President Biden thread

toomuchbaloney · Oct 3, 2022

3 hours ago, Tweety said:

Not to mention that Hunter Biden is already under federal investigation already, starting in 2018. I guess not good enough and not enough dirt or smoking gun yet. It is a bit maddening the pace.

But to be fair Democrats have had their fair share of congressional investigations.

Congress is supposed to have hearings. The hearings aren't generally as obviously attached to partisan campaigns and narratives as the Benghazi hearings. Republicans even spoke the quiet parts out loud in that 2016 election cycle. The Republicans no longer even try to pretend that their intentions are honorable rather than politically motivated, they don't have to because their voting base cannot discern the difference and there aren't any negative consequences for them abusing government in that way.

Beerman, BSN · Oct 4, 2022

Who knew?

"President Biden told an audience in Puerto Rico Monday that “I was sort of raised in the Puerto Rican community at home, politically” — despite the fact that only about 2,000 people of Puerto Rican ancestry lived in Delaware when he was launching his career five decades ago."

https://nypost.com/2022/10/03/biden-claims-he-was-raised-in-the-puerto-rican-community/

Beerman, BSN · Oct 5, 2022

"Tony Bobulinski was interrupted while he was being interviewed by the FBI, 11 days before the 2020 presidential election, by a mysterious phone call from the president’s brother, Jim Biden, who may have suspected that his business partner was threatening Joe Biden’s candidacy by dishing the dirt on his family’s China deals.

The missed phone call at 1:37 p.m. October 23, 2020, came as Bobulinski was telling two FBI agents that Joe Biden stood to earn a 10% cut of his son Hunter and brother Jim’s lucrative joint venture with Chinese energy firm CEFC."

https://nypost.com/2022/10/04/hunter-biden-defrauded-me-jim-biden-called-me-during-fbi-interview-ex-biz-partner/

Tweety, BSN, RN · Oct 5, 2022

7 hours ago, Beerman said:

"Tony Bobulinski was interrupted while he was being interviewed by the FBI, 11 days before the 2020 presidential election, by a mysterious phone call from the president’s brother, Jim Biden, who may have suspected that his business partner was threatening Joe Biden’s candidacy by dishing the dirt on his family’s China deals.

The missed phone call at 1:37 p.m. October 23, 2020, came as Bobulinski was telling two FBI agents that Joe Biden stood to earn a 10% cut of his son Hunter and brother Jim’s lucrative joint venture with Chinese energy firm CEFC."

https://nypost.com/2022/10/04/hunter-biden-defrauded-me-jim-biden-called-me-during-fbi-interview-ex-biz-partner/

This is recent but not new news. Thibault was under fire a couple of months ago. Not sure why the NYP wants to bring it up again and spin it but I guess because the "ex-biz-partner" is doing the interview circuit.

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Timothy Thibault, a top-level FBI agent who had been under fire for his role in investigations regarding President Biden's son, Hunter Biden, resigned late last week and was walked out of the FBI, two U.S. officials confirmed. But these officials also said that Thibault had reached retirement age, and they added that all of those who retire hand over their badge and gun and are escorted out of the building.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-fbi-agent-timothy-thibault-resigns/

Like I said in an earlier post Hunter Biden has been under investigation since 2018 and I can agree the investigation is maddeningly slow.

Beerman, BSN · Oct 5, 2022

20 minutes ago, Tweety said:

This is recent but not new news. Thibault was under fire a couple of months ago. Not sure why the NYP wants to bring it up again and spin it.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-fbi-agent-timothy-thibault-resigns/

Like I said in an earlier post Hunter Biden has been under investigation since 2018 and I can agree the investigation is maddeningly slow.

They brought it up because Bobulinski gave an interview to Tucker Carlson that aired Tuesday. Information that came strait from him. It's hard to believe that some of that wasn't new to you.

Of course, if you didn't realize why they ran the article in the first place, it seems maybe you didn't read much of it.

And, not sure what the "spin" is?

Tweety, BSN, RN · Oct 5, 2022

4 minutes ago, Beerman said:

They brought it up because Bobulinski gave an interview to Tucker Carlson that aired Tuesday. Information that came strait from him. It's hard to believe much if that wasn't new to you.

Of course, if you didn't realize why they ran the article in the first place, it seems maybe you didn't read much of it.

And, not sure what the "spin" is?

I stand corrected that perhaps there is no spin. You're correct in that I didn't read it. I only skimmed it because my respect for NYP and Tucker Carlson on a scale of 1 to 10 is .1. Which is why I went to other sources for the story and deemed it nothing new because it was being written about months ago when republicans brought it up and the FBI agent "resigned".

I'm not saying they are wrong but Carlson and NYP are trying to keep it forefront in people's minds during the election cycle.

Beerman, BSN · Oct 5, 2022

2 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I stand corrected that perhaps there is no spin. You're correct in that I didn't read it. I only skimmed it because my respect for NYP and Tucker Carlson on a scale of 1 to 10 is .1. Which is why I went to other sources for the story and deemed it nothing new because it was being written about months ago when republicans brought it up and the FBI agent "resigned".

I'm not saying they are wrong but Carlson and NYP are trying to keep it forefront in people's minds during the election cycle.

If Joe was taking cuts off of Hunter and Jim's foreign business deals, and the FBI was or is covering for it, I would consider that newsworthy.

"The fact pattern is the FBI alone altered history in that election.” -Bobulinski

You mentioned something in another post about Republicans launching investigations when they take over the House and how a federal investigation must not be good enough for them. Well, there ya go.

I have issues with both Carlson and the NYP. But, like you said, that doesn't mean they're wrong. We already know who was right on the Hunter laptop story, and it wasn't your respected news outlets.

Tweety, BSN, RN · Oct 5, 2022

22 minutes ago, Beerman said:

If Joe was taking cuts off of Hunter and Jim's foreign business deals, and the FBI was or is covering for it, I would consider that newsworthy.

"The fact pattern is the FBI alone altered history in that election.” -Bobulinski

You mentioned something in another post about Republicans launching investigations when they take over the House and how a federal investigation must not be good enough for them. Well, there ya go.

I have issues with both Carlson and the NYP. But, like you said, that doesn't mean they're wrong. We already know who was right on the Hunter laptop story, and it wasn't your respected news outlets.

I didn't say it wasn't newsworthy, I was saying it wasn't new news.

That Hunter Biden profited of his father's VP and that Biden also profited from his son's profits is not a new accusation.

That the FBI undercover this and covered it up would indeed be criminal but also was a story covered a few months ago.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/04/fbi-thibault-cover-up-hunter-biden-information-00049922

You do make the point that it should be looked into further and perhaps his "resignation" isn't good enough. His resignation is telling that something was amiss there.

I will allow the opinion that "the fact pattern is the FBI alone altered history in that election" but not quite buy into it just yet. That's just one person talking.

I have always been a seeker of truth even if it destroys my world view. Show me the proof.

toomuchbaloney · Oct 5, 2022

Proof seems to be a stumbling block for a majority of claims heard or read from conservative voices. They have lots of strong beliefs though.

Tweety, BSN, RN · Oct 5, 2022

6 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Proof seems to be a stumbling block for a majority of claims heard or read from conservative voices. They have lots of strong beliefs though.

They have good reason to be suspicious of Hunter Biden.

But when they say the election was stolen, the media wanted a more populous area like Tampa hit by Ian, and other stuff that is clearly made up, it's hard to take them seriously.

toomuchbaloney · Oct 5, 2022

57 minutes ago, Tweety said:

They have good reason to be suspicious of Hunter Biden.

But when they say the election was stolen, the media wanted a more populous area like Tampa hit by Ian, and other stuff that is clearly made up, it's hard to take them seriously.

They don't have good reason to spread conspiracy theories and wild claims but that doesn't hinder them. They have little in the way of credibility at this point. But, sure, their narrow and politically motivated suspicions are founded in "good reason" even though they seem completely unable to discern any corruption in Trump.

Beerman, BSN · Oct 5, 2022

1 hour ago, Tweety said:

They have good reason to be suspicious of Hunter Biden.

But when they say the election was stolen, the media wanted a more populous area like Tampa hit by Ian, and other stuff that is clearly made up, it's hard to take them seriously.

You always mention Hunter, but often leave out Joe. No one cares if it is just about Hunter. Joe's part in it all is what is concerning.

DeSantis' statement maybe over the top. But, not by much.

First off, media really goes crazy over weather these days. Bad weather is ratings and clicks. In my parts, if a simple storm is coming and youre watching a local station, you'd think the blizzard of the century is coming. So, ftom a business standpoint, the media doesn't mind destruction and tragedia.

Add to that, the governor who is a likely Republican presidential candidate that reminds the media cabal of Trump. No doubt they want him to fail. The more destruction and tragedy there was, the easier it would be to create that narrative.

Remember "never let a crisis go to waste"?