Published Dec 11, 2016
Mister T
2 Posts
I know... Another thread like this... But I have specific needs:
no chemistry
no statistics
cheap
if i decide on continuing for msn i will still get my bsn (sounds weird but some schools do not give the bsn if you are in msn program)
i am re-starting this thread because many of them are 5 or more years old...
any help?
TheCommuter, BSN, RN
102 Articles; 27,612 Posts
There are online RN-to-BSN completion programs that require no chemistry or statistics coursework, but they are not cheap (e.g., Oklahoma Wesleyan University).
There are online RN-to-BSN completion programs that are cheap, but they all require either chemistry or statistics (e.g. Fort Hays State Univ @ $186/credit).
In other words, pick your poison. Good luck to you!
DeLynn, RN
190 Posts
Capella University-no specific math or science courses. Doesn't matter which classes they are, as long as you have enough credits in either math or science to fulfil the math/science "core". Program is $2500 every 12 weeks.
amanban
6 Posts
Aspen University does not require stats or chemistry--only ten classes required. They have a payment plan of $250 a month.
meanmaryjean, DNP, RN
7,899 Posts
Be aware that NOT having stats or chem might keep you from getting into an MSN program. Bite the bullet- millions of nurses have put in the necessary work to pass these two courses- you can too.
Buyer beware, BSN
1,139 Posts
Saying you don't do statistics and chemistry reminds me of the Woody Harrelson line in "Doc Hollywood" where he tells the lead character "I could have been a doctor if it weren't for the science part, you know."
OP: these courses, no matter what anybody thinks of their value, are "right-of-passage" subjects. And yes, they do come in handy in ways that may not be seem apparent when taking them but only later on.
The not so funny thing is even the crappiest of loan mill schools require them for the few that do graduate
The fact that Capella and Aspen don't may just be the definition of what some people refer to as diploma mills.
But that's for them to explain because it is an outlier approach to nusing academics despite their sterling accreditation.
Go figure?
featherzRN, MSN
1,012 Posts
Aspen does not have regional accreditation, which is necessary for some 'pickier' jobs (like my previous federal job). A reason for that may be that they do not require certain classes. Stats is not so bad, and the class in my BSN program had very little (if any) actual math. You just needed to learn the concepts.
HouTx, BSN, MSN, EdD
9,051 Posts
If you're interested in advancing your education with a graduate degree, I wouldn't advise pursuing a BSN from a school that is not regionally accredited. This would severely limit your options to those diploma mills that have generic MSNs.
Nursing is a health science profession. The basic competencies for BSN grads include the ability to interpret & contribute to nursing research... not possible without at least a basic understanding of statistics. Likewise, it's not really possible to attain a deep understanding human physiology without knowledge of chemistry. I understand that these subjects are challenging, but they're not frivolous or irrelevant.
I appreciate all the input. The statistics thing would not be so bad as I am sure I could take it online. My ADN program worked bio-chemistry into A&P so I feel I got what I needed. The deal is I am 52 and do not want to have to go back to campus for lecture and lab. If I found a program where I could take an online chem class that would be pretty cool. My end game is not FNP. If I did get my masters it would be in education and I would teach.
The online schools have 'online' chemistry/biochem. I know at least WGU has no lab at all for biochem. You would not have to go anywhere. WGU does have lab kits they send if you had to take micro or anatomy tho. Fun doing those at home lol.
mmc51264, BSN, MSN, RN
3,308 Posts
I didn't need either but then I had a BS in Biology. Chem is not that bad and statistics is kind of important, especially if you ever want to go on. I had to take more statistics for my MSN. I took a basic statistics course in Bio undergrad and then quantitative and qualitative for my masters in teaching (an MA). YOu might as well go to comm college and get them done there were they are cheaper and then the RN-BSN is that much easier.