The PVT was never meant to happen. It was not some trick invented to give us results before the 48 hour quick results were ready, it was a computer glitch that allowed us the peace of mind of finding out early if we most likely passed. Therefore it is no surprise that PV found a way to fix it. Those of us who are already licensed got lucky. New testers are not likely to have that sort of luck.
There is a new trick circulating that basically says you can still get the good popup if you try to pay. There is a problem with this, if you put in your credit card information and it allows you to pay, there is NO REFUND if you actually passed. The PVT was never 100% accurate, and false fails were more prominent than false passes. So if you put in your CC and it takes it, there is around a 5% chance that you passed and you just paid 200$ for an inaccurate trick.
Those in states that allow quick results will have to wait 48 hours. It is 48 terrible mind numbing frightening hours, but it's worth it not to pay for a new registration. Those in states not participating in quick results, you should call your BON after 48 hours and try to re-register on the phone. They should stop you if you passed.
The trick was a sanity saver for thousands, and it is sad to see it go, but it was inevitable that it was going to eventually get fixed.
You can try it, but we are not yet sure on the accuracy of it since the new update. In order for the "trick" to work, you have to put your cc info in and press submit as if you were paying the $200. If you passed, you may get the "good" pop up. I would do this with a card you know will be declined, because if you don't get the "good" pop up, you're out $200 whether or not you passed.
...or just that I didnt have the small satisfaction of getting the results almost immediately through the trick that has been around for YEARS, then I would have been mentally prepared and okay with that. Nursing school is a constant state of expectations that were drilled throughout our education in preparation for this test and now one aspect of that has changed.
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No one drilled the expectation of using a 'glitch' into your head except YOU.
Jeez, it's like being angry that someone repaired the hole in the fence where you used to take the short cut. Get over it, you were trespassing anyway. The sidewalk is only 20' further away.
Is it really something to get so upset over? Don't you wait for Xmas and special holidays? Think of it that way...
Yes, they charge $200 to test. They also have to staff the testing centers, maintain and repair the computers, pay the rent at the testing centers and keep their website live. They have to be PCI compliant and pay for all that security that proves no one is cheating and they have to maintain a license with the nursing boards. It's not like they are charging us and growing rich from it! It's not cheap to run an operation like that. As for the 8 dollars to get the test results, who among us didn't pay that much at Starbucks every day that we studied? Really, 8 dollars is not a lot of money, and if every test taker refused to pay it and just waited for results, PV would not really care a whole lot. Besides most of us went on and paid it anyway even after the doing the trick because we wanted to be sure.
This is not about money. The computer grades the test the first time, and so yes! The computer knows if it thinks you passed or failed, but then it has to be graded again, all of the security tapes and palm prints, etc. needs to be looked at and that takes a little time so there's a 48 hour wait. Some nursing boards put up the licenses prior to the 48 hours because it was cut and dried, no borderline anything and the fact you passed was without any question. This is about accuracy! What if the computer thinks you passed then the second review finds a couple of questions that were wrong pulling you below the passing line? What if the computer thinks you failed and the second review found out it marked something wrong that was right? The trick was not 100%, but I have a classmate that drank herself almost into the ED because of the credit card page and 2 days later she found out she passed!
Give it a break everyone! Yes, the wait is terrible, and guess what!? Three months ago when I and most of my friends got the good pop up we were still freaked out until we got the quick results. Why? Because it was a trick and we knew it could be wrong.
Take a deep breath, tell yourself that 48 hours is not really such a long time to wait, and be happy that it wasn't the old paper test that took 6 weeks for results. Reading some of these posts make me laugh because it really is nothing you can change! Are you all going to be driving recruiters and nurse managers nuts when you have to wait to see if you are going to get an interview? Will those of you who are out of work for a few months harass every hospital within a 10 mile radius to find out if they are going to have new grad openings? Life consists of a lot of really good moments, a few really bad ones and a ton of waiting in between. Nothing is going to change that!
Took nclex today, tried pvt entered cc info and got this, " Our records indicate that you have recently scheduled this exam. Another registration cannot be made at this time", happened to a friend of mine who also took it today
It's still alive, just have to enter cc info and submit. If you passed you'll receive "Our records indicate that you have recently scheduled this exam. Another registration cannot be made at this time", if you failed well, you just paid $200 but you have to anyway.
I took my second attempt yesterday (170 questions). I did the PV trick today (like last time) and it took me to the CC page. I have been agonizing and reviewing new study courses all day trying to decide which one(s) to purchase. So there's a chance I passed, but because the PV trick is dead, I've been freaking out!?!? My state is not real quick on turn around, they haven't changed my status on the BON yet.
Feeling HOPEFUL again!!!
See the post above, there is a chance you passed and you may still get the good pop up. I did and so did many others it's just a different process.
So far, I haven't heard of anyone NOT getting the good popup when they put in the credit card information. It would seem that PV is all fixed and the good pop up is merely keeping people from paying until they know for sure. that would mean that the site is behaving like originally intended.
If it did take your cc information though, you would be out $200 before you ever get official results
I disagree with you completely. There is not evidence to support your argument. Not all nursing students even knew about the PVT, and in some states, your results are posted at the BON before the PV 48 HR quick results.
And Pearson doesn't set the fee for the test. That's all NCSBN setting the price.
Reread my post and you will realize I NEVER said ALL nursing students used the PVT. I said many. And my evidence is allnurses itself. Just type in the search bar "PVT", THOUSANDS of results pop up from people asking if it works/is real/is this the good pop-up. It's not that hard to see the massive amount of test-takers who discuss the PVT.
And yes, in some states results are posted before 48 hours and in some states, IT'S NOT. The quick results fee/option was not useless and it charged you money for a reason... This is not a free world. People charge money to make money. I don't know why that is appalling to say or think. Believe me, Pearson isn't changing the website out of the goodness of their hearts. They are not worried that people may get inaccurate results from a TRICK. Furthermore, like I said before, I do not think the change was made SOLELY on money, but I believe money was a factor.
Lastly, I don't know how you know NCSBN sets the fees, where's your evidence (mildly kidding, but I couldn't find it anywhere), but I paid $200 on the PearsonVue website and assumed I was paying Pearson. I don't know why if Pearson was getting the money why NCSBN would set the testing fee amount. Additionally, you don't ever pay NCSBN directly, you pay your state BON for your license.
I am not being nasty and I want to make that clear. But I don't know why when I say Pearson probably does not likes to get ripped off because of some trick on their website, that that may be part of the reason they decided to change their website. If you had a business, you would not allow people to scam you because you want to be paid for your service, right?
Reread my post and you will realize I NEVER said ALL nursing students used the PVT. I said many. And my evidence is allnurses itself. Just type in the search bar "PVT", THOUSANDS of results pop up from people asking if it works/is real/is this the good pop-up. It's not that hard to see the massive amount of test-takers who discuss the PVT.
And yes, in some states results are posted before 48 hours and in some states, IT'S NOT. The quick results fee/option was not useless and it charged you money for a reason... This is not a free world. People charge money to make money. I don't know why that is appalling to say or think. Believe me, Pearson isn't changing the website out of the goodness of their hearts. They are not worried that people may get inaccurate results from a TRICK. Furthermore, like I said before, I do not think the change was made SOLELY on money, but I believe money was a factor.
Lastly, I don't know how you know NCSBN sets the fees, where's your evidence (mildly kidding, but I couldn't find it anywhere), but I paid $200 on the PearsonVue website and assumed I was paying Pearson. I don't know why if Pearson was getting the money why NCSBN would set the testing fee amount. Additionally, you don't ever pay NCSBN directly, you pay your state BON for your license.
I am not being nasty and I want to make that clear. But I don't know why when I say Pearson probably does not likes to get ripped off because of some trick on their website, that that may be part of the reason they decided to change their website. If you had a business, you would not allow people to scam you because you want to be paid for your service, right?
Money isn't everything, but it is important.
AN is a very small microcosm when compared to the number of students taking the test daily. Further, this sample is saturated with forums about the NCLEX. Everyone else (which would be the majority of students), certainly are not reading about the PVT in their cafeteria bulletin boards. AN is too small and too saturated a sample to be considered accurate evidence that there is significant loss of quick result fees for PV (20 years accounting here before nursing). There is no basis of fact in the contention that PV fixed a software glitch to increase profits on early release results. That is just conjecture and supposition.
What is known is that the entire website underwent changes, and the website was down for those changes. Periodic upgrades to software, and maintenance on a website, is just normal and expected.
I also believe that they are concerned about incorrect information being disseminated through a glitch, no matter if it is for the NCLEX or OTHER proctored tests. My basis for this are the numerous news stories about some of the problems PV has experienced due to various glitches in testing center software and web software. There are loads of them. That speaks to a need to upgrade software to save their reputation, and thus save money, and is considered routine in e-commerce.
Accuracy and reputation are much more profitable. Especially when you consider the microcosm of students who even know about PVT (my class had 120 students--I never heard anyone else even mention PVT), then deduct those who found out through their BON faster anyway so they didn't need a 2-day fee, then deduct those whose fee was included in their school payment for the test anyway, then deduct those who chose to pay anyway. The number left would be negligible.
As for testing fees, as it was explained to me in school (and I admit this information could be incorrect--just going off what was said to me), NCSBN writes the test and works with PV to proctor the test. Yes, PV collects a test fee, but as it was explained to me, that fee is broken down based on the value of time and resources needed for the test, which is written by NCSBN. PV must follow the protocols for the exam that NCSBN establishes--which includes a rigorous battery of software development for the exam itself, cost of computers, cost of administration, staffing, brick and mortar test centers, and so many other associated costs. Thus, that cost IS established by NCSBN. NCSBN writes the test, they get to make the rules, and those rules cost money. The state fee paid is for the issuance of license and administration from the state board.
Just to be clear, I am not trying to be nasty either. :-) but there is scant evidence to prove PV loses any measurable income from $7 2-day fees by not repairing their software--if that was their reason, they wouldn't have taken loses for over five years. And as they are a testing agency, improving accuracy and fixing glitches is essential to their reputation, and a routine process for any business. There is nothing to see here.
When all things are considered, we pay far less for our tests than many schools charge for one credit hour. I don't think that is a bad deal. And two days is nothing--I've waited longer for my old OB/PEDS teacher to score an in class exam.
Anyway, that's where I stand. Maybe we just agree to disagree :-)
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You can try it, but we are not yet sure on the accuracy of it since the new update. In order for the "trick" to work, you have to put your cc info in and press submit as if you were paying the $200. If you passed, you may get the "good" pop up. I would do this with a card you know will be declined, because if you don't get the "good" pop up, you're out $200 whether or not you passed.