scared i'm going to lose my license..

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I'm a new grad who just recently found a job in the east coast. It's in an acute psychiatric facility- my title--- Charge Nurse. The patient ratio here is 20:1. Upon the hiring, they said they will train me for 12 solid days on the unit. I am floating to all units of the hospital. I will be the only nurse on the unit who is responsible for CNA,LVN, all 20 patients who are acutely ill.

During orientation, they suddenly told us they're giving us five training days. =/ and i'm already almost done, i feel 25% competent by day 5. I am learning as fast as I can but in no way or shape, I can do what do in the next two days to be on my own. to make matters worst, you are literally the ONLY RN on the unit, and no other RN.

on weekends, no supervisors are around. no managers, no body. no doctors, no pharmacy. nothing. and my first shift alone, is going to be a weekends.

during orientation, the focus was $$$. you guessed, they are for-profit. Talking nonstop about how much the hospital is making. never once said the nurses are being treated well. Throughout orientation, i heard the words "how you can lose your license" almost 100 times. This is how you can lose your license, and if you do this, you can lose your license.. now if you do this, you can get reported, suspended.

this hospital has a history of firing 30 nurses in the last year- for god knows what reason. nurses are extremely burned out. all sounding like they want to quit and don't know how to manage to survive day by day. Only 1 nurse gave me a smiling face that he is doing fine. Today I got screamed at by one of the nurses who said " i refuse to let u draw up meds" because you've never been trained, and how can you be on your own after 1 day. management got involved, and told her its the new policy to just let the new orientees to "just do it" without training. and it was chaos.

of course all of us orientees went to management and spoke our concerns. they dismissed it and pulled out the schedule sheet. They said you're fine! don't worry! you wont get your license suspended! just be confident! here look, a supervisor is floating around (mind you this supervisor is in charge of the ENTIRE building), and she can just like look over you once in awhile. and if you really need help, just ask another nurse on another unit! they'll help you! =/ permission denied. another unit...??? i dont even know where the medicine bin is! GOODNESS!

the unit is chaos. the hospital is chaos. everyone is in the midst of chaos. the patients are crazier than the next, with kids cutting their wrist bleeding, and hitting the staff. The other, we just did several codes. I'm scared of the patients assaulting me here,, and sadly that's the least of my concerns for now.

i'm stressed out, i'm tired. this is not what i pictured it to be. any advice/ encouragement would be helpful.

i can easily say JUST LEAVE, but jobs are sooooo scarce in this part of the country. Half of my classmates didnt even find jobs yet. and i've waited a year and a half. sadly, i turned down 3 other interviews for this job and 2 wonderful without pay training programs. i regret it so much right now,i thought the real way of getting experience was just to get a job, and do it. no more holding your hands and guiding your, but this reality just too harsh. the sad part is, i am using zero nursing skills. i barely get a good glance at them before i have to start my charting for the day. there is nothing such as therapeutic communication or anything. its about making sure they don't kill themselves while on your care, and make sure you chart like crazy so you "cover your ass".

:eek:

Specializes in Med Surg.

Your car is stuck on the tracks and the train is coming at you full speed. Get out of the damn car and RUN! The only thing you will get by staying put is squashed.

This depends so much on the facility and the unit. For example, at the hospital I work prn for, med surg orientation is 2 months (or less if new grad feels ready and is bored).

What is most important is that orientation be organized (ex- some type of plan for what skills you should practice/perform, what types of patients you take, ensuring you know policy and documentation, etc) and that your mentor really wants to be a mentor and is not just "stuck" doing it. Also, you will know when you are ready. The hospital should be flexible within reason. For example, if you are bored a week prior to the end of orientation and really want more patients, they should allow that with support. Or, if you know you need an extra week or so, that should be an option, as long as you don't request several more months, lol.

How will you know you are ready? When you're ready, you will still have plenty of nerves, but will know who your resources are and where to go when you have questions. When you're ready, you will feel reasonably comfortable with "the system", for example, what to do if a med doesn't arrive on time from pharmacy, how to order another tray, understand your schedule, etc. Don't expect to feel 100% confident, you often won't for at least a year. But you SHOULD NOT feel what you seem to be feeling now- a gut instinct that this is not a good idea, that your license and your patients will be endangered. I've been doing this for years, and while most things are old hat, it's best to never be complacent. We never know it all, and can never be perfect. Just make it a goal to learn as much as you can and DON'T beat yourself up on the days when you did your best but still don't feel you will ever be that "perfect nurse" you learned about in school. Some day, you can and will be a great nurse, but none of us are perfect. If you hold yourself to that standard, it will make your job harder than necessary.

Also, try hard not to operate out of fear. By this I mean don't let the current economy scare you into taking "just any job." Hard work brought you to this point, and the right job will come in time. You may not start out in the area you love best, but you should feel safe on your unit. A dangerous job isn't worth it. The consequences are too severe.

And no, I don't think anyone looks down on you for taking this job. The more you learned about it, the more you realized things were wrong. It was not an easy thing to find out, I'm sure. Just don't let fear keep you there.

thank you :)

Specializes in CNA.

Yeah I would find another job..its not worth losing your license. Good luck in whatever u do.

Specializes in PICU.

I think you've gotten the answer you asked for...both by your instincts and fellow nurses. All the new grad programs I have seen for RN, at reputable hospitals I might add, are about 12 weeks. Obviously this can change with experience, etc. But NO WAY would I feel like I can be independant as a new grad on the floor MUCH LESS as a charge nurse!!!! When I was a new grad I got 12 weeks. When I transferred to a different unit (ICU) I got another 12 weeks. That is standard for our hospital. New grad going into ICU (Peds ICU is where I am at) get 24 weeks-12 on gen peds, and then 12 on PICU.

It has been said, they do not care about you. Their history says enough. And if something happens to you, they will just discard you (and possibly your license and reputation) and wait for the next victim. You do not owe them 2 weeks if you just started and don't allow them to guilt you into anything. You are a good nurse in just that you care about your standards of care, your skills, and your patients as well as general safety for yourself. Your instincts are right and if you doubt, just look around at your co-workers and the general morale. That should tell you enough. These are the places that "kill" good nurses (metaphorically) by making it impossible for them to work without taking shortcuts, by not allowing them to care, and by blurring the lines of safety and ethics. Sad.

Good luck to you! Keep us updated.

Today i fought, and i fought for 2 more days... that's 2 more days more than nothing. I am a firm believer i am not a quitter, so i will give this whole crazy ordeal 2 more days. you guys all been very helpful and nice, helping me through all this. I realize i came home today and i'm a complete mess. my mood is off, my anxiety is so high. i woke up at 3 am last night with a nightmare. i woke up and said.. " i cant be alone by this week!" today i felt like i was my own psych patient :uhoh3:

i want to a compassionate nurse. i want to care for my patients.. i want to use critical thinking and give excellent care. I feel i am being held back. my old professor said to me that i am only 24 young, with a lot of potential and a lot to give.. it didn't sound like this was the type of environment I am going to grow or be supported in. and it was all so true.

if theres anything i can pass on from this, new grads who are reading this, not every job is worth it. don't just take anything, even when its a miserable market.

i just got a job offer at one of the top magnet hospitals in the country. i feel so blessed. its at a stepdown cardiac unit. =) bye bye psych, hellloooooooo new job :)

thanks all who gave me support and advice! i'mma quit soon hehee

Congratulations!

I'm a new grad who just recently found a job in the east coast. It's in an acute psychiatric facility- my title--- Charge Nurse. The patient ratio here is 20:1. Upon the hiring, they said they will train me for 12 solid days on the unit. I am floating to all units of the hospital. I will be the only nurse on the unit who is responsible for CNA,LVN, all 20 patients who are acutely ill.

During orientation, they suddenly told us they're giving us five training days. =/ and i'm already almost done, i feel 25% competent by day 5. I am learning as fast as I can but in no way or shape, I can do what do in the next two days to be on my own. to make matters worst, you are literally the ONLY RN on the unit, and no other RN.

on weekends, no supervisors are around. no managers, no body. no doctors, no pharmacy. nothing. and my first shift alone, is going to be a weekends.

during orientation, the focus was $$$. you guessed, they are for-profit. Talking nonstop about how much the hospital is making. never once said the nurses are being treated well. Throughout orientation, i heard the words "how you can lose your license" almost 100 times. This is how you can lose your license, and if you do this, you can lose your license.. now if you do this, you can get reported, suspended.

this hospital has a history of firing 30 nurses in the last year- for god knows what reason. nurses are extremely burned out. all sounding like they want to quit and don't know how to manage to survive day by day. Only 1 nurse gave me a smiling face that he is doing fine. Today I got screamed at by one of the nurses who said " i refuse to let u draw up meds" because you've never been trained, and how can you be on your own after 1 day. management got involved, and told her its the new policy to just let the new orientees to "just do it" without training. and it was chaos.

of course all of us orientees went to management and spoke our concerns. they dismissed it and pulled out the schedule sheet. They said you're fine! don't worry! you wont get your license suspended! just be confident! here look, a supervisor is floating around (mind you this supervisor is in charge of the ENTIRE building), and she can just like look over you once in awhile. and if you really need help, just ask another nurse on another unit! they'll help you! =/ permission denied. another unit...??? i dont even know where the medicine bin is! GOODNESS!

the unit is chaos. the hospital is chaos. everyone is in the midst of chaos. the patients are crazier than the next, with kids cutting their wrist bleeding, and hitting the staff. The other, we just did several codes. I'm scared of the patients assaulting me here,, and sadly that's the least of my concerns for now.

i'm stressed out, i'm tired. this is not what i pictured it to be. any advice/ encouragement would be helpful.

i can easily say JUST LEAVE, but jobs are sooooo scarce in this part of the country. Half of my classmates didnt even find jobs yet. and i've waited a year and a half. sadly, i turned down 3 other interviews for this job and 2 wonderful without pay training programs. i regret it so much right now,i thought the real way of getting experience was just to get a job, and do it. no more holding your hands and guiding your, but this reality just too harsh. the sad part is, i am using zero nursing skills. i barely get a good glance at them before i have to start my charting for the day. there is nothing such as therapeutic communication or anything. its about making sure they don't kill themselves while on your care, and make sure you chart like crazy so you "cover your ass".

:eek:

Ummm ASAP get out of there. tell them thanks but no thanks. this is definitely not a job for new rn... Part of nursing is to listen to yourself when you sense a red flag.. and through what you said about the place is big red flag...be your own delegate and kindly tell them.. that while you are eager to take on a nursing role... you feel as if the position they have offered is beyond a new grad experience... and that you do not feel comfortable with this position.

Specializes in Ante-Intra-Postpartum, Post Gyne.

No job is worth never getting to work as an RN ever again. As everyone else has said....RUN. Just tell them that you were originally told you would get 12 days orient, that you do not feel that your responsibility is appropriate for a new grad nurse. You will be missing out on 5 days? Just don't put them down on your resume. Continue on applying for other jobs.

i just got a job offer at one of the top magnet hospitals in the country. i feel so blessed. its at a stepdown cardiac unit. =) bye bye psych, hellloooooooo new job :)

thanks all who gave me support and advice! i'mma quit soon hehee

She is getting out... read above.:)

Specializes in Oncology, Med/Surg.

I am so happy for you! I'm sure your new job will be better suited to you. Chalk your last job up as a learning experience........ yo've learned what you will accept and what you will not. Good luck to you nurse441!! I hope you keep us posted.

Specializes in Psych, Pediatrics, GI, Diabetes.

Congratulations!!!

I just got out of a similar situation like that - scarily similar, actually - I have 4 days left at that job, and then on to working at one of the best children's hospitals in the country, yay!!

Good luck to you!! :)

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