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Wow.  No one has started such a thread yet?

After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days,  apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.

Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week,  by the end of April.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-02-09/bidens-goal-for-school-reopenings-suddenly-became-more-attainable

 

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47 minutes ago, Tweety said:

They took it the same way most of us did...by laughing at and mocking the people who thought it was worthy of discussion.  

52 minutes ago, subee said:

I listened to a professor on NPR within the past few days who, even though constructing polls is his specialty, thought that perhaps the times for polls has past.  Too many people just lie.  I always find them an insult to my intellegence.  We might as well trust the I Ching to make predictions.

Intetesting timing of such a interview.

"(CNN)One year out from the 2022 midterm elections, 58% of Americans say President Joe Biden hasn't paid enough attention to the nation's most important problems, as a majority disapproves of the way he's handling his job as President, according to a new CNN Poll conducted by SSRS."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/08/politics/cnn-poll-biden-job-approval/index.html

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11 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Intetesting timing of such a interview.

"(CNN)One year out from the 2022 midterm elections, 58% of Americans say President Joe Biden hasn't paid enough attention to the nation's most important problems, as a majority disapproves of the way he's handling his job as President, according to a new CNN Poll conducted by SSRS."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/08/politics/cnn-poll-biden-job-approval/index.html

That's interesting although I wouldn't typically use CNN as a resource.  I suspect that most Americans depend upon their cable media content and social media "news" tidbits to inform themselves.  As a result, Americans only know about Biden's agenda what their media tells them about that agenda.  As we've seen in these threads, a good portion of that media consumed by political and social conservatives is driven by emotional and fabricated animus and nonsense...like flatulence or wars on Christmas. As Dr Dunning would say, they don't know what they don't know. 

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1 hour ago, subee said:

I listened to a professor on NPR within the past few days who, even though constructing polls is his specialty, thought that perhaps the times for polls has past.  Too many people just lie.  I always find them an insult to my intellegence.  We might as well trust the I Ching to make predictions.

As far as making predictions go, I would say you might be right. You can't predict how things will go just based on disapproval ratings.  Obama was incredibly unpopular and won the election.  Trump won despite many polls disapproving of him.

Still, when poll after poll after poll is showing disapproval of Biden, that would seem to negate the statistical probability that people are lying about it.

Also, you have to consider that some of those answering disapproval are on the far left who disapprove of him not getting their agenda through.

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I might add that in the days of "Let's Go Brandon" it doesn't matter to some people even if they approve of something that they would give a positive response.  

The infrastructure for example.  Florida is pondering how to spend the billions we are to get but you won't hear any republicans expressing approval.  It's socialism and to MTG it's communism.  

Also, when asked the question "do you think the country is headed in the right direction" I would answer no.  I've answered this way probably for decades now.  Were destroying ourselves with pollution, poor health, inequality, the shackles the 1% has on us, religious dogma, on and on.   Biden hasn't eased my mind.

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I think the country has made a major course correction. Just as a large ship can’t suddenly stop and pivot, neither can a country. And it didn’t help that the transition couldn’t start until Inauguration Day. Capable people are now department heads. Tens of millions are vaccinated, wages are up, unemployment is down, the stock market is up. Awareness of climate change is rising and the infrastructure bill has finally passed. 
I frankly don’t give a hoot about ratings polls. I think it’s just an invented issue so the pundits have one more thing to wring their hands about.

 

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https://www.brookings.edu/articles/polling-public-opinion-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/

It's best not to get too caught up in polling hysteria.  

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Public opinion is an illusive commodity. Attempts to measure it, as Samuel Popkin argues in The Reasoning Voter, will perforce reveal inconsistency and change. These problems arise, Popkin insists, not because the public is insufficiently educated, informed, or motivated. “Ambivalence is simply an immutable fact of life.” As a consequence, citizens use information shortcuts when making decisions in the political arena-with new and personal information driving out the old and impersonal. With the public lacking fixed preferences on many issues, political actors have ample incentive to supply those shortcuts in ways that might broaden support for themselves and the policies they champion.

 

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

As we've seen in these threads, a good portion of that media consumed by political and social conservatives is driven by emotional and fabricated animus and nonsense...like flatulence or wars on Christmas. 

More bloviating from your isolated outpost about conservatives and your skewed opinion on their media choices.

I had not heard of the flatuance story until in was mentioned here.  And with a quick Google search, I don't see much mention of it on any of the bigger media sources, including Fox.

If it wasn't for Camila Parker Bowels talking if it, we probably never would have heard of it from anywhere.

 

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46 minutes ago, Beerman said:

More bloviating from your isolated outpost about conservatives and your skewed opinion on their media choices.

I had not heard of the flatuance story until in was mentioned here.  And with a quick Google search, I don't see much mention of it on any of the bigger media sources, including Fox.

If it wasn't for Camila Parker Bowels talking if it, we probably never would have heard of it from anywhere.

 

Anywhere except right wing media...you know the type of stuff some conservative AN members obviously consume.  

47 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Anywhere except right wing media...you know the type of stuff some conservative AN members obviously consume.  

I assume I'm one of those AN members you speak of.  I just said I hadn't heard of it until it was mentioned here.  And, other than one NY Post story, I don't see it mentioned on any common right wing media sources.  And you haven't provided any.

Some AN members would be better served to remain quiet and move on, but instead they further prove my point because they are unable to help themselves.

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23 minutes ago, Beerman said:

I assume I'm one of those AN members you speak of.  I just said I hadn't heard of it until it was mentioned here.  And, other than one NY Post story, I don't see it mentioned on any common right wing media sources.  And you haven't provided any.

Some AN members would be better served to remain quiet and move on, but instead they further prove my point because they are unable to help themselves.

Why would you want to assume that you are consuming extreme right wing media content? Do you find yourself posting and sharing social media culture war nonsense or content from inaccurate, biased and inflammatory media or agreeing with obvious propaganda? I didn't post the crazy information so I don't need to source it for you...but a search does reveal what type media thought it important to cover the information.  Apparently that's the quality of information consumed by our Canadian member, she brought it to the thread with great amusement. She did indicate that she couldn't help herself, I think. 

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Speaking of Christmas, and grammar aside "House Republicans" tweeted

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This is the guys who is trying to steal Christmas. Americans are NOT going to let that happen.

with a picture of Biden.  Because of course Christmas is all about being able to get your kid presents.

Fox began this a few weeks ago with Hannity portraying Biden as the Grinch Who Stole Christmas.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/why-christmas-2021-already-ruined.html

I'm not sure what Biden policies caused the supply chain problem, other than having a booming economy, but it is speculated that vaccine mandates may make a bad situation worse.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/26/business/vaccine-mandate-biden-raytheon/index.html

Meanwhile Republican Senator Lummis is offering up some advice.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/03/supply-chain-crisis-gop-sen-lummis-tells-biden-to-ditch-covid-vaccine-mandate.html

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