President Biden thread

subee said:

I'd like to hear about his accomplishments.

Trump's accomplishments can be criticized from the liberal point of view but from the conservative side praised and we've been over them many times here.  Do you really want to hear about them?

Beerman said:

It was a good speech, as would be expected from the POTUS at such an occasion.  It's remarkable it has to mentioned and pointed out when our current president delivers one.

Not that I'd blame him, but I don't believe for a second that he wouldn't pardon Hunter.

He also hasn't known Putin for over 40 years.  We know his mind is sharp, so he must be lying.

Actually when Trump was President it was headline news when he made a good speech that showed leadership that wasn't full of lies, rambling, and childish name calling.

I remember that people made a lot of fun of George Bush, Jr.  too.  

But yeah, when a present delivers a speech that is honest, fact filled, from the heart it shouldn't be pointed out as it's expected a President should deliver such a speech.

Too bad no matter what the outcome unless someone dies we won't get such a speech for a while.

Beerman said:

That is correct.  Biden has shown symptoms of dementia.  Whatever you think of Trump doesn't change that.

Yes, he will pardon Hunter.  That would be expected and no one will be surprised if he does it.  He didn't have to explicity say he would  to answer the question.  I immediately thought of two ways to answered that better and I don't have decades of political experience and a team of professionals coaching me.  He simply chose to lie.

Just like when he said he never discussed Hunter's business with him.  How unusual.  We all would expect that he did,  so why would he say he didn't?  He's lied so much his whole life he simply believes whatever he says will be taken as being true. 

Nah. He'll just say he doesn't remember when he pardoned his son Bo cuz he died in 'nam in 1945. 

Tweety said:

Actually when Trump was President it was headline news when he made a good speech that showed leadership that wasn't full of lies, rambling, and childish name calling.

I remember that people made a lot of fun of George Bush, Jr.  too.  

But yeah, when a present delivers a speech that is honest, fact filled, from the heart it shouldn't be pointed out as it's expected a President should deliver such a speech.

Too bad no matter what the outcome unless someone dies we won't get such a speech for a while.

We get speeches like that now from Biden.  

toomuchbaloney said:

We get speeches like that now from Biden.  

But the gaffes!

Crusades said:

No. I'm talking about your repetitive propaganda.  As evident in these threads. 

Fascism may be traditionally "right" but it seems to have taken on by the left. 

But of course they will do it better. 

Sure. 

Facts and truth are not the same as propaganda.  You would have to show where I was deliberately misleading you with made up nonsense peppered in with reality.  You can't do that.  

You don't know what your are talking about relative to fascism.  That makes all of your remarks suspect and somewhat unbelievable.  Don't worry.  Believability and integrity don't really matter in Trump's orbit.  

Beerman said:

That is correct.  Biden has shown symptoms of dementia.  Whatever you think of Trump doesn't change that.

Yes, he will pardon Hunter.  That would be expected and no one will be surprised if he does it.  He didn't have to explicity say he would  to answer the question.  I immediately thought of two ways to answered that better and I don't have decades of political experience and a team of professionals coaching me.  He simply chose to lie.

Just like when he said he never discussed Hunter's business with him.  How unusual.  We all would expect that he did,  so why would he say he didn't?  He's lied so much his whole life he simply believes whatever he says will be taken as being true. 

Sure. Biden shows signs of dementia in exactly the same way his opponent shows his stable genius.  

Your statements are confused.  First you say he WILL pardon his son should he be convicted then you say IF. 

Then you go on to repeat the right wing claim about Joe discussing Hunter's business even though Hunter's partners and business associates said that was nonsense.  Funny how house Republicans didn't want any of that testimony in an open hearing. Nevertheless, it is apparently just sufficient to speculate about Joe's crimes for Trump voters to repeat those claims as if there is evidence to support them.  

You want to believe so badly that Biden will pardon Hunter just like you want to believe that a Trump is a reasonable option for the presidency and isn't really a corrupt and lying felon. If only you had evidence that either was true that you could share here.  

toomuchbaloney said:

Sure. 

Facts and truth are not the same as propaganda.  You would have to show where I was deliberately misleading you with made up nonsense peppered in with reality.  You can't do that.  

You don't know what your area talking about relative to fascism.  That makes all of your remarks suspect and somewhat unbelievable.  Don't worry.  Believability  and integrity don't really matter in Trump's orbit.  

"Facts and truth" true or not when used in repetitive religious like chants to sway alternate thoughts, definitely is propaganda.  Especially when large groups of people do the same. 

Stating a fact and presenting it in a way that misleading is text book propaganda.  

toomuchbaloney said:

Sure. Biden shows signs of dementia in exactly the same way his opponent shows his stable genius.  

Your statements are confused.  First you say he WILL pardon his son should he be convicted then you say IF. 

Then you go on to repeat the right wing claim about Joe discussing Hunter's business even though Hunter's partners and business associates said that was nonsense.  Funny how house Republicans didn't want any of that testimony in an open hearing. Nevertheless, it is apparently just sufficient to speculate about Joe's crimes for Trump voters to repeat those claims as if there is evidence to support them.  

You want to believe so badly that Biden will pardon Hunter just like you want to believe that a Trump is a reasonable option for the presidency and isn't really a corrupt and lying felon. If only you had evidence that either was true that you could share here.  

No body here denies Trump's crauss and childish rhetoric. How he rambles about nothing and feeds the demorats first hand material daily. 

However you will not even consider Biden has any cognitive decline. Makes it seem you are overcompensating..... 

toomuchbaloney said:

Sure. Biden shows signs of dementia in exactly the same way his opponent shows his stable genius.  

Your statements are confused.  First you say he WILL pardon his son should he be convicted then you say IF. 

Then you go on to repeat the right wing claim about Joe discussing Hunter's business even though Hunter's partners and business associates said that was nonsense.  Funny how house Republicans didn't want any of that testimony in an open hearing. Nevertheless, it is apparently just sufficient to speculate about Joe's crimes for Trump voters to repeat those claims as if there is evidence to support them.  

You want to believe so badly that Biden will pardon Hunter just like you want to believe that a Trump is a reasonable option for the presidency and isn't really a corrupt and lying felon. If only you had evidence that either was true that you could share here.  

We all know of grandma who shows signs if dementia all day but when the family takes her to the  Dr. She's sharp as a whip and breezes through her cognitive exam. 

Only to find she's wearing her bra and underwear over her pants and shirt the next day. 

I think this fits with Biden's moments of clarity....