Questioning Zohran Mamdani

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Does Assemblymember Zohran Mamdani know how to legislate, or is he just riding the coattails of others while claiming the glory? The primary function of the New York State Legislature is to make laws. Article III of the State Constitution vests the legislative power of the State in the Senate and Assembly. The Legislature has nearly total control of the legislative process and is fully responsible for its proceedings.

When asked about his legislative achievements, Mamdani's response was disappointing. He could not provide any concrete examples of laws he had personally created to cut "red tape" for small businesses. He co-sponsored a bill that was authored and introduced by Assemblymember Catalina Cruz, not him. This stark contrast between his claims and his actual legislative record raises serious questions about his leadership. This is not leadership; it is political grandstanding. It is the classic move of someone eager to take the credit without doing the work, like that coworker who swoops in at the end of a project to slap their name on it.

What tangible changes has Mamdani brought about during his time in office that have significantly improved the lives of New Yorkers, particularly those in Queens, NY? This is a question that needs to be asked and answered.

 

 

Beerman said:

Well, since the candidate used it as an example ill take my comment back.

However, he was misinformed.  Interesting it may come back to bite him.

The Kansas City store was not run by the city.  It did receive govt assistance to open.  And, it went out of business because it didn't have customers.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/openings-closings/article311681208.html

 

New Yorkers cannot afford the Mamdani theory a concept modeled on failed government-run grocery stores in Kansas. America cannot afford to elect a candidate who does not value research or the importance of education, and who puts forward ideas with no evidence-based data, such as government grocery stores or "Defund the Police.” Why has not a single reporter covering this race questioned him? Why has no journalist pressed him on why he would use the failed Kansas grocery store model as the blueprint for New York?
This is the kind of issue that should be hammered home in a relentless, repetitive ad. He himself has said he does not want to be judged by his past because it "sends him down a long road.” But history matters. He is an elected member of the New York State Assembly since 2021, Zohran Mamdani, work ethic, record, and tweets  shows a pattern of  taking credit from others, creating division and confusion rather than embracing New York as the melting pot of the world.

 

heron said:

I live in New Mexico I don't care about Mamdani, his career or his politic philosophy. This thread is weirding me out for some reason, so I'm gonna go watch Law and Order reruns. 

The reason you should care is that the far right, who put their agenda above the needs of everyday Americans, will seize on Assemblyman Zohran Mamdani as the poster child for their claim that America is sliding into a communist, socialist state. Which will affect the midterm elections.

 

 

 
Mamdani shifts his voice and tone depending on the audience, even "cosplaying" interviewers to mirror their style, substituting performance for authenticity, and theatrics for real leadership.

 

 

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So, I get that this candidate disturbs you. What I'm not getting is that Mamdani is bad because: the magasphere will use him as a talking point? Or is it his actual proposals? Or both? Lotta dogwhistles and not clear specifics.

On the other hand, as a child of the fifties, I've become over-reactive to propaganda, so maybe I'm projecting.

ETA: just listened to your first YouTube post. I agree with him, so far. I think that four years as a locally elected official is pretty scant experience for someone who wants to run New York City. Even if he's elected, he's going up against the likes of trump, Wall Street and some serious unions with a lot of experience with city services. He may or may not have the skill set. 

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Beerman said:

Part of me wants him to win.  Let's test out the Democratic socialist ideas and see how it goes.

Hopefully better than what history has shown us. 

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Crusades said:

Hopefully better than what history has shown us. 

Whose history are we talking about?

Crusades said:

Hopefully better than what history has shown us. 

Minneapolis tried to freeze the rent. Aisha Chughtai, the VP of the City Council of Minneapolis, could not respond to the utter failure. Why should NY hope it works? We should practice evidence-based policy to better society. People's livelihoods and companies are threatening to close if Assemblyman Zohran Mamdani gets elected to office. Big picture, he is bad for politics. Assemblyman Zohran Mamdani is an elected official who would negatively impact politics, and if he becomes elected, he could harm the Democratic Party's standing nationwide.

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He wants to defund, the police. 

 

An interview was conducted on a popular radio show, but no one held him accountable during the discussion. Zohran Mamdani smiles and says what the interviewer and audience want to hear. Does anyone really know the true Assemblyman Zohran Mamdani, the one who takes credit for work he has not done, and who favors Karl Marx's socialism but masks it as democratic socialism?

 

 

 

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luv2 said:

Minneapolis tried to freeze the rent. Aisha Chughtai, the VP of the City Council of Minneapolis, could not respond to the utter failure. Why should NY hope it works? We should practice evidence-based policy to better society. People's livelihoods and companies are threatening to close if Assemblyman Zohran Mamdani gets elected to office. Big picture, he is bad for politics. Assemblyman Zohran Mamdani is an elected official who would negatively impact politics, and if he becomes elected, he could harm the Democratic Party's standing nationwide.

rent control breakdown video

He wants to defund, the police. 

 

An interview was conducted on a popular radio show, but no one held him accountable during the discussion. Zohran Mamdani smiles and says what the interviewer and audience want to hear. Does anyone really know the true Assemblyman Zohran Mamdani, the one who takes credit for work he has not done, and who favors Karl Marx's socialism but masks it as democratic socialism?

 

 

 

That's quite the gish gallop there. Got some real good dogwhistles tucked in there, too. Since you clearly can't tell the difference between a communist and a social democrat, it's unlikely that this thread is going to lead anywhere helpful.

heron said:

Whose history are we talking about?

Since taking office in 2021, Assemblymember Zohran Mamdani has been a disappointment, failing to deliver any meaningful legislation on housing or other pressing issues facing Queens. While he makes promises, his actions have not reflected real support for the people he was elected to serve. His eloquent speeches may sound inspiring, but they have not translated into tangible results for Democrats or New Yorkers.
Where is the legislation to protect the residents of NYC and Queens? To date, he has authored no serious measures on housing, affordable grocery access, or affordable transit. Instead, he prefers to remind people of his label as a "socialist Democrat.”
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was a true leader who fought tirelessly for racial equity. Assemblymember Mamdani often attempts to compare himself to Dr. King, but the comparison falls flat. While King dedicated his life to justice, equality, and meaningful change, Mamdani invokes his name without demonstrating the same level of impact, courage, or commitment to tangible results.

 

heron said:

That's quite the gish gallop there. Got some real good dogwhistles tucked in there, too. Since you clearly cannot distinguish between a communist and a social democrat, it's unlikely that this thread will lead anywhere helpful.

There is no difference between a communist and a social democrat. The foundational principles of democratic socialism have roots in several key thinkers and movements. One of the key thinkers is Karl Marx, often regarded as the founder of communism, who critiqued capitalism and pushed for worker control, although he envisioned revolution rather than reform. It was Eduard Bernstein who broke from Marx and advanced the concept of "evolutionary socialism,” advocating gradual change through democracy and laying the foundation for democratic socialism. John Stuart Mill influenced the movement with his ideas on liberty, equality, and extending democracy into the economic sphere. In the United States, Michael Harrington popularized democratic socialist thought through his book The Other America and helped shape anti-poverty policy. Later, leaders like Olof Palme in Sweden translated theory into practice, building welfare states with universal healthcare, affordable housing, and strong worker protections.

 

In the U.S., organizational roots also developed through labor and socialist movements. The Social Democratic Party was established in 1898 as a result of divisions within the short-lived Social Democratic Party of America, which was organized initially by Eugene V. Debs in 1897. The split was between "colonizationists,” who favored creating a socialist colony in one state, and the "political wing,” which emphasized direct political action. At the 1898 convention, the colonizationists prevailed, leading Victor Berger and others in the political wing to walk out and form the Social Democratic Party.

 

The new party called itself a "class-conscious, revolutionary social organization". It demanded initiatives such as public works to reduce unemployment, collective production and distribution, national insurance, and the abolition of war. Despite its small size, the party won early victories, electing a mayor in Haverhill, Massachusetts, and two members to the state legislature. By 1900, it had more than 4,500 members across 25 states.

 

At the Indianapolis convention of 1900, the Social Democrats engaged in merger talks with the moderate wing of the Socialist Labor Party, commonly referred to as the "Kangaroos.” Although the negotiations were rocky, both groups ultimately agreed to support Debs for president in the 1900 election. Debs' campaign drew nearly 97,000 votes, far outpacing the Socialist Labor Party's 34,000. This cooperation paved the way for unity, and in 1901, the Social Democrats and the Industrial Workers of the World formally merged to create the Socialist Party of America, giving democratic socialism in the U.S. an organized national platform. 

Please let me know the "dog whistles" you hear.

heron said:

Since you clearly can't tell the difference between a communist and a social democrat, it's unlikely that this thread is going to lead anywhere helpful.

No one here over the years have been able to explain the difference either.   Would you like to take a shot at it?

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There's also apparently no difference now between a republican conservative and a fascist, so there's that to balance that imagined scenario. Since fascists are the folks in control of all of the branches of the federal government, it seems a distraction to worry about a democratic socialist running for mayor.  Maybe that's the point.  

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Beerman said:

No one here over the years have been able to explain the difference either.   Would you like to take a shot at it?

Is that a serious question?

If you only scratch the surface you can say "well taxing the rich and distributing it to social programs" sure sounds like communism. Owning grocery stores sure sounds like communism.  But that's lazy.

I'm sure you know communism advocates for collective ownership of everything by the state and elimination of private property.  

I'm pretty sure Social Democrats don't want this.  They want a more equal distribution of wealth, a social safety net, healthcare and more regulations.  The New Deal had some of these concepts to lift us out of the Great Depression and wealthy people such as the American Liberty League called it communism.  

Meh.....

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Communism, as theorized by Marx, calls for a revolutionary overthrow of capitalism, aiming for a stateless, classless society with common ownership of all means of production, whereas Social Democrats (or modern social democrats) operate within democratic systems, seeking to reform capitalism by strengthening social programs and worker protections through gradual, legal changes, rather than abolishing it. The key differences are the method (revolution vs. reform), the goal (total societal transformation vs. regulated capitalism), and the system (abolition of the state vs. a functioning parliamentary democracy)

 

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