Once you have completed your CMA requirments, have you found that your credits from the MA courses you took transfer to an ADN program or BSN program ? I really hope so. My freind that is an MA, bless her heart (one of the sweetest people you will ever meet), wants to go to school for her RN. I work with an CMA , who told me she went to a 11 month program , became certified and when she went to apply at an ADN programe they told her that none of the credits would transfer. She said she left in tears. She said she felt like she had been robbed. That it even sent her into a depression for a while. I hope this isn't true. My friend worked so hard ,payed a good sum of money, but has already found that the pay isn't what they had told her. I guess, I want to be prepared to be there for her if she faces the same difficulties. I like the CMA I work with but, I have to tell you , I hope she did somthing wrong. I really don't want my freind to go through this.
Even at community colleges the MA courses often don't transfer because they are no where near the level needed. So even though these students take "A&P" and perhaps "micro", it isn't the same. It is like the nursing students comparing their chemistry to med students chem. As a general rule, it isn't the same. The schools need to be held accountable for their lies to these students.
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That's really scarey to me. Why go to school at all, just let the physician teach a tech what they want.
Please no. I had a P.A. who was always getting doses wrong on admission or telephone orders. I finally asked him where he did his training at, since they were only certified back then. He never went to school. He got all his 'learning' from the physician he worked for. Needless to say, I never took another order from him. And on cue, neither did any other nurse.
Even at community colleges the MA courses often don't transfer because they are no where near the level needed. So even though these students take "A&P" and perhaps "micro", it isn't the same. It is like the nursing students comparing their chemistry to med students chem. As a general rule, it isn't the same. The schools need to be held accountable for their lies to these students.
I went to a community college and I took A&P with nursing students. My MA a 2 year associates program didn't require Micro. All my credits (A&P,english, speech, bio's psych. soc.) transferred to another school for nursing (started Aug. 20). Also we were taught that we were not nurses and not to call ourselves nurses:nono:. All the colleges in my area have articulation (transfer) agreements with other nearby schools, you can ask for a copy from the school you want to attend.
Specializes in icu, er, transplant, case management, ps.
I went to a community college and I took A&P with nursing students. My MA a 2 year associates program didn't require Micro. All my credits (A&P,english, speech, bio's psych. soc.) transferred to another school for nursing (started Aug. 20). Also we were taught that we were not nurses and not to call ourselves nurses:nono:. All the colleges in my area have articulation (transfer) agreements with other nearby schools, you can ask for a copy from the school you want to attend.
Your credits are transferable because the one college has an agreement with the other. They have investigate course content and have reach a decision that it is compatible with their courses. I attended USC for one year. All of my credits were transferable to a four year university in NYC. I have 22 credits from Sage College graduate nursing program but the University of South Florida will accept only six of them. It is not because the college courses are not equal, they just will not allow the transfer of more then six credits.
Please no. I had a P.A. who was always getting doses wrong on admission or telephone orders. I finally asked him where he did his training at, since they were only certified back then. He never went to school. He got all his 'learning' from the physician he worked for. Needless to say, I never took another order from him. And on cue, neither did any other nurse.
Woody:balloons:
I know isn't that a scary thought. Some times I'm amazed at the things Dr's don't kown. But then, sometimes I'm amazed at the things nurses don't kown. (including me some days). Can you imagine being a pt. in urologist office, all preped for a bladder BX and in walks an MA. Sounds like a skit for Satuday Night Live. But form what ma 's say , as long as the Dr trains them it seems to be ok with most of them. (except in california , where they have a scope of practice)
I worked with an LPN who was the Nurse for a nephrologist and she refused to take BP's on his pt's. Ya never know who is going to walk through that door.
Specializes in icu, er, transplant, case management, ps.
I know isn't that a scary thought. Some times I'm amazed at the things Dr's don't kown. But then, sometimes I'm amazed at the things nurses don't kown. (including me some days). Can you imagine being a pt. in urologist office, all preped for a bladder BX and in walks an MA. Sounds like a skit for Satuday Night Live. But form what ma 's say , as long as the Dr trains them it seems to be ok with most of them. (except in california , where they have a scope of practice)
It is a major reason why I ask the qualifications of anyone who comes in to see me, beside the doctor or nurse practitioner. If they are not licensed personnel, I refused to be monitored by them. So far, it hasn't placed me in any harmful situations.
I was with a chronic pain, chem dept pt who had taken a serious fall. A patient that at first I thought, oh boy, as it turned out she was a gem. It was her partner who demanded to know my qualifications and was pretty intense. I gladly gave him my credentials and before long had him eating out of my hand. Ahhhhh he brought me a box of chocolates at Christmas time. Which I of course shared with my co-workers.
Specializes in icu, er, transplant, case management, ps.
In resonse to Woody62,
I was with a chronic pain, chem dept pt who had taken a serious fall. A patient that at first I thought, oh boy, as it turned out she was a gem. It was her partner who demanded to know my qualifications and was pretty intense. I gladly gave him my credentials and before long had him eating out of my hand. Ahhhhh he brought me a box of chocolates at Christmas time. Which I of course shared with my co-workers.
Until I moved to Florida, in 1980, I never had to worry if the person assisting the doctor was a licensed nurse or a certified P.A. It was only here that I found out how free and easy this state is about their certifying and licensing people. They may require finger prints today. And they may require criminal background checks but they don't keep a very close eye on a lot of their licensed or certified people. They are more impressed with their charges then they are with qualifications.
If I sound down on Florida, I am. I have never been impressed with the education system or the health care system, in this state. Until 2000, I was a licensed nurse, here. Now if I want to reactivate my Florida license, I have to pay $204, submit an entirely new application, submit new board scores, submit to a finger print screen and new background check. I don't have a problem with the finger prints or criminal background check. It is everything else I object to. They all ready have all the information. I guess Florida isn't that hard up for R.N.'s just yet.
EricJRN, MSN, RN
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Even the CMA (from any program) and the uncertified MA can generally perform the same skills/duties as long as the physician allows it.