Kind of a weird situation, but I was at a party this weekend and (don't ask me why) the subject of shaving came up. One of the ladies is a hairdresser who does bikini and Brazilian waxes, and she said that she had a bunch of coworkers ask her to do Brazilians for them when they were pregnant because "the doctor/midwife told them to shave before the delivery".
???
I thought that pubic shaving before delivery went out of style 20-30 years ago. I even challenged this woman, asking if it wasn't just that these women were self-conscious and *chose* to be "bald" for their deliveries, rather than being "told to" do it by their OB/CNM. When I had my son 10 years ago, there was never any mention whatsoever about shaving from my midwife -- they didn't even shave me for my c-section. Another woman at the party has a 17yo and a 7yo and she was never told to shave by her OB. (all of these births happened in the same town, which only has two hospitals)
When I had knee surgery five years ago, I was very specifically told NOT to shave my leg for a week prior to the surgery, to minimize the chance of infection / microabrasions. I really did NOT want to go in there like a cactus, but at least I could understand the reasoning behind it.
I just truly cannot wrap my mind around this situation... it boggles my mind that anyone in this day and age would consider it "standard" or "necessary" to be shaved/waxed prior to the delivery. I know that more women than ever are shaving/waxing (pregnant or not) just as a personal grooming choice. A guy at the party said his stepmother has been an L&D nurse for eons and she had remarked a while back that shaving has become much more popular in the past 3-4 years.
But I just can't believe that there are OBs (and midwives! I *really* had a hard time believing that a CNM would say this!) out there telling women who are 8-9 months pregnant that they need to shave off their pubic hair before coming to the hospital, or else the hospital will shave it off when they get there.
I figure if anyone will know, it will be you folks here... is this really a standard procedure anymore???
My email blew up with responses to this thread. I think you women are misunderstanding how it works, atleast in my case. I never coerced my wife into doing anything. I rewarded her with...uh...attention she wanted when she did groom. Kind of like when you are a kid and you're told "behave and you'll get ice cream later." She's only too happy to groom.
Specializes in Cardio-Pulmonary; Med-Surg; Private Duty.
I used to work as a bank teller, which meant pantyhose EVERY DAY!
And being a rather "fluffy" person who is also "vertically challenged", in order to get them big enough to fit over my hips meant that I had the worst case of baggy saggy elephant-skin ankles you ever did see! (Newsflash to the pantyhose industry -- not everyone has an ideal height/weight ratio!)
I feel for you having to wear them every day. I am of average weight and height, but they still don't fit me well. I have largish thighs compared to the rest of my body... The crotch always lands mid thigh and then for some reason the top of the panty hose would go up over my breasts if pulled all the way up. If I found ones to fit in the thigh, I would get the saggy ankles, too.
Ok . . . . just got off the phone with my daughter who called me to complain.
She works at Burger King (she's in college). Today a carfull of black young men ("American Black men mom") drove up to the drive thru and started using the "N" word over and over along with other profanity. My daughter was angry but of course couldn't say anything. She said "Mom, I hang around with a group of Ethiopian and Jamaican guys and they never say that word and hate that word. What is wrong with American guys?".
I told her about this thread - she said "Well, mom it IS generational (the grooming) and I don't think anything of it". So I read her some of our "1970's mentality" comments. She said she understood and actually agrees that it CAN be a sign of control. But then she said her generation of women - not all - but a lot - ASK for it. She said "They are dirty ***** (edited . . oh dear I got bleeped) . . .. . . they sleep around and can't even remember the guy's name or what they did or where they did it. They get plastered and let any guy do it to them. My generation is disgusting".
In further questioning about "grooming" she said she had never been "waxed" and neither had many of her friends - they just shave because they don't want it to hurt.
My email blew up with responses to this thread. I think you women are misunderstanding how it works, atleast in my case. I never coerced my wife into doing anything. I rewarded her with...uh...attention she wanted when she did groom. Kind of like when you are a kid and you're told "behave and you'll get ice cream later." She's only too happy to groom.
ohhhh - you're in trouble again. "Behave"??? Your email is gonna explode! :)
i'm not quite sure if you think we should be sheep or obedient children...
as a child of the sixties, who was reared to be my own person by two excellent role models, i married a warm, loving, caring man who does not think i need to be led around, guided, or rewarded with an ice cream cone or a new hat (a la lucy or ethel) if i am a "good girl" and obey my master. the day he tells me i must or should shave or wax my nether regions to appear sexier to him is the same day he can go take a flying leap. god made the adult me with pubic hair for a reason. i am not nine anymore. am i also expected to bind my d cup breasts too, so i'll appear more childlike?:eek::eek:
aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrruuuuuuggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!
btw, our wedding vows did not mention the word "obey" anywhere. they said "love, honor and cherish"
instead, and that phrase has been a foundation of our marriage.:redpinkhe
My email blew up with responses to this thread. I think you women are misunderstanding how it works, atleast in my case. I never coerced my wife into doing anything. I rewarded her with...uh...attention she wanted when she did groom. Kind of like when you are a kid and you're told "behave and you'll get ice cream later." She's only too happy to groom.
So ... in other words ... you withhold your sexual favors from her unless she conforms to your ideal of a pre-pubescent appearance? Do I have that right? :p:p
Specializes in Medsurg/ICU, Mental Health, Home Health.
So ... in other words ... you withhold your sexual favors from her unless she conforms to your ideal of a pre-pubescent appearance? Do I have that right? :p:p
Objection. Leading the witness.
(See, John, I'm even willing to stick up for you...a little bit, at least. But watch your step. :))
If I found ones to fit in the thigh, I would get the saggy ankles, too.
:p:p
John20
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My email blew up with responses to this thread. I think you women are misunderstanding how it works, atleast in my case. I never coerced my wife into doing anything. I rewarded her with...uh...attention she wanted when she did groom. Kind of like when you are a kid and you're told "behave and you'll get ice cream later." She's only too happy to groom.