Sadistic CI? I need an opinion.

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The following is an attachment sent to my clinical group

by our clinical instructor. I find it sadistic and horribly inappropriate to set this kind of example, almost enough to report it to the head of the department (the semester has been over for a while, but it has been eating away at me). Do you think that I am overreacting?

Warning: this may offend.

Thanks in advance.

, sans-serif]What your nurse is really thinking:

, sans-serif]1. Don't tell me you have abdominal pain as you eat doritos in my triage booth.

, sans-serif]2. If you come to the ER by ambulance, the first thing I will ask you is how you are getting home. No, we don't have people on staff to drive you

, sans-serif]home, and don't tell me you don't want to "bother" one of your family members at this hour. You had no problem bothering 911 for the back pain

, sans-serif]you've had for 3 months.

, sans-serif]3. You don't get to pick your own IV site. This will irritate

, sans-serif]me and I will probably miss your IV on

, sans-serif]purpose and start your site in the place I wanted to initially to prove a point

, sans-serif]4. "Butterfly" is not an IV size, this word signals me to put in a larger bore needle.

, sans-serif]5. Nausea is not a reason to come to the ER. If you are not in severe pain, are not vomiting or pooping

, sans-serif]your pants in front of me, your butt goes back to the waiting room.

, sans-serif]6. How can you have the worst migraine of your life, but be able to yell at me about the wait after you just put down a magazine you were reading?

, sans-serif]7. Don't ever say things like, "I usually get 4 mg of Dilaudid". Requesting your med and dosage will prompt me to squirt out half of the med before I inject, then I lie about the dose.

, sans-serif]8. If you are allergic to Tylenol, Toradol, and Motrin, I have already assumed you are a drug seeker.

, sans-serif]9. If you came to the ER having a family doctor appointment that same day, I will make sure you are still in the department

, sans-serif]well past the time of

, sans-serif]your original appointment.

, sans-serif]10. I don't care if you are neighbors with the GI specialist. Unless he drove you to the ER himself, you can't be that friendly.

, sans-serif]11. Just because, "my doctor sent me here", does not mean you get right back to a treatment room. This tells me you are a pain in the ass, and

, sans-serif]he's pawning you off.

, sans-serif]12. The louder you moan/whine, the bigger size IV needle you get.

, sans-serif]13. Foley catheters cure pseudo-seizures. They also cure intoxicated persons.

, sans-serif]14. If you are on more than 2 medicines at home, bring a list. Don't say, "you know, the little white pill". I am not a pharmacist.

, sans-serif]15. RN is not synonymous with waiter/waitress.

, sans-serif]16. Don't ***** about missing breakfast when I'm on the ninth hour of my shift and haven't peed yet.

, sans-serif]17. What gives you the right to complain about your sore throat for a week while I have diarrhea from the antibiotics I've been taking for

, sans-serif]pneumonia?

, sans-serif]18. Broken toes are not an emergency. We'll make you feel stupid by putting a little piece of tape down there and kicking you out.

, sans-serif]19. I am currently inventing a trapdoor system in triage to be triggered when you say the word "toothache".

, sans-serif]20. Cover you mouth when you cough/belch. This is just common courtesy. When you neglect to do this, I am tempted to bust butt in your room, then

, sans-serif]close the door.

, sans-serif]21. If you tell me you have fibromyalgia or chronic fatigue syndrome, know that I'm rolling my eyes and thinking you're a loser.

, sans-serif]22. If you list Haldol, geodon, Xanax, and trazadone as allergies, don't tell me you have no psych history.

, sans-serif]23. Never sign in with chest pain because you were too embarrassed to write "penile sores" or "foul smelling discharge". This will **** me off

, sans-serif]that I bumped you ahead of other people and I'll make your visit horrific.

, sans-serif]24. Although you've been in the ER four times this week, you

, sans-serif]cannot list the ER doc as your family physician.

, sans-serif]25. Do not talk to me while I'm trying to listen to your lungs.

, sans-serif]26. Don't tell me you have no money for medicine while you have a carton of cigarettes in your purse (next to your cell phone), and each of your

, sans-serif]seven children are playing their own PSP's.

, sans-serif]27. Gravida 7 at age 22 means you are a ****.

I don't like anyone who forwards e-mail jokes to people, but that's what they were. Sadistic is a pretty strong term for someone who passes along something she thinks is funny. Those weren't near as funny (or as horribly wrong) as some of the things I've read - and I'm only a student too. I see it as an attempt to build camaraderie.

I think without appropriate discourse, the school setting is a little early to engage in this kind of humor, if this was meant to be humorous. Whether or not this was appropriate or handled in an appropriate manner is questionable. I would think that the CI's and students' time would have been better spent on other matters. If you feel strongly about this and how it was handled, then go ahead and complain to the Dean. You were present so you know the manner in which this was presented. If you were offended, chances are very high that you weren't the only student who thought this way.

Specializes in 5th Semester - Graduation Dec '09!.

My instructors would NEVER send this out to students!! It may be funny for some, but it is so inappropriate for a CI to be sending this to his/her clinical students.

I have had some instructors that have such a great sense of humor, and on some days you might get them going and crack a not-so-PC joke--but to send something over official communication, such as email, would never happen. It's just not very professional.

Specializes in L&D.

I admit it, I think it's hilarious and am going to copy it over to my blog for when I need a pick-me-up. If you don't find it funny, that's okay, but I will say that if finding your patients to be ridiculous at times makes you sadistic then I'm sadistic, too. In my experience, patients really are just silly sometimes and it can get really frustrating to have your day filled with absurd complaints and requests. I'm not a maid, I'm not the patient's mommy there to cut their meat and chew it for them. I'm there to help them get better and do the best I can to improve their health and function to the highest level I can get it. That said, it's okay if that type of sarcastic humor isn't funny to you, just as IMO it's fine that this is very funny to other people. It's just one form of blowing off steam, which we all need at times.

I think it was funny, and meant to give new students a laugh and loosen them up a little. I will copy it and place it on the bullitin board at school even though we are graduating next month.

At the least, this instructor has a sense of humor and will probably be easier to work with than some by the book stick-in-the-mud who never laughs at themselves or anything else.

I really don't think your CI meant any harm here. This was clearly to get all of you to chuckle and not at all meant to offend. If she were teaching these things it would be an issue but I'm sure you will soon see this was nothing more than a joke and done for some giggles.

Specializes in ER.

Your instructor found that on this site. I believe I read the exact same thing her, within the last week.

Specializes in C-EFM, L&D/Postpartum/AP/PACU.

I am not yet a nurse, so you can weigh my opinion as you see fit. I do have extensive experience with separating comments that are appropriate in the context of peer conversation/venting and those that are appropriate to share with trainees or noobs.

IMO, this is not appropriate for an instructor to share with students. I am certain you are not the only student wondering if this nurse would be inclined to actually pop in a larger bore needle when she is ******. I would never want my students wondering about my ethics because of a poorly considered joke.

OTOH, I don't know that I'd report her. Since the semester is over and presumably you will not have to deal with this instructor anymore, you might just stop by to see her in person. Ask her about the e-mail and see what her intent was. I wouldn't whine about it or necessarily use the word inappropriate, but I might tell her that you felt a little uncomfortable about it because you weren't sure what the intended message was and you wondered if the younger students might take it seriously.

She may surprise you with her response and hopefully she will respect the fact that you didn't tattle on her, but had the guts to come straight to her for clarification.

Specializes in Emergency, ICU.
Thanks for your reply, VivaLasViejas,

I can understand veteran nurses joking around with each other like this (although I still find it inappropriate and extremely disrespectful to the patients, and pray that I never get that bitter), but sending something like this students who are learning the "ropes" -- I still find it dead wrong.

Ahhh, the bliss of academic utopia....

Just wait until you start a real job!

I promise, after 3 months of nursing, you'll get this humor and will enjoy it as a well-deserved release.

And from an ED perspective, this is SO funny because it is a social comment and borders on the truth :chuckle

Specializes in Telemetry/Med Surg.

I think it's funny...............

Specializes in LTC, Psych.

Loosen up a bit, sounds like it was meant in good fun. I'd rather have my instructor like that than all uppity.

Maybe this is what happened to some of those mean instructors we all complain about......they started off sharing jokes with students and being cool......then some student gets ticked off, goes to the dean, and gets said instructor reamed out. Yea, you can bet my sweet bahtootey that would be the last time I ever relaxed around my students and my clinical site would be run like boot camp.

Something to think about.

I'm sure she was just trying to be funny, and maybe try to be "friends" with her students rather than just a strict instructor, which is nice.

But I can definitely see why you questioned it. Many of those I found funny, but I also found many of those offensive. Not necessarily to myself, but to patients. I'm a student too, and parts of this email seem to go directly against what we're being taught right now... "Be a good nurse! Don't judge your patients! If they say they're in pain, they're in pain! Med errors are unacceptable!" It's a little frustrating to know that nurses are thinking the same things we are, while we're being made to feel like we're terrible people for it and we'll never be a good nurse because of it. I guess we just have to keep in mind that we'll be in their place soon! (and we'll be great nurses too! :D)

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