"Recovery" and public shaming

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I've said it before and I will say it again, so glad I got sober as a waitress in the 1980's. No 'wait-person' shaming sites. Even then if I'd ever had a DUI my past would have haunted me forever, I am not really big on my own anonymity as I have been sober nearly 30 years now. I'd add I am glad there was no internet, the only evidence of my past was photos which never were uploaded if I appeared to have that 0400 drinking all night look.

I see not point in the 'publicity' the BON attaches to sober nurses. It seems to me no one is permitted any privacy on what I would say is a HIPAA issue, I doubt they publicly post details of nurses with any other medical issues, anyone can do anything if they insert the word safety but your past should be private, operative word is it is your PAST. Best of luck to you on surviving it all!

Junebug59, RN

217 Posts

Specializes in Main O.R. and CVOR.

i so agree with you berdeenbird!!! it's like we are in the middle of the town square in the dark ages with our heads in the headlock for all of the village to shame and throw rotten food at....

Yep that's the ticket!!! It's a symptom of the larger disease process. Nurses hating Nurses

Wizard 1

175 Posts

Specializes in ER, ICU/CCU, Open Heart OR Recovery, Etc.
Yep that's the ticket!!! It's a symptom of the larger disease process. Nurses hating Nurses

Yes. Nurses follow the Divide and Conquer actions so well.

RNPA11

5 Posts

I am grateful to have come across this thread. I am new to PNAP by way of NJ RAMP. Long story but was doing travel/agency nursing and applied for a NJ RN license. Due to having a DUI prior to becoming an RN I was forced into this monitoring for 5 years. Needless to say, I am feeling all of the emotions that go with this..any helful advice? I was selected today for Option 4. I am not concerned about not "using" any substance as that is not even an issue its the being professionally shamed, finanically imited, etc. I have just completed my MSN and just feel really despondent. Like many have said on here, I have not found one thing useful intis "cookie cutter" process, down to being watched urinate. If anything it has made my Depression worse. Any tips on survival?

Wizard 1

175 Posts

Specializes in ER, ICU/CCU, Open Heart OR Recovery, Etc.

Welcome! You aren't alone in your feelings.

What many of us do when we are having out in these programs is, simply, do the do. When the depression and frustration gets too much, come on here. We have all been there and know where you're at.

I struggled with patience when I was in monitoring. When things got difficult, I reminded myself that I was not going to allow this challenge to beat me, nor was I going to give the powers that be the pleasure of telling me I failed.

I am grateful to have come across this thread. I am new to PNAP by way of NJ RAMP. Long story but was doing travel/agency nursing and applied for a NJ RN license. Due to having a DUI prior to becoming an RN I was forced into this monitoring for 5 years. Needless to say, I am feeling all of the emotions that go with this..any helful advice? I was selected today for Option 4. I am not concerned about not "using" any substance as that is not even an issue its the being professionally shamed, finanically imited, etc. I have just completed my MSN and just feel really despondent. Like many have said on here, I have not found one thing useful intis "cookie cutter" process, down to being watched urinate. If anything it has made my Depression worse. Any tips on survival?
Specializes in OR.

I don't have the worry of "using" either. That was never my issue. I spent the first few years crying and raging. It got me no where. I was and am still right. I don't belong here and got a royal ***** job in the process. However it still is and there is not a whole lot I can do about it. im not giving up though. Just taking a different angle.

I have a sick, dark and twisted sense of humor (don't most people in healthcare?) and I rely on it get through. Anything from jokes about pole dancing to make money for P tests to figuring out how to email stinkweed to someone. If I send a note to my case manager, I sign it with my file number simply to be an ***.

In all seriousness....don't let these people get to you. Do not allow them to talk down to you. You are a highly educated professional adult. Don't let them treat you otherwise. When dealing with the case managers and such, keep meticulous records, printouts and screenshots. Do not trust them a bit.

Keep your head up. It does end. I also count days.....597 to Go

RNPA WELCOME FELLOW PNAP PRISONER:

I'm not gonna lie. There is nothing good about this program in my opinion. However, it is doable. You have gotten some good advice from Wizzard & Cats so far. Don't let these dirt-bags beat you. Hatred keeps me trudging along this road. No way does PNAP win. To win this fight you need two things. First, attention to detail in complying with the idiotic rules. Give them everything they ask for when they ask for it. Don't question the sense of it as it makes none. Like it or hate it we gotta do it. The second thing you need is time. Know that everyday served on your sentence is a day closer to the end.

Depression!!! Yeah me too!!! Do not turn this hatred inward. You gat a DUI. You didn't take part in serial killing. We come from a strange tribe that simply loves the taste of our own kin's blood. The more you give into depression and anxiety the less you keep your eye on the prize of completing farce.

Nurse Practitioner School: I'm in my last semester but I had to take a year off so I didn't miss the wonders of intensive outpatient rehab aka baby sitting for drunks / addicts with halfwits in charge. The limitation here is clinical hours typically. My clinical hours (except for research on my CAPSTONE) are done so I can go to class.

Money: Yeah this year cost me about $40K in wages and a year of pay bump due to NP graduation. Tons of money!!! In addition you gotta pay for all this "professional help" which is simply horrible drivel and your pee tests. You got to make enough money to feed the Pig that PNAP is. If not they will therapeutically toss you out of the program. If you have ever seen the film "GoodFellas" they have a line in there that sums it up pretty well "F U Pay Me".

Sounds pretty crappy? It totally is!!! However, you are a nurse who has faced many challenges to include NP studies. You can do this. Collect yourself and don't let these do-gooding, self righteous pigs take anymore from you than they already have!!!

Meq815

53 Posts

"...everyday served on your sentence is a day closer to the end" is what has kept me sane, especially in those darkest moments.

97 to go....

Hang tough Meq!!! Your coming up on your last lap around this cesspool

Meq815

53 Posts

And honestly, I think I'm more unnerved than I was at the beginning. That damn fear of a false positive, a late document submission, a prescription lost in the mail.....gahhhhh. I hate it so much.

Specializes in OR.

I've been known to submit things twice. Snail mail? Sure, certified, return receipt requested and an email note to boot. Phone call? No problem....followed up by an email through the Affinity communication system whereupon I have a screenshot of said email. Email with attachment of new Rx or something...I accidentally send that twice sometimes. The way I see it, they are gonna make me pay them money, Ima gonna make them earn it.

In all reality it's probably nothing to them just as we are nothing more than a file number, which is part of what I find depressing.

But at the same time, I can have a little fun with it.

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