Updated: Nov 21, 2022 Published Nov 20, 2022
Angelasc
4 Posts
I'm a heart surgery nurse. Yesterday a very serious thing happened while I was working with a colleague who has just finished her internship. I trust her very much. But for the last couple of days she still has to be accompanied with meds. One patient was in a lot of pain, and my colleague took oxycontin 5mg extended release. She administered it, I just didn't check if he had already received it, because I thought she already checked. But in fact, he already took it at 12:00 and we gave her another one at 19:30. In the evening he developed a psychosis and wanted to go to another hospital. I didn't give the medicine but I signed with my colleague. Obviously the responsibility is mine because my colleague is not yet officially autonomous. I feel deeply guilty for not checking and I can't forgive myself. I don't know what to do, I can't do this profession anymore, I'm not attentive and intelligent enough. But I really need support and I can't talk without crying
Davey Do
10,608 Posts
To err is human, and to forgive, even yourself, is Devine.
Nearly 8 hours between oxy doses isn't all that bad. Sure, it's a med error, but we've all made them. I've given a couple of back-to-back benzos in error, followed protocol, and have lived to tell the tale.
Learn from this and move on.
The best to you.
Emergent, RN
4,278 Posts
It's better to be more vague and less specific when posting sensitive things like this. Also, I hope that's not your real name or the real name of anybody you know.
JBMmom, MSN, NP
4 Articles; 2,537 Posts
As already mentioned, a 5 mg dose is unlikely to cause serious adverse effects when administered almost 8 hours apart. Acknowledge the mistake with the appropriate people, like your manager, and don't let it get to you too much. And in the future, please change your name when posting online, you are safest posting about work experiences in an anonymous capacity.
LovingLife123
1,592 Posts
What was the frequency of dosing? Usually oxy is given 4-6 hours. 7.5 hours later of 5mg is not going to induce psychosis.
The hospital environment itself is going to cause psychosis in some people. Going days on end with little sleep causes psychosis especially in the elderly.
You are way overthinking this and being too hard on yourself.
JKL33
6,953 Posts
1 hour ago, LovingLife123 said: Usually oxy is given 4-6 hours.
Usually oxy is given 4-6 hours.
ER q 12. But yes it's doubtful that the error, getting an extra 5 mg ER, is the direct cause of the psychosis.
7 hours ago, Angelasc said: I feel deeply guilty for not checking and I can't forgive myself. I don't know what to do, I can't do this profession anymore, I'm not attentive and intelligent enough. But I really need support and I can't talk without crying
I feel deeply guilty for not checking and I can't forgive myself. I don't know what to do, I can't do this profession anymore, I'm not attentive and intelligent enough. But I really need support and I can't talk without crying
I'm sorry you are feeling so badly about this. What's important here is recognizing that something happened and making note of what to do differently next time. Then let it go. I hope you will not take this the wrong way but I admit I have really mixed feelings when I read comments like yours above. All the guilt and the self deprecation is so unfortunate, and truly it is not appropriate. I do mean that sincerely and am not chastising you, just want you to understand that this small incident is not who you are as a person or a nurse so the idea of being so dumb and careless that you should quit nursing instead of moving on and helping more patients becomes a little dramatic at some point.
What's worse, this type of reaction unfortunately seems to make nurses who react this way very easy targets for criticism from peers and admins--I don't know why but it's a phenomenon I've observed repeatedly. Strictly my opinion here, but the best thing to do is to acknowledge something went wrong then MOVE ON; do it differently next time. That is all.
All is okay with you. Keep your chin up and go on helping more patients. ???
mtmkjr, BSN
529 Posts
On 11/20/2022 at 7:29 PM, LovingLife123 said: What was the frequency of dosing? Usually oxy is given 4-6 hours. 7.5 hours later of 5mg is not going to induce psychosis. The hospital environment itself is going to cause psychosis in some people. Going days on end with little sleep causes psychosis especially in the elderly. You are way overthinking this and being too hard on yourself.
She said Oxycontin, given Q12h.
But 5 mg is a really small dose
juliefin1, MSN, NP
2 Posts
Just a few thoughts...
agree with the others who mentioned acknowledge it, learn from it, but move on and don't let it be all consuming.
Also, I believe Oxycodone ER comes in 10 mg as the smallest dose so is it possible it was regular oxycodone? Even if it wasn't, this is not a crazy high dose. Could it have contributed to his delirium a bit? Yes, but so could just one 5 mg dose in the right patient and it is far more likely the delirium cause was multifactorial. You mentioned it is a surgery floor- if he had recent surgery that and exposure to anesthesia along with several other things likely caused his issue.
Finally, if you are struggling on an ongoing basis with the feelings you described, I would recommend talking with someone in your organization's Employee Assistance Program (EAP). The last few years have been hard years to be a nurse and our EAP colleagues can be a great source of helping us explore why we are responding a certain way and how to better cope with the difficulties our jobs bring. Best wishes to you!
On 11/22/2022 at 9:35 PM, mtmkjr said: She said Oxycontin, given Q12h. But 5 mg is a really small dose
I’ve read it like 12 times and could find where she stated q12.
3 minutes ago, LovingLife123 said: I’ve read it like 12 times and could find where she stated q12.
I should have worded it differently:
She said she gave oxycontin not oxycodone.
(oxycontin is typically ordered Q12, and 5mg is the smallest dose)
1 hour ago, LovingLife123 said: I’ve read it like 12 times and could find where she stated q12.
She didn't, she said OxyContin (controlled release form of the generic/oxycodone) which is q12. ETA: as noted by poster above, if it was 5 mg pretty good chance it was IR anyway.
Fun fact: One of my only (known) nursing errors involved these two and was a misunderstanding of the naming of these. Thought I was giving IR doses appropriately all night, kept giving them cause patient still having pain. Toward shift change went to get yet another dose and realized I had been giving ER form all night, no wonder they didn't get very timely pain relief. I reported myself (to at least a few people and apologized to the patient) and, since it was back in the good old days, I was told this was bound to happen and Pyxis appearance/labeling was changed to include the IR or ER and make it actually visible on the screen. And that was the end of it.
Sorry if I didn't answer, I didn't want to think about it anymore. I still feel very guilty en down. I'm trying to be more careful, I can't take another mistake like this again. Thanks everyone for the replies, they helped me a lot.