President Biden thread

Beerman said:

You've said you don't think illegal immigrants as criminals.

I've asked what should happen to illegal immigrants who are caught at the border and you've declined to answer.

So, that leaves me to infer based on everything else you've said on the matter.  Your border policy would be to welcome and release,  provide work visas, and then grant amnesty.  Without any kind of criminal penalty or deterrent, you've decriminalized illegal immigration.

His public remarks (including "I'm proud to be the first black women...") hosting events, and attending meetings isn't too high of a bar.  And there is a host of other things that have come out.  Here's a new one:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/nbc-news-chuck-todd-reveals-senior-cabinet-secretary-told-him-2022-biden-cant-run-again-like-this

 

Yes, his team has been hiding his deficiencies as best they can, and have been lying to us.  And the political activist press has been helping them out.   Now they're freaking out and want to get rid of him.  I don't expect someone like you to change your vote, but it's foolish to not acknowledge all that.

That wasn't Ezra Klein's opinion.  His is much like yours.  That was him reiterating what some Democrats have told him.

That's correct, I don't think of them as criminals.  That's different for advocating for decriminalizing illegal entry, right? 

I didn't decline to answer.  I told you that they should be treated according to the law. Illegal crossing is a misdemeanor and in the absence of some other crime or reasonable suspicion of a crime, detention isn't the law.  At least as I understand it.  

You can infer what you prefer.

Of course I'm not going to change my vote because of the effort to spook voters away from Biden.  

Everyone has an opinion. I prefer to seek out opinions in forums such as this. 

I like to contrast the two candidates and parties.  There are also Republicans who think that it's a colossal error in judgment to make Trump their candidate again.  Other Republicans call them names and demean them in response.  Then they work hard to remove their voices from the party.  That's how it works in the era of Trump.  

Crusades said:

Sure. Then we should do away with all the government policy and restrictions on medical proceedure and medications. 

All things should be left up to the patient and their doctor. 

I imagine you took no issue with the politicians mandating vaccines and quarantine too right? The former is a choice, the latter is forced. 

There's that crazy logic again.  Hyperbole is a terrible argument. 

What healthcare decisions shouldn't be left up to patients and their doctors?  Can you be specific?  

You do realize that a variety of mandates were patchwork applied across the country during Trump's crazy response to Covid, right?  The absence of any meaningful leadership for team Trump resulted in a chaotic and ineffective public response to the pandemic.  

subee said:

  You have the right to leave that job and do something else.  The Covid vaccine was no better or worst than any other vaccine we have to take to work in patient care areas.  

Yes. And if you cannot get an abortion in your state, you can go somewhere else. 

subee said:

I hate liars a d people who brag about snatching the genitals of teenage girls.  I guess it's OK as long as he's preying on female adolescents.  Would it feel as comfortable to you if he were doing that to boys?

Are you talking about Biden sniffing children? I don't think he cares what the sex is. 

toomuchbaloney said:

There's that crazy logic again.  Hyperbole is a terrible argument. 

What healthcare decisions shouldn't be left up to patients and their doctors?  Can you be specific?  

You do realize that a variety of mandates were patchwork applied across the country during Trump's crazy response to Covid, right?  The absence of any meaningful leadership for team Trump resulted in a chaotic and ineffective public response to the pandemic.  

What makes puberty blockers and hormone therapy appropriate to be up to the patient and Dr? And not other medications? 

Crusades said:

Yes. And if you cannot get an abortion in your state, you can go somewhere else. 

With a 104 temp in a helicopter trip that costs tens of thousands of dollars)? Why should anyone else have ti conform to your religious beliefs?  My religion.  Maybe I should force you to conform to mine.

subee said:

With a 104 temp in a helicopter trip that costs tens of thousands of dollars)? Why should anyone else have ti conform to your religious beliefs?  My religion.  Maybe I should force you to conform to mine.

Your profile doesn't claim you to be a nurse.  AN has a forum section for religion if you'd prefer to post your religious beliefs there.  I suspect that you have never had any experience in nursing in pediatrics.  You seem to have no empathy for them. 

subee said:

With a 104 temp in a helicopter trip that costs tens of thousands of dollars)? Why should anyone else have ti conform to your religious beliefs?  My religion.  Maybe I should force you to conform to mine.

Is a high a temperature related to not being able to get an abortion? 

Or are you refering to the made up stories of women becoming sepsis and refused treatment because a republican state or bill? Due to the Dr being  too scarred to treat  the woman with an already deceased fetus which has now caused a systemic infection? 

A republican bill that no one has yet to produced to back up this scary camp fire story? 

I have said nothing about religion. Not a word so I'm unsure why you are referencing my religion? 

subee said:

Your profile doesn't claim you to be a nurse.  AN has a forum section for religion if you'd prefer to post your religious beliefs there.  I suspect that you have never had any experience in nursing in pediatrics.  You seem to have no empathy for them. 

 

I have never mentioned religion once. So I'm not sure what posting to the religious forum on AN is about? 

If you worked at Planned Parenthood or an abortion clinic , I imagine you wouldn't have much experience in pediatrics either ? 

That's makes as much sense as your empathy comment. 

United States

Biden mixes Harris with Trump, insists he is staying in the presidential race

Look, I wouldn't have picked Vice President Trump to be vice president if she was not qualified to be president. So start there," Biden said as he responded to a question from Reuters about his confidence in Harris.

That came a few hours after Biden mistakenly referred to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy as "President Putin" at the NATO summit in Washington, drawing gasps from those in the room.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-face-press-high-stakes-effort-quell-age-concerns-2024-07-11/

Crusades said:

What makes puberty blockers and hormone therapy appropriate to be up to the patient and Dr? And not other medications? 

I notice that you ignore the questions posed to you to ask another dumb question about why doctors recommend specific treatments for specific concerns. You are spinning so hard. 

Crusades said:

United States

Biden mixes Harris with Trump, insists he is staying in the presidential race

Look, I wouldn't have picked Vice President Trump to be vice president if she was not qualified to be president. So start there," Biden said as he responded to a question from Reuters about his confidence in Harris.

That came a few hours after Biden mistakenly referred to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy as "President Putin" at the NATO summit in Washington, drawing gasps from those in the room.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-face-press-high-stakes-effort-quell-age-concerns-2024-07-11/

Yawn

You must have missed the dozens of times that Trump has done similar or worse, because you certainly would hold Biden to a completely different standard on purpose, right? 

It's boring, this silly argument about the cognition of the two old  men. Both are old.  Both make verbal gaffes.  Only one tried to overthrow our government the last time he lost.  

The choice for Biden is easy if you care about law and order or the constitution. Trump threatens both of those things with his own words and actions.