Pooping 1st Grader - UG

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I have a first grader in my school who is not fully toilet trained! Apparently this has been an issue since PK with this child. Mom doesn't bother to send a spare set of clothes because the child refuses to clean himself up. This is the root of problem. At home, mom wipes him after he has a BM, so if nobody is there to wipe him, he just goes in his pants and waits for someone to come to the school and clean him up. He refuses to do it himself. He told me flat out that he can't poop on the toilet because his mom needs to be there to wipe him. I've offered to allow him to use my bathroom and assist him and he refuses, it has to be mom. We are almost done with the year, and this is a 2-3 day a week issue. What's worse, is it takes 1-3 hours for someone to come to the school to change him. He thinks it's playtime, and wants to color or pretend play in my clinic the whole time.

The administrator came into the office yesterday and demanded he try to change himself, gave him a change of clothing and wipes and sent him into the restroom, he stood in there and cried for 30 minutes, never once attempting to do it.

I'm really at my wits end. The kid is a bit below his peers academically, but definitely able physically and psychologically to do this by himself.

Any ideas? Mom and sister claim they've "tried everything". I suggested sticking clothing and wipes in the bathroom, and making himself get cleaned up every time he does this. I believe eventually he'll decide it's easier to wipe himself than clean up after pooping his pants. But something tells me mom isn't willing to take the hard line here.

Specializes in School Nursing.

Thank you everyone for your thoughts. I am going to implement these ideas Monday. I'm am actually quite shocked that he hasn't been placed in 504 or SPED up until now. He has finally been referred for testing, but it's slow going. We also don't have a councilor or SW at our school. I don't think there is a dad in the picture.. the student has no problem with his sister or aunt coming and cleaning him up either. I'm not sure it's an abuse thing, but how can you be sure? I'll keep y'all updated.

Thank you everyone for your thoughts. I am going to implement these ideas Monday. I'm am actually quite shocked that he hasn't been placed in 504 or SPED up until now. He has finally been referred for testing, but it's slow going. We also don't have a councilor or SW at our school. I don't think there is a dad in the picture.. the student has no problem with his sister or aunt coming and cleaning him up either. I'm not sure it's an abuse thing, but how can you be sure? I'll keep y'all updated.

You can't be. That's why this needs to be brought to the table. It's not fair for you to be handling this alone, but it's MOSTLY not fair to this poor kid.

Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.
I have a first grader in my school who is not fully toilet trained!
And since the school year will be ending in three short months, you very well might have a second grader who isn't toilet trained.

This child's mother needs to snapped into reality...

Sounds like a very complex shituation to me too...

Shituation lol!

But yes there needs to be a team meeting for this child with a lot of therapy. Does he wear disposable briefs or pull-ups in the meantime?

how old is sis?

Is the child in public school? Where I live this poor kid would have been sent home everytime he soiled himself. The CST would have met right away, if only to save the school from being sued for taking SPED dollars and not providing service. I really hope the kid is getting help. but the whole thing is fishy...if it is true it leaves me sad and angry.

Specializes in school nursing, ortho, trauma.

so taking the fact that there may be a hx of abuse aside - because there may or may not - therapy would certainly be a good start. My recommendation for a parent that claims to have "tried everything" yet still neglects to send proper supplies or come to the school in a timely fashion when her child is soiled is to put more of the ownness on him. This goes beyond just handing him clothes and wipes and shutting the door - this means - either by the parent or with the parent's written consent getting the child to change - hand over hand if necessary then having the child clean up his mess. I'm not talking harsh detergents - just a little hand soap in the clothes and some water and scrub to get the point that he is big enough to manage this it won't really be enough to skip laundry - it's just there to create a task that the child doesn't enjoy doing as opposed to the activities that the child enjoys while waiting (the coloring, the games). If the child does have to wait - have his teacher send work - if he finishes it, have more work sent - get the teacher on board to have busy work at the ready. No more rewarding activities.

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