Okay, why do ER nurses think they're so cool?

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I get it, we on the floor don't see what you see- gunshots, knife cuts, fights, rape victims. But you chose that. Nursing is a wide, varied profession and ER is just a piece of it. So you work with firefighters, paramedics, police. Okay. But you're not a firefighter, paramedic or a police officer. You're a nurse. When you call the floor for report and we say we're too busy right now, we'll call you back, please don't call your boss, or the House Supervisor, and tell them we refused report. Again, I get it. Nobody is as busy as you. But we may have had our hands deep in poop, or in the middle of a dressing change, or with a doctor, or administering chemotherapy. Or we may be already getting report from the offgoing shift. And yes, another nurse is just as busy and can't take the report I would rather get first hand anyway. When we get report from you for a hip fracture patient and you say the BP is 191/92 and she has a history of hypertension, please don't get offended if I ask if you've covered the blood pressure. I know she's being admitted with a hip fracture and not for hypertension. But hypertension is something we're aware of, because it is also bad. If you send the patient up without covering the BP, by the time she's moved from gurney to bed that BP has spiked to over 200 and I have a possible stroke to add to that fracture. Will it kill you to walk over to your MD, the one with whom you enjoy a closer relationship, and ask for some Vasotec? And while you're at it, could you not forget some pain meds before you send the patient to the floor? You see, I have to call the admitting MD, that very MD your doctor just spoke with to admit the patient, and wait until he calls back, before I can give any medications. That can and does take hours. Meanwhile I have an increasingly uncomfortable, unstable patient and a family who is getting very concerned that this new nurse can't help their mother.

I'm sorry for the long post, but I just read another Megalomaniac ER blog slamming floor nurses as stupid and lazy, refusing report, fighting with ER because they're uncomfortable taking unstable patients ER wants to move because they need the beds. There is more than just you, ER.

Specializes in CCU, CVICU, Cath Lab, MICU, Endoscopy..
I know this is off topic...but what is the steriotype of labor and delivery nurses? :o

Well....I was thinking just like the movies...you know where the woman screams to the top of her lungs and poof! The baby is born.....LOL

We are all nurses. We should band together and support each other regardless of what area we work in. We have all made the choice to work where we do. The rivalry, paired with eating our young, causes all the tension that is unnecessary. Someone has to do the areas we each find unglamourous- so let's just support each other and realize that everyone has their own battles where they work!!

I think your sentiment is good...but in ALL professions there are pecking orders. While in school for social work, guess who is on the bottom of the pile ? Those who work with elders...and that is my passion. I LOVE working with elders even though 89% of my class wanted to work with children and "at risk" youth.

Plus...I am not impressed with social work one iota..I think I may want to go back to school for nursing but I am afraid of a couple of things.

Well....I was thinking just like the movies...you know where the woman screams to the top of her lungs and poof! The baby is born.....LOL

I do know after two children the nurses in the delivery room do all the work and the doctors get all the credit! Of course my "babies" are not "babies" they are 13 and 17 years old. :lol2:

Easy? I'm not even going to dignify that with a response except to say that it is one of the most disrespectful things I've ever heard from a fellow nurse.

Exactly the drama I'm talking about!

Alright. Allow me restate this in a hopefully less "offensive" way. I have worked in E.R.s for a few years. In my experience it is easy COMPARED TO floor nursing. I did not say it was EASY, easy is a comparitive term. Like, "walk in the park". It's not a LITERAL walk in the park, but it's a metaphor.

I'm not attempting to be condescending, and obviously, there are exceptions to EVERY SITUATION. But, I meant, for the most part, in my experience, it's EASIER, than floor nursing. Some circumstances, some days may find it much harder than floor nursing, some circumstances, some days find it much easier than floor nursing.

If you think I'm wrong, why be offended? What's so disrespectful about an opinion anyway? I didn't demean your ability! O.K.

Thanks, leave the drama for the E.R., it provides great entertainment.

Seriously, let's not exaggerate here. I highly doubt that anyone was talking about waiting only 5 minutes, but it's rarely ever JUST 5 minutes. I start my shift at 17:00 and can't tell you how often I've tried to give report between then and 18:00, only to be put off so long that my pt doesn't get to the floor until 20:00 or later because the floor nurse never "had time" to take report before 19:00, and then I had to wait for the oncoming nurse to finish getting report from the nurse going home.

You all can be as denigrating as you want to be of ED nurses, but this attitude only hurts the pts who have been waiting for hours to get to a room, and puts other pts in jeopardy if they can't be adequately cared for due to the lack of an ED room or appropriate attention from the nurse.

You start your shift at meal time, did you think about that? I'm not saying it's one departments fault, you need to look at it from both sides. So the patients we already have on the floor should take a lower priority than those that are coming up from the ED? Even if there is urgent nursing attention needed elsewhere?

Specializes in ED, ICU, MS/MT, PCU, CM, House Sup, Frontline mgr.
i know this is off topic...but what is the steriotype of labor and delivery nurses? :o

this is off topic, but i will respond. :p

at one hospital i worked the term for the l&d nurses by the other nurses was, the princesses-of-nursing. i highly disagree. there are some bad and good nurses in l&d just as it is the case in any other specialty.

back on topic,

i get the op's point, however the nurses are not giving you less information or bugging you to take a patient because he/she thinks that he/she is cooler then you. in fact, er nurses have very little say in actually caring for his/her patients prior to transfer. he/she is pressured to get his/her patients up no matter how it gets done and is penalized for not doing it fast (note: i left out efficiency because er nurses are not penalized for not covering all the bases... management emphasizes that this is the job of the floor nurses... icu, or, med surg, etc...) thus in my experience i have seen nurses who are not quick and who are not very experienced in the er tend to drop the ball in most areas during a transfer and think it is "ok". in fact the only time i have seen experienced nurses behave this way is when management insists that he/she behaves this way through penalizing them on his/her time management.

therefore, the environment, organized chaos + lousy management combine to make it difficult for an er nurse to cover all the things one patient needs prior to admission.... this of course puts a strain on the med surg and other specialty nurses... however, those of us who are grown up (and/or worked other floors) know that there is nothing better about a rn that works one specialty over a rn that works another. we all work hard, for long hours, and many times for lousy pay and short-staffed!:twocents:

bs (the name, not the expletive)...seriously, is this for real???

anyways, i can see that name-calling and disdain, isn't ltd. to er nurses.

thank you for making my point.:)

leslie

You're quite welcome, I think I picked it up from my E.R. years- unfortunatly it hasn't worn off yet. :lol2:

Seriously, I think name-calling and disdain are strong words. Look we all know "those" nurses. No matter what specialty. It's just been my experience that most I've met were E.R. nurses. I KNOW THAT'S NOT EVERYONE'S EXPERIENCE! Just mine. I've never claimed to be the one who KNOWS ALL, nor does my experience define a specialty. I'm just one opinion in the whole picture. I'm not claiming anything but my opinion. I'm also kind of upset that my hospital staffs the E.R. with more nurses than any other Dept. (Perhaps maybe I've had it easier than most ED nurses- oh well, I'm catching it on the floors now.)

Specializes in Peri-Op.
You start your shift at meal time, did you think about that? I'm not saying it's one departments fault, you need to look at it from both sides. So the patients we already have on the floor should take a lower priority than those that are coming up from the ED? Even if there is urgent nursing attention needed elsewhere?

:confused::uhoh3:yeah, your right, MEAL TIME is much more important than having patients that need urgent or acute care sitting in a waiting room because the ER is backed up.... Or the patient in the ambulance that has to drive another 30 minutes while having a stroke or a heart attack because the ER is on diversion since it was MEAL TIME upstairs and the nurses on the unit cant take 3-5 minutes of time to take report.... Dont try and kid yourselves, do your job, take report and get your next patients.... quit sandbagging with silly excuses/comments like "its meal time"

:confused::uhoh3:yeah, your right, MEAL TIME is much more important than having patients that need urgent or acute care sitting in a waiting room because the ER is backed up.... Or the patient in the ambulance that has to drive another 30 minutes while having a stroke or a heart attack because the ER is on diversion since it was MEAL TIME upstairs and the nurses on the unit cant take 3-5 minutes of time to take report.... Dont try and kid yourselves, do your job, take report and get your next patients.... quit sandbagging with silly excuses/comments like "its meal time"

No one picks on him for his sarcasm! lol

Just sayin-

Specializes in Developmental Disabilites,.

It is not the 3-5 mins it takes to get report. Its the 1 hr it takes when that pt hits the floor. We all have different priorities. For the ER nurse it is to get the pt to a unit as quick as possible. For me it is make sure that my other pts will be ok while I get that new admit. No that does not mean spoon feeding a pt but it does mean that none of my other pts need immediate intervention. We all need to have a little more respect for each other. And maybe an admit team.

Specializes in med-surg.

Kudos, my dear. I am a M/S nurse who dare anyone to walk in my shoes too. I volunteer to float ER anytime. ER to is very convenient MS floor with MD around to attend your need, no waiting for pharmacy, no phone call necessary with less patient. what is the percentage of real emergency that came to the ER? anyone know in a given night. I will tell you one thing a M/S nurse can survive anywhere. ER ICU pacu bring it on. we will have plenty time to focus.

I have a really good relationship with most of the ER nurses that I work with (I'm that med surg nurse who always goes to the ER when they call ( I'm in a very small hospital) ). But every once and a while they feel the need to tell me how cool they are in way that puts down M/S nurses. I always smile and invite them to come work a shift with us so they can show us how it's done. Since they're the big bad Emergency nurses. Point made, because nobody ever takes me up on my offer.

Um, did you consider that maybe they just didn't want it.

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