Professional Behaviour & Conduct - help!

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This is a bit tough for me to explain coherently, so please, bear with me. I'd really appreciate the thoughts/opinions/advice of the members here as all the evidence (i.e. your postings and responses) are filled with intelligence, social awareness, warmth and understanding.

Here's the background: I'm a 20 year old nursing student - sort of second year, kind of first year. I did the first semester of first year but only one subject (non-clinical) in second semester, because I was unwell. So now I'm sort of meshed between the two. I also work as a nursing assistant in a nursing home and in a hospital for profoundly disabled children. I've also spent a good deal of time around hospitals as a patient (chronic asthma as a child) and a relative/visitor (elderly grandparents - the works.) So, I have a fairly decent basic understanding of how a hospital ward works (simply in comparison to many of my fellow students who've never set foot in a hospital!)

& the story: my clinical placement last semester was my second clinical placement for me, but the first for everyone else in my group. We were divided into pairs and assigned to different wards and we were to spend the week on AM shifts on this ward. I was placed with a shy, nervous, unsure international student (we had the same name!) on a respiratory ward, which was exciting as there were lots of things to see and to learn about.

The design of our clinical is that we are buddied up with an RN on the ward and our facilitator comes to check on us/visit once or twice throughout the shift. On the first day, this was fine and all went to plan. However from the second day onwards it became our responsibility to find a nurse to buddy with (most not being very receptive to students, we often ended up with casuals who had no idea about the ward) and try not to step on anyone's toes. It was very much a balancing act between learning/meeting our objectives and not getting in the way of the staff or treading on their toes. We certainly did the best we could, anyway. & though it was often very uncomfortable (dirty glares, being ignored etc) we did learn some amazing things (saw my first trach, TB pt, ND tube, PICC & CVC etc.)

However, my facilitator (who was barely around and took most of her reports from the staff on the ward, with whom which she normally worked) wasn't impressed with my performance and gave me an unsatisfactory grade. She cited poor professional behaviour as the reason and gave several examples which I'll share with you now:

  1. I, naturally, have a loud voice and often failed to control this in the clinical setting
  2. Whilst observing a bronchosocopy I let out a small, shocked "oh!" on the sight on an extra large glob of sputum on the screen. Totally unacceptable, as even though the patient was sedated, they were still concious and I could have scared them awfully! I recognised my fault immediately and shut the hell up and apologised to the nursing staff in the suite following. (Unfortunately, they intreperted my "oh" as an "ew" and passed this on to my facilitator.)
  3. An exceptionally confused pt telling me that I spoke to loudly (after I'd gone to trouble of massaging his feet when no one else wanted to go near him because he was v aggravating!)
  4. Myself and a casual nurse were tossing between getting a pt up for a shower or sponging him in bed. She'd decided on a shower and I went to hunt for the commode chair. When I returned the NUM had said best give him a sponge (probably a good choice, too) and reported to my facilitator that I wasn't following instructions or working as a team.
  5. I appeared "overly confident". I'm not sure whether this should be put down to the fact that unlike the other students, I wasn't squeamish about giving a shower/sponge because I'd done it 100x before and knew my way around the hospital (which I was familiar with) or because when I'm nervous I dont withdraw, I tend to try to push through it by asking if there's anything I can do to help or asking questions about things Im curious about (e.g. the trach pt)
  6. Asking the NUM at the nurses station about a pt's status and what her prognosis was. This was the wrong place to conduct this conversation, but I felt it in poor taste of the NUM to report me for doing this when she fueled the fire, so to speak, by providing the nitty gritty details
  7. Apparently I interupted the NUM on the phone (I have no recollection of this and can't imagine myself doing so.)

I don't want these examples to come off as defensive, because there's really no point in my insisting that I'm right and they're wrong. On some accounts, I feel I've been poorly treated in terms of miscommunication of situations (e.g. the shower chair) however on the whole, I think I have some issues that I need to work on regarding professional behaviour.

My next clinical is coming up in three weeks time and I'm really looking forward to it. It's two weeks on a haemodialysis unit! I want to improve my performance in terms of professional behaviour and I was hoping that the collective knowledge of allnurses might have some ideas. Specifically, I think I need a hand with:

  1. Appearing meek, proactive and willing to learn without stepping on anyone's toes, getting in the way of the staff or stepping outside my role as a student
  2. Lowering the volume of my voice consistently
  3. Carrying myself as "a professional" - not a friend of the patient or the staff (and not an equal of the staff, either)

I'm sure that's not everything but I'm about out of ideas. I really do need some prods in the right direction. Nursing has always been my dream, ever since I was a little girl. & I'm not bad at it, either. I work three jobs as a nursing assistant - they wouldn't have hired me or kept me on if I were no good, right? But I've got a lot to learn.

Thanks so much if you got this far!

Specializes in Med/Surg/Ortho/HH/Radiology-Now Retired.
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originally posted by rachelgeorgina viewpost.gif

i'd really appreciate the thoughts/opinions/advice of the members here
as all the evidence (i.e. your postings and responses) are filled with intelligence, social awareness, warmth and understanding
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really? bs, rachel - you are trying to direct your audience to behave in a certain way./quote]

and your statement ... highlighted above is not, trish?

I think you got some really good advice. One other thing I would suggest as it sounds like you are a little firecracker (meant in a totally nice way!!) count to 5 at times just to calm yourself a bit. Often when people are a little loud they are seen as hyper and reactionary and counting to 5 is a good way for you to counter that. I think you'll be a great nurse!!

I also wonder if some might be a wee bit jealous that you are confident because you have some training. Keep what you know to yourself. While you might be being helpful others might feel threatened.

Specializes in CAMHS, acute psych,.
quoting trish,addressing rachel- since you've got the guts to take it and reflect on it constructively. and

[originally posted by rachelgeorgina viewpost.gif

i'd really appreciate the thoughts/opinions/advice of the members here
as all the evidence (i.e. your postings and responses) are filled with intelligence, social awareness, warmth and understanding
.

really? bs, rachel - you are trying to direct your audience to behave in a certain way.

and your statement ... highlighted above is not, trish?

i make the following assumption in my analysis of your text, grace: that you have highlighted the second statement to demonstrate what you see me doing with the first statement. in which case:

very good grace - ya' busted me! in my (i hope gutsy, reflective) analysis here i will claim one thing: i directed the first blue statement strictly to one person about whom i made certain "intelligence, social awareness, warmth and understanding" assumptions (based on reviewing a number of rg posts over time) rather than to "all the members" (many of whom are demonstrably not "filled with intelligence, social awareness, warmth and understanding") - hence my bs assertion in the second blue statement (which i stand by).

my direction to rachel to behave in a certain way (i.e. i expected that it would be hard to read - she has already made it clear she doesn't like to be criticised) was at her invitation (to provide "thoughts/opinions/advice"). upon reflection (thank you, grace), i recognise that i would have been better to leave out that first blue sentence.

rachel i apologise for being manipulative - i should have said "brace yourself - i'm about to write some possibly hard-to-read thoughts atya."

let's not fall into an epistemological rabbit hole, ok grace?

best wishes

Specializes in Emergency Nursing.

To the OP: Don't try to be something your not, acting meek if its not in your nature will make you appear phony and annoying. Lower your voice when your speaking. Remain professional at all times when your at the clinical site. And finally be eager to learn but not overconfident.

!Chris :specs:

Specializes in oncology, med/surg (all kinds).

whenever i want to change something about myself, i start the day off saying "okay--i am going to make sure i ___________(whatever, talk quieter, eat healthier...). the problem is, we all tend to lose awareness while we are going thru our day. you might reflect back to see how you did, but realize you forgot to work on whatever it is one you started concentrating on something else.

you might consider some sort of touch stone or something that you can put in your pocket--something that doesn't really belong there so that when you reach into your pocket for something and you touch your rock, that split second of wondering what the heck is a rock there, might serve a reminder for you to work on your skills. just a suggestion. i've done it, but i end up putting it in the pocket i don't use. then, i'd be weighed down with rocks just to remember things! but i'll bet you would not be that way, so there is a concrete suggestion for ya, if you like.

Specializes in Med/Surg/Ortho/HH/Radiology-Now Retired.
[/QLet's not fall into an epistemological rabbit hole, OK Grace?UOTE]

I don't get into holes with Rabbits or anyone else Trish, so you're safe there! :coollook:

Specializes in CAMHS, acute psych,.

Rachel

I was far too much of a smart orifice in my reply to your OP. I apologise for being so opinionated and coming across as an aggressive sheet rather than helpful.

From all your posts I've read you come across as a smart, energetic, lively woman.

Take care and good luck

Specializes in ER.

Trish, I had the same opinions, but was stuck as to how to write it all out in a constructive way. It's hard to be a blank slate when you have some experience, sometimes harder to learn than if you know nothing.

OP, try to absorb information rather than show what you already know. Most nursing students have the opposite problem, we have to encourage them to jump in, so you may be getting mixed messages. Good luck.

Specializes in Medical.

The reason overconfidence is so quickly jumped on is because overconfident, inexperienced nurses tend not to ask for help - or even recognise - when they are out of their depth. If you demonstrate that you are aware of your limitations the RNs will relax a bit.

Loud voices can indicate dominance, decreased control and panic, as well as increasing the likelihood of someone overhearing something that should be confidential. It will take a little practice but make huge difference.

Specializes in ..

I wanted to say a huge thank you to everyone who has contributed to this thread. Every response (yes, every) has been insightful, enlightening and most significantly, helpful. I appreciate your input one hundred fold. Thank you! Honestly... thank you. I cant think of any words that really do express my gratitude and I dont want to get soppy, so I'll leave it there but I couldn't reply to this thread without attempting, in some small way, to leave a note of thanks.

I've spent a lot of time going over each your replies, suggestions and advice, which has all been really insightful and, I think, really important for me to consider in order to make effective changes. I've come up with a table that I add to each time something new pops into my head to try and organise these thoughts. I was going to share it with you - just to see what everyone thinks about the conclusions I've come to. I'd appreicate any advice/additions/changes to the list.

Tomorrow morning I'm going to meet with one of the student counsellors that the faculty staff have recommended to discuss professional behaviour. I'm not sure exactly what this will entail but it can't hurt, right? & if she has any insight, ideas, thoughts etc... then brilliant. I'm going to be taking this list with me as well as the following question, which is, I think, what I'm struggling with the most:

What is the place and role of the student in the clinical environment?

We are guests on the ward, there to learn and improve our skills as nurses. We need to be proactive, willing and excited whilst keeping out of the way and not stepping on any toes. I have found, very often, that there is nothing for students to do. Asking for things to do more than once in the hour is annoying for staff, and once all the patients have fresh water, their call bells answered to the best of your ability the old ladies are sick of talking to you, there's little left to do. When your facilitator rocks up for a visit, it's hard to look useful! I generally read all the patient charts, look up medications, diagnoses and treatments that I dont know/understand and make myself clearly available if anyone needs a hand. However facilitators often take a bad idea from seeing a student sitting at a desk. Can anyone help me out on this one?

PROBLEM #1: Overconfidence

Strategies to improve:

- Recognize (and display recognition of) limitations

- Practice within boundaries

- Be aware of other's perception of actions

- Project a willingness and eagerness to learn

- Ask for help when required

"Do Nots"

Do not project arrogance

Do not share/show off prior skill/knowledge

Do not give staff a reason to believe I am out of my depth/will screw up as a result

PROBLEM #2: Appropriate Staff Interaction

Strategies:

- Ask permission to ask questions

- Be aware of work place politics and unseen/unknown issues

- Be friendly, not familiar

"Do Nots"

- Do not interrupt staff

- Do not ask leading questions/show off

- No personal conversations. Topics to be light/work related

- Don't get comfortable. Remember my place

PROBLEM #3: Take responsibility for own learning

Strategies:

- Share with facilitator (buddy RN?) skills to learn/practice (e.g. basic dressings, lowering voice etc)

- Continually seek feedback for a variety of sources (other students, staff, facilitator) and advice/suggestions to improve/change

- Show a willingness to learn

- Listen.

"Do Nots:

- Stick to scope of practice

- Refuse any tasks offered given (I've heard plenty of stories about students not wanting to give a bed bath because they're "not first years anymore!")

PROBLEM #4: VOLUME OF VOICE

Strategies:

- Employ mindfulness and awareness ---> regular assessment

- Appear calm and in control

- Ask peers and facilitator for hints/reminders

- Use a physical reminder e.g. touch stone (I LOVE this one!)

- STAR: Stop, Think, Act, Review

"Do Nots":

- Do not speak within hearing range of pts if can be helped

- Do not speak about pts in open/public areas

- Protect confidential information

- Don't speak out of turn

PROBLEM #5: Professional Behaviour

Strategies:

- Be friendly, not familiar

- Express a willingness to learn and assist the team

- Be patient

- Remember that staff have other concerns --> workplace politics

"Do Nots":

- Do not raise voice

- Do not speak about pts/use confidential information in public areas

- Conversation with staff/others to be light and non-personal

Specializes in CAMHS, acute psych,.

You are a gem Rachel - except maybe now you're being too hard on yourself.

I think (here I go again) that intelligent, reflective people who are passionate about the things they care about and who have the confidence to speak out effectively are a very rare breed. (Most of us end up - like me - with foot in mouth). It is especially impressive when someone can take a kick and get right back up and stay gracious. Very rare. For what it's worth, I think you have shown huge strength of character and courage in this thread. Simply huge. Wow.

I am sure your meeting with the advisor will be a triffic success.

Best wishes

Specializes in Med/Surg; aged care; OH&S.

I agree you're being very hard on yourself, and am concerned you're possibly setting yourself up for failure which such strict guidelines.

I'm not too comfortable myself with knowing my place, not getting comfortable and not speaking out of turn etc. The thing is, you're not a robot! And you're dealing with human beings so there are many variables you can't possibly take into account. Still, you need to do what you are comfortable with, and what you feel is best.

You will find your way I have no doubt. It all gets easier when you start working and take on a more autonomous role.

However facilitators often take a bad idea from seeing a student sitting at a desk. Can anyone help me out on this one?

This can be difficult, particularly if you're in a unit which is not engaging or cooperative with students. If you're in a surgical unit, you might request to see some operations or procedures (with the patient's and surgeon's consent but this isn't usually a problem). Shadow your buddy nurse as much as possible to get to know the routine of different shifts and do as many tasks as possible within your role. If you find you're being buddied with casual staff instead of permanent staff - bring this up with your facilitator as feed-back! Remember students are assessing the workplace too - for potential jobs down the track.

Good luck with it all - good luck particularly with the facilitator.

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