Once you have completed your CMA requirments, have you found that your credits from the MA courses you took transfer to an ADN program or BSN program ? I really hope so. My freind that is an MA, bless her heart (one of the sweetest people you will ever meet), wants to go to school for her RN. I work with an CMA , who told me she went to a 11 month program , became certified and when she went to apply at an ADN programe they told her that none of the credits would transfer. She said she left in tears. She said she felt like she had been robbed. That it even sent her into a depression for a while. I hope this isn't true. My friend worked so hard ,payed a good sum of money, but has already found that the pay isn't what they had told her. I guess, I want to be prepared to be there for her if she faces the same difficulties. I like the CMA I work with but, I have to tell you , I hope she did somthing wrong. I really don't want my freind to go through this.
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I attended an MA program at a vocational school about 7 years ago, and the credits earned are not transferrable, as the educational institution was not regionally accredited. The school was approved by the state to operate and grant diplomas and certifications, but not accredited by a legitimate entity.
Most people do not realize that a state's Department of Education can give programs the right to issue diplomas and certificates but the programs may not be nationally accredited. A few years ago there was a discussion that NLN accreditation was not worth the effort programs have to make to be NLN approved. And a number of nurses supported this position. NLN accreditation puts a great deal of pressure on a program to meet for their accreditation. And what they have to meet is much higher then a state's accreditation.
Hudson Valley may be in the minority but they didn't bow to student pressure to lessen their requirements or less their clinical time. And HVCC has one of the highest passing rate for state boards, which can't be said for programs that have their students do all their co- requisites as prerequisites. There are six two year programs in my present area. And none of them have one of the best passing rates in Florida. So what have they solved except to bow to students complaints that doing a two year program in two years is just too much for them.
Woody:balloons:
Hmm, I don't know which is better, but with the increased degree requirements 3 years works and it is literally only 1 year to complete a BSN for us after our program. Both situations have their high and low points, the point is that the length of time used to complete a ADN for most community colleges is no longer actually 2 years so the comparison of a CMA 2 year degree still wouldn't work. (for various other reasons as well).
Specializes in icu, er, transplant, case management, ps.
Hmm, I don't know which is better, but with the increased degree requirements 3 years works and it is literally only 1 year to complete a BSN for us after our program. Both situations have their high and low points, the point is that the length of time used to complete a ADN for most community colleges is no longer actually 2 years so the comparison of a CMA 2 year degree still wouldn't work. (for various other reasons as well).
I am sorry but I don't understand your comment. Mine is that although the programs in my area of Florida have made many of the requisites, prerequisites, they don't seem to have improved their passing rates much for licensing. But the program that I graduated from continues to have corequistes and have maintained it's high passing rates for licenses. Kind of puts a kink in two year programs be made more difficult by making them three year programs.
I am sorry but I don't understand your comment. Mine is that although the programs in my area of Florida have made many of the requisites, prerequisites, they don't seem to have improved their passing rates much for licensing. But the program that I graduated from continues to have corequistes and have maintained it's high passing rates for licenses. Kind of puts a kink in two year programs be made more difficult by making them three year programs.
Or am I just misunderstanding your comment?
Woody:balloons:
I'm saying that the ever more popular 3 year time-frame for an ADN seems to be working and has its benefits (shorter time to a BSN, and more classes to round out your education). There are obvious benefits to completing a program in 2 years also. Either way works, but schools have mostly increased their program length. My point is that it is 3 full time years in many cases now, which is a far cry from MA education even if they chose to get an associates degree.
My friend said it again , this past week end . Said she contacted the MA school , they told her that her credits woudl transfer to Capital University in Ohio. That is a BSN program, very competative. I just can't imagine that. Part of me wants to call Capital and pose as an MA and ask if credits will transfer. I hope she's right but,,,,,,my gut tells me she's in for an unfortunate disapoitment. :chair:
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Most people do not realize that a state's Department of Education can give programs the right to issue diplomas and certificates but the programs may not be nationally accredited. A few years ago there was a discussion that NLN accreditation was not worth the effort programs have to make to be NLN approved. And a number of nurses supported this position. NLN accreditation puts a great deal of pressure on a program to meet for their accreditation. And what they have to meet is much higher then a state's accreditation.
Woody:balloons: