Received an "F" for a "B"!

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Specializes in M/S/Ortho/Bari/ED.

If anyone out there can offer me some advice, I'd be so grateful. I am in an accelerated second degree AAS program at a University in VA which I will not name.

I and 3 other students are currently battling the nursing department over "F" grades we received despite the fact that no on got less than a C+ in a class that ended July 31st. The reason for this is because the 4 of us did not obtain a 90% or higher by the third attempt at a 10 question dosage calculations quiz. Mind you the calculation of dosages is not taught at our school, it is considered the students responsibility to learn it themselves.

I don't understand how my overall grade of 85% can be reflected on my transcript as a "F" because of one dosage calculations quiz, which I got an 80% on. The four of us tried reasoning with the nursing staff and they basically told us tough cookies and see you next semester at a private Catholic school that costs $600 per credit! Additionally, our school has a policy where you get kicked out if you have to repeat more than 8 nursing credits.

Am I wrong to believe that this action taken was harsh and unfair? Is this just the nature of the nursing beast, or do I have a legitimate right to fight this. I sent emails to the dean and the grievance committee, but no one has responded. It has been 3 weeks.

Please help. I am ready to break down and quit, as I can't cry anymore than I already have. The callousness and cold-hearted nastiness of these ladies is absolutely mind-boggling to me.

Can anyone help?

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That is usually the way it goes. Most schools, actually all that I know of have the rule that you must score a 90 or above on the drug cal test each year, otherwise you are out.

I am VERY sorry. I hope something will work out for you.

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Sorry to hear about your situation. It is not uncommon for nursing programs to require students to pass a dosage calculation exam with a specific percentile grade in order to pass the course. Typically a student is allowed a predetermined number of retakes (between 2 and 3) before they fail the nursing course.

Nursing programs can have whatever policies they wish for promotion, retention, and graduation, but these policies must be published and made available to students before the course begins.

You always have the right to grieve, according to the published grievance policy. However, if the policy was clearly published and made available to you at the begining of the course it is unlikely you would win the grievance.

It is unfortunate that no one responded to your emails, but it may be that they only respond to inquires made via the steps of the published grievance policy.

I know this response may not be what you wanted to hear, but hopefully it answers some of your questions.

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I'm sorry you're having such an upsetting experience. At both nursing schools I attended (one state school and one private women's college, both in upstate NY), the policies were identical to what you've described. It's disappointing though, that your school didn't offer or suggest a tutor for you (I worked for both schools as a peer tutor for students who needed to retake med exams).

Even if you had to pay for your own tutor, I think it would be a worth it- once it 'clicks', the concepts are cemented in your mind forever.

Also, every hospital I've worked in required a 90% or better on their own med exams before any newly hired RN could pass meds.

Don't give up, though- you WILL get it. Do practice questions until you see them in your sleep. Above all, have faith in yourself- you can do this.

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Perhaps you should follow up your emails with written correspondence. Most schools require submission of written grievances (with with your signature). That could be why you've not received a reply.

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At my school, they did teach dosage calculations. However, the dosage calculation test that we take is 10 questions and has to be passed with 100%. You have three trys and if you don't pass, you have to sit out a semester and retake the test when it is given at the end of the NEXT semester.

So I guess what I am saying is that it is kind of the nature of the nursing beast, like you asked.

Sorry, I know that is not the answer you were looking for.

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when i was in nursing school, at the first day of our class, our instructor made it very clear about grading policy. she told us that the passing grade for drug calculaton is 90% and we have 3 attempt to score 90%. if we do not receive 90% on our third attempt, then we cannot go to our clinicals, therefore the grade for the class is failure. same with clinicals. clinical grade is based on pass/failure and even if we have 90% in lecture test, if a student receives failure grade in clinicals then the student have failed the entire class. and this policy was written in black and white in our course syllabus. did your instructor write this in your syllabus? did your instructor explain to you on the first day of class? if its not written in black and white in syllabus and if your instructor didnt explain it to you in the first day of class, then i dont think she has a right to fail students for it. so you might want to bring it up to the dean of nursing, or the nursing committes. best of luck to you....:icon_hug:

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Sorry to say our school has a required passing of dosage calculations exams every semester passing = 90% or better, we get three attempts as well.

:(

Tracy

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Specializes in Trauma ICU, MICU/SICU.

Sorry, but that is nursing school... The math for dosage calculations is very simple math (elementary algebra). If you are having difficulty with the math, than you need to get a math tutor. I have to agree with the school. You need to be 100% correct at giving meds so you don't make a med error that could possibly harm or even kill your patient.

At my school it is one or two (can't remember it was first semester) attempts to get 100%.

I must ask, after you failed the first time, did you get a math tutor? If not, than you have yourself to blame. Sorry to sound harsh, but this is the reality of nursing. We are responsible to give good competent care. Giving meds is the most dangerous part of our jobs in terms of possibly harming the patient.

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Got to agree with the others here. I'm at a west coast school and if you fail the Drug Calc test (

Sorry, but that is nursing school... The math for dosage calculations is very simple math (elementary algebra). If you are having difficulty with the math, than you need to get a math tutor. I have to agree with the school. You need to be 100% correct at giving meds so you don't make a med error that could possibly harm or even kill your patient.

At my school it is one or two (can't remember it was first semester) attempts to get 100%.

I must ask, after you failed the first time, did you get a math tutor? If not, than you have yourself to blame. Sorry to sound harsh, but this is the reality of nursing. We are responsible to give good competent care. Giving meds is the most dangerous part of our jobs in terms of possibly harming the patient.

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i don't understand why dosage are not being taught . i know that in our class we were explained in detail how to determine dosage.. i don't know of anyone who was booted out of class d/t that aspect and they kicked a lot of people out...

however this is something that you should know...don't depend on pharmacy or other nurses to determine what med you should give..advise about practice, practice, practice is a very good one

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Specializes in Med/Surg, Ortho.

Im afraid that is how it is going at most schools. We had weekly dosage calc tests that were basically 4-6 questions and it left little to no wiggle room for errors. Had to pass all of them or there were consequences. They incorperated that grade with our clinical so if you screwed up your math quizzes you screwed up your clinical grade.

Sorry you have to deal with it, but yes i think for the most part we all have.

We didnt have any actual teaching on the dosage calcs, we had the book we had to study for our quizzes and if we needed help it was up to us to go to the instructors and ask outside of clinical time. But, we all had to have math as a pre-req so it was up to us to deal with.

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