Radonda Vaught Was A Guest On A Good Nurse / Bad Nurse Podcast

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For those of you who are following the Radonda Vaught case, she was a guest on the podcast Good Nurse Bad Nurse on January 18, 2022.  (For those not familiar with this case, search for Radonda Vaught and read the threads on the case.  It was discussed extensively.)

I stumbled across the podcast when searching for when her trial starts. 

Spoiler alert - she's the "Good Nurse" featured on the podcast.

The host gives a version of the case starting about 30 minutes 30 seconds.  Radonda starts speaking around 40 minutes.

I'm surprised her lawyer would allow her to speak publicly.

The trial is currently scheduled for 3/22/2022.

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1 hour ago, Anonymous865 said:

Spoiler alert - she's the "Good Nurse" featured on the podcast.

???

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Specializes in Nurse Leader specializing in Labor & Delivery.

Wowza. That's interesting. Is this a criminal trial that is set to start next month?

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I believe so.  I can't believe her attorney allowed her to do this either. All sorts of stupid in this situation. 

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1 hour ago, Wuzzie said:

I believe so.  I can't believe her attorney allowed her to do this either. All sorts of stupid in this situation. 

I have no idea what kind of/how large an audience this podcast really reaches, but with angles addressed in the podcast it might not be a bad move at all from the standpoint of defense and public sympathy.

I agree with you about all the stupid.

I do also believe that 1) override action was made out to be a massively subversive and reckless cowboy move when in fact it had been an action that was so, so common for many nurses. Occurring several times per day depending on the integration of (or lack thereof) the EMR and pharmacy systems.  2) People can argue all day about whether this should have become a major story with a criminal case due solely to the actions of Radonda themselves. But as the timeline of events seems to have unfolded in reality, the reason it blew up the way it did--or ever blew up at all--is because VUMC got caught covering up a death, which was absolutely intentional.  It is precisely how big places roll and we have only seen more proof of that in their sick, abusive actions as time has gone on (separate from this matter).

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I never had an issue with the override...it was everything else after that is problematic including the action of the hospital. I hope the override isn't used as a smokescreen to obscure all the other bad actions that took place.

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22 minutes ago, Wuzzie said:

I never had an issue with the override...it was everything else after that is problematic including the action of the hospital.

Agreed. But the statements in the CMS investigation regarding the override (and the help-all nurse) were so ridiculous, basically just broadcasting that there was an agenda and they were straight up lying.

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It's been so long since I read it that I don't really remember what it said but I don't recall feeling like CMS had an agenda. I'll have to go back and re-read it with that in mind.

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Specializes in ER.

Back in the old days we didn't have "overrides". We read the MAR, checked the 5 rights. 

I started to listen to the podcast, it sounded very tedious and boring. When I tried to advance to 40 minutes it just took forever to load so I gave up. The two speakers' commentary was totally uninteresting. I definitely won't be listening to that Podcast ever again.

Radonda was obviously negligent on many levels. She didn't know what she was giving, she didn't read the label on the vial, she allowed herself to get distracted by her orientee, she didn't monitor the patient. What she did was just grab something that started with the same letter as versed, ran into the room and slammed it in and left. 

In my opinion she deserves severe punishment from the Board of Nursing. I think the criminal case is overkill.

The fact that the hospital then proceeded to engage in a cover-up doesn't excuse her. That is a separate issue.

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8 minutes ago, Wuzzie said:

It's been so long since I read it that I don't really remember what it said but I don't recall feeling like CMS had an agenda. I'll have to go back and re-read it with that in mind.

No...I think they were there to investigate what happened. But the way those elements were portrayed by VUMC was ridiculous. They were the ones with the agenda. I'd have to review, too, but I had the impression CMS was there because they were tipped off about the situation months later. [However, as a side note I'm not sure they asked all the relevant questions but I didn't have the impression that was due to malicious intent but rather just some degree of ignorance about what all goes on).

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24 minutes ago, JKL33 said:

But the way those elements were portrayed by VUMC was ridiculous. They were the ones with the agenda.

Ahhh, I misunderstood who you were referring to. 

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2 hours ago, Emergent said:

The fact that the hospital then proceeded to engage in a cover-up doesn't excuse her. That is a separate issue.

Separate--and cannot excuse RVs actions--but relevant if you need a defense. If I were her lawyer I would aggressively present information about the culture of that corporation, especially in a scenario where (whether any of us agree with the decision or not) regulatory agencies had already decided that RV's actions did not warrant the kind of action that is going on now. We didn't get to this point because RV hid something or because of actual public outrage about the TBON's decision about how to handle RV. We're at this point because the instant that CMS caught up with VUMC and  asked them to answer for their actions, they got the DA on board to help them out.

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