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Any male nurse's out there??????????

Specializes in NICU, Psych, Med/Onc,Ped Home Health.

*raises beer in the air* to all the guy nurses out there giving it their 100% day in and day out, this one's for you!

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Specializes in Psych, Medical Surgical, Leadership,Culture.

Yes, I am an RN and male

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Specializes in Oncology, ID, Hepatology, Occy Health.

Another one here. Nurse for 23 years and male all my life!

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Specializes in Psych, Medical Surgical, Leadership,Culture.
Another one here. Nurse for 23 years and male all my life!

Greetings DavidFR from Ohio USA. I looked at your Bio. What is an english nurse doing in france. I am very interested in nursing practice in other countries. Where did you obtain your nursng education? I hope to establish you as a potential forum pal to discuess nursing if you are willing

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Specializes in Oncology, ID, Hepatology, Occy Health.
Greetings DavidFR from Ohio USA. I looked at your Bio. What is an english nurse doing in france. I am very interested in nursing practice in other countries. Where did you obtain your nursng education? I hope to establish you as a potential forum pal to discuess nursing if you are willing

Greetings Miles!

I did my nurse education in the UK. I came to France 8 years ago - initially for 6 six months to improve my French and get to know the country better, having always been a francophile. 8 years later I'm still here, which should tell you how much I like it here. Movement of workers within the EU is not so uncommon now, since various treaties gave us the right to live and work in whichever member state. The is a reciprocal recognition of nursung quaifications and the only further requirement here is that you do speak fluent French. That said, not so many of us British nurses here but you'll more frequently come accross Spanish and Danish and increasingly those from the newer eastern member states. The French nursng workforce does however remain predominantly French, which is only normal I guess.

Happy to answer your questions and discuss whatever!

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Specializes in Psych, Medical Surgical, Leadership,Culture.

Hi David, thanks alot for the return post. Tell me what is your scope of practice as a RN in France? Additionally, what was your educational prep in the UK did you complete a Diploma of Higher Ed or a BS in nursing? What about the pay is it good, average or low. Thanks MilesRN

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Specializes in Oncology, ID, Hepatology, Occy Health.
Hi David, thanks alot for the return post. Tell me what is your scope of practice as a RN in France?

Your question's pretty broad so I'll answer the best I can!

On a technical level it's pretty broad: meds via all routes, cannulation, blood taking - by venepuncture, from central catheters and arterial blood gases, ECGs, catheterisation, NG tubes, dressings, as well as the basic hygiene and comfort care. Dialysis and theatre are considered to be specialist areas usually with further training involved, nurse anaesthetists being very common here. Ironically, unlike in Britain, ICU, CCU, HDU, paediatrics, mental handicap and psych are considered "general" and most registered nurses feel polyvalent enough to work in those areas without a specialist qualification. They have usually always covered them in their training.

Nursing assessment is limited compared to the UK. Care plans, nursing models, all the trends we lived through there never hit here. French nurses are very task orientated - make a list, tick it off when you've done it. I personally prefer that - we had a lot of wordy BS in the UK.

Training here is 3 and a half years, at a school of nursing with placements in hospitals/clinics etc. University education hasn't really kicked in here. There are moves to introduce an LMD programme (LMD = license, maîtrise, doctorat i.e. bachelors, masters, doctorate) which is meeting opposition from the (conservative) government who know thay'll have to pay higher salaries to graduates.

Extended rôles are limited. In the UK I was a clinical nurse specialst with my own nurse consultations and outreach work - such rôles are in their infancy here but the "infirmier réferent" is becoming more visible, and the idea of nurse consultation is becoming a reality. Nurse prescribing, well established in the UK, doesn't exist here yet.

Additionally, what was your educational prep in the UK

In the 1980s it was 3 years 3 months at a school of nursing attached to a hospital. Very much a practical based apprebticeship style training.

did you complete a Diploma of Higher Ed or a BS in nursing?

When they introduced degree level training, oldies like me had to catch up or face being "stuck" in their current jobs, since the new requirement for any job was now a degree. You could do a degree in nursing studies OR something related, hence I did a BSc(Hons) in Health Studies. By the 90s all the senior/interesting jobs required a masters, so I did an MSc in Medical Sociology, which was very applicable to the client group I had as a CNS (Hep. B & C)

What about the pay is it good, average or low. Thanks MilesRN

Variable between different establishments. Exchange rates can skew the reaity of things. When I first came here French salaries seemed low compared to Britain, but now the British pound has lost value, it's the British salaries that look poor when you make the comparison. Newly qualifieds have a pretty average salary. As time goes on it improves, and even when you change establishments, it's normal here for a new employer to respect your seniority salary wise. For example, I changed job in April, but having been qualified since 1986, my new employer automatically put me on the top salary band. Like anywhere, there are good deals to be had in the private sector and industry, and rip-off clinics paying nothing. I'd say in general nurses pay here is average, neither good nor bad.

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Specializes in Psych, Medical Surgical, Leadership,Culture.

Here in the US there are generally four (4) tracks for entry into practice. The LPN (licensed Practical Nurses, requires 1 year of educational preparation), 2) 3 year diploma (very few programs remain), 3) two year Associate Degree in Nursing (Technical College training) (Most nurses are trained in the Associate degree format) and (4) the BSN, Bachelor of Science in Nursing provided by Colleges of Nursing or Universities. There are advanced levels of education. The Master of Science in Nursing, the terminal degree of the Doctor of Nursing Practice and the PhD (Doctor of Philosophy in Nursing). The Master of Science offers many specializations, Nursing and Health Administration, Nursing Education, and Clinical Advanced Practice.

The PhD is an academic degree and the DNP is a practice doctorate.

My educational preparation includes first the RN Diploma, the Bachelor of Science in Nursing and lastly I have a Master of Science in Nursing with specialization of Nursing Education. I am beginning the PhD in Nursing in August.

The LPN is very limited in scope and practice. They are permitted to administer medications, perform treatments, and provide basic nursing care. They practice under the direction of the Registered Nurse and cannot formulate plans of care, administer IV push medications, initiate basic IV therapy, but no blood or complex IV fluids. This level of training and practice is become obsolete due to their limited education and scope of practice. Most hospitals no longer will hire them. Most LPN work in physician's office or Long Term Care facilitiies (nursing homes). The university BSN is becoming the preferred method of study for entry into practice. All nursing Registered Nursing education programs prepare the graduate to practice general nursing in any area, medical-surgical, ICU, Emergency, Psychiatric, Surgery, etc. Additionally, we formualte plans of care, administer medications, manage groups of patients, perform any treatment, yet all require a physican's order to perform. I find it interesting there are 3 educational methods for entry into practice yet we all take the same licensing boards.

We do have advanced practice for nurses. There are 3 choices, the Clinical Specialist and the Nurse Practitioner and Nurse Anesthetist. There is not much difference in practice for these advanced practice nurses. Both are permitted to treat clients, diagnose disease, prescribe medications and treat. However the Nurse Practitioner is preferred and offers the most automny in practice. These require a Master of Science in Nursing and after graduating must take a certification exam to practice. However, the educational preparation is changing and will require the practice doctorate DNP (Doctor of Nursing Practice) by 2015.

The pay for nurses in the US is very good. The general registered nurse average starting pay is $47, 000 per year and can reach up to 60 to 75 K. However, if one choses to travel one can earn up to $100,000 per year. Advanced practice as a Nurse Anesthetist pays best. The average pay is about $150,000 to $200,000.

I am excited to share information about nursing practice. Thanks so much and I hope to share more information in the future.

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Just checking in here.. not a nurse yet but submitting my application within a month and if all goes as planned, I'll be starting the program next fall. I'm definitely looking forward to it!

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Any male nurse's out there??????????

miwukman here here. LVN in a BS/RN upgrade with the University of Phoeniz.

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Hey guys hows it going great to be with other guys in the same proffession.

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Specializes in Orthopaedics.

Here I am.

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