We have all dealt with chronic care patients who keep coming back to the hospital because they have COPD and refuse to stop smoking, have CHF but can't be bothered to be compliant with their medications, or they are ESRD but they won't change their lifestyle, yet expect to be rescued whenever they eat a bucket of chicken while drinking a case of soda but can't make their dialysis appointment.
A more experienced nurse told me in my first two years of nursing that she thought 20% of the population used 80% of hospital and healthcare resources. I admit my dentist has used every tactic to try to get me to floss daily... what can I say? Some habits are best learned when very young - I just can't get it done. That point being, that even intelligent people (me...LOL) can't always be made to follow a long term treatment plan if the risk of not following it, doesn't feel real.
Covid antivaxxers... I am sorry to say I am all dystopian fantasy about this. It is all those chronic illness frustrations rolled into risk of death in the fast lane scenario. I am nearly radicalized. I think that anyone who refuses to mask, get vaccinated, wash their hands while propagating myths about fake news should be required to get a special tattoo.
Then when they show up in the ED with Covid symptoms, and test positive... we ask to see the spot where the tattoo is mandated to be placed. When it proves they are fake news antivaxxers... they are escorted out of the hospital by a team in space suits to "the fairgrounds". The fairgrounds has a fence and armed guards and plenty of organic food, water, shelter, sleeping arrangements.... no phones, no computers, no Fox News, no radio.... make them be inside their own heads. Have them reassure each other it isn't real until those around them die. If they actually survive and can agree to be vaccinated before being released... then they can be released.
My county is full of fake news people. We have a vaccination rate of 49% county wide. Covid admissions are up in the region and at our hospital. We don't have that big of a hospital. Having 8-11 Covid cases is a lot for us. 2 of the 12 ICU beds and the nurses caring for them is a lot.
You don't believe Covid is real? Then we will allow you to continue with your thoughts and beliefs when you contract it, you will battle it alone at "the fairgrounds". Yes visitors are welcome... but if they enter, they cannot leave.
Seriously... we need the right to refuse to serve those who threaten our lives and families. They expect to be saved? Darwinian ideas full scale. We are only interfering with it when we try to save these idiots.
I know this may be difficult to process for those who like to recite a few facts and then believe they are sooo much more intelligent than everyone around them…but I can COMPLETELY SUPPORT VACCINES while condemning rhetoric that encourages hate and division. No one on either side should engage in such a dangerous “rant.”
Again, minorities are being vaccinated at a far lower rate than whites. PLEASE tell me how you can spew such hate towards those not vaccinated, when the majority of the people not vaccinated are not even the people you’re pretending and lying they are.
Help me understand what you mean about the minorities please. Are you referring to minorities who choose not to be vaccinated or those who do not have access to vaccines (the latter group should be mon existent). Maybe the undocumented who are afraid of being deported?
If you support OP, you’re either supporting the segregation of minorities, because they are getting vaccinated at far lower rates than whites, or you’re trying to target a relatively small proportion of whites who are choosing not to get the vaccine.
Just because you can recite the science doesn’t mean you can continue such a dangerous rhetoric.
How many posts in this thread can you find that have stated that they support what’s being described in OP’s vent, becoming reality?
There are many nurses who can understand OP’s frustration. That doesn’t mean that they, or even OP, genuinely want to lock sick people up and withhold care.
Can’t you understand how it can be soul-numbing to watch people suffer and die because they were either too ignorant or too selfish to attempt to protect themselves and others? Nurses who have been on the frontlines since the start of this pandemic are sick and tired of watching people die. It was one thing when we didn’t have vaccines, but now that we do, getting severely ill and dying is looking more and more like a choice. And it’s a choice that endangers others, including the nurses who have to be physically close to patients in order to properly care for them.
As I said on the very first page of this thread, I think that all human beings should receive medical care when needed. But that doesn’t mean that I don’t feel that the people who choose to not get vaccinated, have let the society they are a part of, down. I’m simply disappointed in them. And massively angry at people who lie about vaccines, and scare some people enough that they won’t take them.
Again, minorities are being vaccinated at a far lower rate than whites. PLEASE tell me how you can spew such hate towards those not vaccinated, when the majority of the people not vaccinated are not even the people you’re pretending and lying they are.
To whom are you speaking? Also,, please clarify as your syntax does not make much sense.
Help me understand what you mean about the minorities please. Are you referring to minorities who choose not to be vaccinated or those who do not have access to vaccines (the latter group should be mon existent). Maybe the undocumented who are afraid of being deported?
Regardless of their reasons, they are getting vaccinated at far lower rates than whites, and no one in that group should be a victim of this kind of rhetoric in the name of a “frustrated rant.”
I know this may be difficult to process for those who like to recite a few facts and then believe they are sooo much more intelligent than everyone around them…but I can COMPLETELY SUPPORT VACCINES while condemning rhetoric that encourages hate and division. No one on either side should engage in such a dangerous “rant.”
Again, minorities are being vaccinated at a far lower rate than whites. PLEASE tell me how you can spew such hate towards those not vaccinated, when the majority of the people not vaccinated are not even the people you’re pretending and lying they are.
Still waiting for some support for your assertion that the majority of unvaccinated folks are minorities. Also waiting to hear your take on anti-vaccine rhetoric and access to care vis-a-vis minority communities. It seems to me that blaming caregivers for having emotions of which you disapprove lets an awful lot of people off the hook.
Regardless of their reasons, they are the majority of people not getting vaccinated, and no one in that group should be a victim of this kind of rhetoric in the name of a “frustrated rant.”
Oh OK. Gotcha. Disagree with you totally and completely, but I understand the words you are typing on this post.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
3 minutes ago, Zimber said:
I'm not whining. Bullies don't bother me. They are weak individuals.
LOL
Yet you were whining about bullies in this very thread...even though they don't bother you...here you are whining about being "bullied" to do the right and smart thing. Isn't it odd that you consider encouragement to get vaccinated during a pandemic to be bullying?
Yet you were whining about bullies in this very thread...even though they don't bother you...here you are whining about being "bullied" to do the right and smart thing. Isn't it odd that you consider encouragement to get vaccinated during a pandemic to be bullying?
Isn’t it odd that you have no problem discussing bullying while supporting a post that encourages a “dystopian fantasy” that targets a group that is largely minority?
toomuchbaloney
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So you don't isolate patients with infectious diseases from those without diseases in your facility?