Retrogression Is Not Over

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I am sure that many of you do not want to hear this. But it is the actual truth. There still is no special schedule for nurses, and the Schedule A is not included in the Visa Bulletin.

That the dates are current for the month of July does not state that it is over. There is a huge number of applicants waiting for the green card, in addition to nurses, and they have been waiting as well. Remember that most that came to the US under the H1-B visa, are also included with the EB-3 caseload. And many of their attorneys are much faster at getting things done. Example: When the window opened for petitions to be submitted in April for the October 2007 H1-B visas, there were more than a 150,000 submitted in less than one day. And they were gone.

Not trying to burst any bubble, but trying to be honest on this. There are only so many visas available per year, never unlimited number. And this Bulletin does not go into effect until July 1, 2007. And those dates are only for that month and if you notice there is also mention that if the visas get used up that are there, then the dates will not remain in effect all month.

For those of you that got stopped in the processing just before your interview, this will be very beneficial for you. If your DS-230 has been approved and accepted, then this can be beneficial to you. For those that are just starting the process, remember you at the mercy of your agency and attorney and how fast that they will do things. We have seen multiple posts over the years of mistakes made with petitions that delayed things for quite a period of time. There is also a considerable raise in immigration fees going into affect at the end of July that will delay things for some people as the agencies are going to be holding back on paying of fees.

Those that have been paying their own way will find that they may get thru faster.

So please, do not make final plans to leave for the US until you actually have an interview date given to you. We saw what happened last fall to quite a few of you here.

Until there is another Schedule in place for nurses, the retrogression will not be over. Just an open window in the scheme of things, but definitely not over. Look at what happened even last month when the dates were moved up for the PD, you did not see a significant movement of anything. When money is needed to be paid by the agencies, everything drops to a crawl.

Thanks Silverdragon and Suzanne for clarifying my mind, that is the way I like things, direct and clear.

I get the retrogression idea, but There is one thing I didnt understand Silverdragon. The files are processed in Nebraska and then in Texas (or theyre in Nebraska or Texas). And the waiting time in the NVC for the visa is...how many months average?

Thank you

kisses

JM

You do not have a choice as to where the file goes to, the USCIS decides that. They are processed in both centers for the I-140, and that is the only step that is not under the retrogression. Everything beyond that is.

The waiting time on average, when there is no retrogression, is about 18 months. That is from when the I-140 is submitted until the nurse is actually in the US and ready to begin work. Nothing is instant.

hello ms. suzanne and silverdragon, you mean that this oct the visas will be current? they said it will be availabe this oct, so the visa bulletin will be current then?

thanks

Is it possbile to have an IV interview schedule for October even if the Oct vb is not yet out? I came across to this forum and a person from Pakistan recieved an interivew date through CP for Oct.

Seriously doubt it, we are already seeing interviews for August cancelled, and even some cancelled for the last week of July. We do not know when visas will actually be available for sure, and doubt if immigration is already setting up appts for October. We know that some visas will be available then, but have no idea as to how they are going to decide where they go at this point. Remember that the US has had to accept I-485 petitions when there have been no visas available, so that will also play a part.

Have never seen an interview scheduled three months in advance, have not seen it in the past, and do not expect to see it in the future. And especially from that country currently, they are on a special list for even more thorough checking before being issued a green card.

good for those who will be going AOS, they will be accepted again this oct?

bad for those will be going thru CP, bad for US

hello ms. suzanne and silverdragon, you mean that this oct the visas will be current? they said it will be availabe this oct, so the visa bulletin will be current then?

thanks

No, that is not correct. They have stated that there will be new visas available in October with the start of the new fiscal year, but where they will be assigned to, no one knows.

And since they were forced to accept I-485 petitions now when there are no visas available, do not expect that to become current in October at all. Especially if there was not already a PD date from some time ago. The Visa Bulletin will not be current in all areas for sometime. There are way too many applicants for a limited number of visas. And I do expect some type of restriction to be placed on those that wish to go thru the AOS process from the B1/B2 visa. It is in violation of US immigtration law to have dual intent, and expect this actual law to be strictly enforced, especially with the number of people that have been waiting for a visa.

Do not count on anything being current in October, if anything, only expect those that have had their interviews cancelled this past week or two to have a chance. But again, that will depend on the retrogression and where they are from. Still most definitely expecting some type of retrogression to remain in effect. Number that want the green card far exceeds the number that are available in any one year.

And to clarify this even further:

There has never been any mention that the retrogression would be over in October, only that new visas would become available. They are two completely different things. There are many that are waiting that have PD dates from 2005 at this point, so do not expect anything to be considered current for some time. And even more so for those from the PIC countries and Mexico. Number of applicants far outweighs the nuimber of visas available. And with the larger influx of students, expect it to get even worse. Not better.

And what was posted by US State Dept was before they were forced to accept petitions. That changes everything even more so.

I do not have an agenda for trying to make these things up. I do not get paid for helping anyone. Just giving an honest opinion and trying to save some of you from getting hurt by getting bad advice.

Same way that around July 17th when I came out with my statement that USCIS would not accept petitions after August 1st, there were a few that were fast to jump on my and argue. And guess what, USCIS issued their statement the other day, just as I had expected: They would not accept the I-485 in August if the person did not already have a PD date before August 1st. They would accept it only if the I-140 was submitted in July, not later.

So this puts a halt to those that thought that they could slide in under the wire. They got their wings cut. Those that did not want to listen and thought that they would fly to the US and sneak thru just got burnt and bad.

wow! that is very enlightening ms.suzanne. listen everyone, she just spoke what is the truth and reality. thank you so much!

And to clarify this even further:

There has never been any mention that the retrogression would be over in October, only that new visas would become available. They are two completely different things. There are many that are waiting that have PD dates from 2005 at this point, so do not expect anything to be considered current for some time. And even more so for those from the PIC countries and Mexico. Number of applicants far outweighs the nuimber of visas available. And with the larger influx of students, expect it to get even worse. Not better.

And what was posted by US State Dept was before they were forced to accept petitions. That changes everything even more so.

I do not have an agenda for trying to make these things up. I do not get paid for helping anyone. Just giving an honest opinion and trying to save some of you from getting hurt by getting bad advice.

Same way that around July 17th when I came out with my statement that USCIS would not accept petitions after August 1st, there were a few that were fast to jump on my and argue. And guess what, USCIS issued their statement the other day, just as I had expected: They would not accept the I-485 in August if the person did not already have a PD date before August 1st. They would accept it only if the I-140 was submitted in July, not later.

So this puts a halt to those that thought that they could slide in under the wire. They got their wings cut. Those that did not want to listen and thought that they would fly to the US and sneak thru just got burnt and bad.

when you mentioned the above bold, italic letters about quite sometime, does that mean the end of the year? or worst next year?

Thank you!

Just as I say to use common sense when preparing for the NCLEX exam and just throw in the ABCs to the equation; you just need to use common sense for anyone that is trying to figure out what will be happening as far as immigration. It is exactly what I have done, and I have been proven correct much more time than not.

There are only x-number of visas available per year.

There is no separate schedule for RNs at this time and there has not been any since the February Visa Bulletin went into effect.

Last year we had expected the retrogression to affect only those from PIC countries as well as Mexico, but then all were included. No matter where they were born.

Currently, all RNs are included under the EB-3 category, and that means that almost all that are in the US under the H1-B visa are also under this category if they are in the process of being petitioned for the green card.

The number of applicants far exceeds the number of visas available for those from the PIC countries as well as Mexico. Definitely expect the retrogression to continue for those countries for sometime in most cases.

There are more applicants alone from Philippines than there are total number of visas available for the entire world. And then you add in how many are now in school there, and many for the sole purpose of getting the green card. They could care less about nursing.

Hope that this sums it up very clearly.

Even retrogation is not over, my agent got the visa fee receipt and paid the visa fee. So can we expect the DS230 packet soon. EB3- nurse-My priority date is apr-2006. So any hope now. pls let me know.

Even retrogation is not over, my agent got the visa fee receipt and paid the visa fee. So can we expect the DS230 packet soon. EB3- nurse-My priority date is apr-2006. So any hope now. pls let me know.

good news. your agent has got visa fee receipt.if you dont mind can i ask name of your agency.p m to me.

regards

Even retrogation is not over, my agent got the visa fee receipt and paid the visa fee. So can we expect the DS230 packet soon. EB3- nurse-My priority date is apr-2006. So any hope now. pls let me know.

All nurses are under EB-3. That is the only category.

If NVC is asking for payment, then your file is open. But that still means that the DS-230 needs to be submitted and then approved.

Again, there are no visas currently available and we do not know when they are going to open for all.

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