knew what to do for the student. But the other adults around me were panicked and all trying to take control at the same time (Administration was on scene too and was also panicking). Everyone had a radio and they were all talking on it at once so I couldn't talk to the main office who had 911 on the phone. A security guard was standing over me yelling at the student to 'calm down' as student tried to stand (big kid) post seizure and promptly went into another seizure. Student turned blue and stopped breathing. He had a thready pulse. I flipped student onto his back from his left side and opened his airway, ready to begin CPR if necessary, and the act of flipping him rather roughly (adrenaline is an interesting thing....) got him breathing again. Thank heavens for my health assistant, who was marvelous at getting just what I needed such as the AED on standby and a face sheet for EMS. Long story short, student was dehydrated and did not have lunch so blood sugars were in the toilet (not a known diabetic).

Deconstructing the event I see that I needed to take control and failed to do so as I got 'tunnel vision' about the student's immediate needs.

So I'm wondering, do printed protocols work to help avoid this situation in the future? School district does not have them but I figure I could put some together. How do I handle Admin? Would a team of adults to be called out for an emergency be helpful? Any other thoughts?

Thanks!

Specializes in kids.
Why is it that everyone assumes Psych nurses don't know how to handle a medical emergency? The Nurses at our facility are pretty good at this stuff but we do drill on it and have code teams in place etc...

Just saying

Hppy

I would think she was talking about that particular group of psych nurses? Not all?

Assuming Psych knows nothing medical is just par for the course. Nurses eating their young, their old, their Psychs, and all that. LOL (sort of)

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Yea. Ummm...No.

We don't do that in this Forum. We are one of the most welcoming and helpful and supportive Forums on AN.

Put the spoon away, please. This pot doesn't need stirring.

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Put the spoon away, please. This pot doesn't need stirring.

Completely Agree.

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Specializes in Pediatrics Retired.
Yep! This forum is only support and constructive suggestions!

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Specializes in IMC, school nursing.
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Specializes in Pediatrics Retired.
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​SEE!!

Specializes in "Wound care - geriatric care.

Sugar...sugar...sugar. All these kids eat is sugar. Our diet of refined carbohydrates laced with sugar is all these kids eat. Eventually a kid with propensity for hypoglycemic disturbances end up like that.

I have another question. If I put an EMT on my posse of folks who respond in an emergent situation, who is in charge of the scene? The EMT obviously has more experience with emergent situations than I do, but I am the nurse.....How could I utilize an EMT?

Wow!

Again , my background is in Emergency Medicine not a school setting. Keeping that in mind...

People who do not have medical training needs to be out of the situation and only help if the person handling it who has medical training asks for that help and directs them as to what they need to do.

It is VERY common for a patient who is seizing to cease respirations during the seizure and o2 sats to drop. Once the seizure stops they often will spontaneously begin respirations again.

Rolling to the side is to help prevent aspiration from mucus or vomit, also common after a seizure.

You did not say how old the child was , but the fact they had more than one seizure seemingly back to back would be concerning and I hope he got a full Neuro work up wherever he was taken. That is not a normal reaction to low blood sugars in a non diabetic or even dehydration that is not extreme.

Its important to note that even once a patient stops tonic and clonic movements seizure activity can still exist without obvious signs to the naked eye.

Being prepared to do CPR was good, getting the AED was good, Calling 911 also good, keeping the airway clear.. good.

As an ED nurse , I am trained to look for zebras , so I would be concerned about a toxin or drugs in a patient with no Hx of Seizures etc.. I'd be checking pupillary responses, BP etc.. also pain responses to help access GCS

Since this was a child without history , then the fect he had one seizure should guarantee him a trip to the ER ALWAYS. While waiting for EMS, you'd want to keep them quiet and the area around them calm as possible and do not allow them to sit or stand .

You would also want to ask others who were around when he had the first seizure if he fell, how he fell etc.. to look for additional injury and advise EMS.

Again this is not a typical response , so I would be prepared to handle this situation again in the future with this child should it recur.

It might be a good idea to meet with other staff and Admin and go over a plan in the event it goes on again and explain why its important to control the scene and outline duties each of them could do to help.

That must have been a hec of a day huh? ;)

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