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Hello! I am just looking for advice. Please feel free to respond!

Due to my mistakes with academic integrity I was suspended from the program for one year. In a letter from the School of Nursing and the Office of Academic Affairs it stated that In order for me to return to the program, the terms were for me to take a APA course (which I did on 11/27/2018). I also had to communicate with the program director on march 1, 2019 to state my return to the fall 2019 online MSN/FNP program because the hybrid program is now longer available. After my suspension I can return to Primary care II Nursing 621 in the fall 2019 because I passed Primary Care I with a B in Spring 2018.

Since February 2019, I have been in contact with two professors to register for Primary Care II. On 2/25/2019 I first reached out to -----------y about my return. She stated in the response that she is “checking steps you need to take and will get back to me.” Throughout the month of march 2019 we were communicating with each other about my return. On March 29, 2019 ---------------- reached out to me and stated they want to assess my knowledge and skills required for taking Primary II. On April 1, I received a call from phone call from----------------- stated in a week or two she wanted to assess my skills. Obvious, I stated I would come to be reevaluated. However, I also stated that Primary Care is a 6 credit course with clinical hours and there is a lot of material to go through and I have been out of school for close to a year so I’m not sure what she wants to be to study. Her response was that she just wanted to see where I was at and this is just assess my skills to create a plan of study and not to worry. I went over a couple of things I learned from class but I wasn’t sure that I was being evaluated on. I came to campus to meet with her April 16, 2019. When I arrived on campus, I was handed a packet and she stated that I will be tested on. When I examined that packed I realized that what I was being tested on was from Health assessment, NU 522, a class I took in the fall 2017, almost two years ago. I told her that this was from health assessment class and not Primary care I as we discussed over the phone. I knew how to do a basic head to toe assessment but not as detailed as she wants it to be (What she wanted me to do is a very detailed assessment which involved the assessment of every nerve, muscle and heart.) I told her I wouldn’t do well because this is too much information to go over in the next 15 minutes. At this point I was very upset but I attempted to completed the full assessment. Needless to say I didn’t do as well as I would like. At the end of the assessment she states she would get back to me about the next steps of my return by that Friday. We did not go over ways to improve or a plan which was stated in the their pervious emails. That Friday passed and I didn’t hear from her. I emailed her that again that Monday she said she needs to get in contact with one prof and she is waiting for a final plan. I didn’t hear anything for a couple of weeks. I emailed her again 4/26/2019 stating that I don’t understand why this process is so complicated. There was nothing in the letter that states I need to be evaluated or any policy stating that an evaluation is necessary. She responded and stated she is waiting on one prof to give a final plan. After weeks of waiting for a final plan, I wrote a very stern email stating that I have not heard from anyone in months. My plan of return is cut and dry and I don’t understand this waiting is necessary. I continued to communicate with them. Finally, on 6/4/2019 I get an email stating that I have a repeat Primary care I based on my evaluation 4/16. There was no explanation of why I need to repeat the course and that everyone including the the dean of the school of nursing agreed with the final plan. ----------- stated she was willing to have a conference call to discussed my next steps. We had a conference call 6/14/2019 and she stated that I had to repeat Primary I and also I had to start January 2020 and not Fall 2019. After the conversation I feel that I am not treated fairly because there wasn’t any explanation of why I had repeat a course and why wasn’t another form of remediation used or a plan of study initiated.

I completed my own research on procedures and policies on SHU and there isn’t policy that states that I based on a evaluation I had to repeat a course I took a year ago. If I repeated this course, it would cost me 7000 again. I don’t think it is appropriate for them to decide for me repeat a course based on one head to toe assessment. Primary I course contains a vast amount of information about many diseases and treatments and it is hard to determine what a student knows based on one assessment that is why during the course we had multiple exams and every student had to complete over a 150s hours of clinical hours to ensure that every student knows the demonstrates their skills. During the conference call I tried to explain my situation but they didn’t want to discuss it with me. The profs. are not acknowledging the decision made by the Provost and the school of Nursing. I went to the provost and he has agreed with them. any now I have to repeat the course and start a semester later.

Has anyone been through this type of situation? what should I do next?

Specializes in ICU, trauma, neuro.

In the defense of the OP I often post during breaks at clinical using a cell phone. This modality is far more likely to produce errors. Also, I find when I am emotional about issues that I make more errors. Also when my SO is around I make more errors because she doesn’t approve of forums such as this for me since I have a tendency to rant about issues she believes should be private.

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Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.
21 hours ago, caliotter3 said:

Tricia, I thought the very same thing but I bend over backwards so as not to be accused of criticizing. Sometimes I think too much tongue and lip biting is not doing the person asking for advice much good.

Yes, I prepared to get flamed. But to not say anything just seemed cruel. Like not letting someone know their tire looked flat.

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Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.
18 hours ago, myoglobin said:

In the defense of the OP I often post during breaks at clinical using a cell phone. This modality is far more likely to produce errors. Also, I find when I am emotional about issues that I make more errors. Also when my SO is around I make more errors because she doesn’t approve of forums such as this for me since I have a tendency to rant about issues she believes should be private.

Fair enough. I hope that is the case here. But in case it isn't, it did seem kinder to give the OP a heads up.

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Specializes in ICU, trauma, neuro.
2 hours ago, TriciaJ said:

Fair enough. I hope that is the case here. But in case it isn't, it did seem kinder to give the OP a heads up.

Well if you are correct perhaps his troubles started with plagiarism or inappropriate procurement of a paper to offset limitations in writing skill or ability. In which case I would recommend something like Grammarly .com which while ridiculously expensive is highly effective especially if combined with software like PERRLA to help with APA (without which I would have never been able to make it through school given that my APA formatting and reference skills are still deficient).

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I thought Grammarly was free.

Specializes in ICU, trauma, neuro.
2 minutes ago, caliotter3 said:

I thought Grammarly was free.

I think they have a free version, but the one with bells and whistles is something like $20.00 per month.

Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.

In all fairness I didn't see any glaring grammatical errors. Mostly just rambling and less than coherent. It could very well have been typical of a phone vent. But just in case it wasn't, I did want to remind OP to be careful in written communications to professors. When you're in a vulnerable spot and you need others to consider you favourably, every little thing can make the difference.

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6 hours ago, TriciaJ said:

Yes, I prepared to get flamed. But to not say anything just seemed cruel. Like not letting someone know their tire looked flat.

No flaming. Your reply was a well worded honest opinion. With good intent. OP stated she wanted opinions. I happen to agree as well.

On 7/13/2019 at 3:25 PM, TriciaJ said:

I really debated with myself before writing this post, because quite often I come across as pedantic and no one wants to hear it. Then I reread where you said you were looking for advice, so here goes:

I believe how we write says as much about us as how we dress and present ourselves personally. You original post has typos and huge walls of text that should have been arranged into paragraphs. It was also difficult to follow the course of events.

You made several references to written communication with your professors. Did you take care to write concisely and professionally, or is the above post a fair example? I'm sorry; it just didn't leave a very favourable impression. If I was trying to determine if a student should be readmitted I would be less likely to advocate in that person's favour.

I might be way out in left field here. I may be one of the very few people in the world who notices or cares about such things. In that case, carry on. I do believe however, that one's written communication style can go a long way to help or hinder one's efforts.

Good luck in any case.

I agree entirely. You worded this much more eloquently than I would have been able to.

You have three options:

1. Hire an attorney, which will be way more than $7,000, has no guarantee of success and, if successful, will likely place a target on your head.

2. Quit and start another program. A few credits may transfer, depending on the school you attended and the school you ultimately enroll in.

3. Jump through the hoops set up for you. I’m not sure what “mistakes (plural?!?) with academic integrity” are, but you may still encounter the target issue due to your past (and current, frankly) actions. I would imagine the extra hoops you are encountering now are merely the beginning of your issues.

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I have been falsely accused of things. Vindication is a long and sometimes bitter road. That being said:

The original post is a semi-incoherent rant.

When I did my head to toe assessment class, back in ancient times, we had to know the 12 cranial nerves.

I even learned a time honored mnemonic device for the occasion.

There was no mystery about it, and nobody in my class failed.

I used friends and family as volunteers.

Not sure if this is the case here, but I see a ton of posts about combining full time NP study with full time work.

I wish any person well, but perhaps you are not cut out to be an NP

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