The Circumcision Discussion - page 46
I know this can be a HUGE debate, and I'm not looking to start any arguments. I was just wondering as you are OB nurses. I'm expecting a boy in July and not sure if we should circ. or not. My... Read More
Jun 25, '07Occupation: RN!! WOOT! Specialty: Cardiac/telemetry ; Joined: Oct '05; Posts: 978; Likes: 382Quote from stevielynnI agree. I saw my first circ last week (I'm a nursing student) and the baby was strapped down and he was given a pacifier dipped in grape water to soothe him a bit. The doc who performed it, used lidocane (sp?) as a local anesthetic. The baby cried and screamed, but after a while, was fine and easily consoled.As to your question . . . most docs use anesthesia but we have one here who refuses. And he doesn't always tell the parents that.
You need to be proactive and tell the doc what you want. He is working for you.
Personally, I would have my baby have it. I think it would be better for him if it's done.
Jun 25, '07Joined: Mar '06; Posts: 7Quote from joeb1just a thought, how do the opposers feel about toddlers etc. getting their ears pierced. they obviously have the choice made for them/or at least did not know that it hurts. not to copare circs with ear piercing, im not doing that. i am for them and equally support those who opt out. i do see a better level of analgesia with the lido block. all our pediatricians do them. i seem to be the assist most of the time on these as i usually try to get assigned to he nursery. from my experience, at my hospital, it probably 80 percent
My son is not circ'ed, my daughters don't have piercings. Any of them can choose to have them done when they are old enough.
I wouldn't recommend a circ for him, though.
Jun 25, '07Joined: Mar '06; Posts: 7Quote from labcat01An uncircumzed male might not have problems at 2, 14, or 34, but when he's 80 and can't care for himself anymore it will BE a problem. So that's one of the reasons i'm for circs and it is my personal opinion.
My advice to anyone is to do your own research and make your own conclusions. Look at PEER-REVIEWED sources for literature (AAP, JAMA, Pediatrics, etc) don't go to alarmist websites as so many have directed you too. That isn't going to give you the information you need to make an informed decision.
Just my opinion
If you didn't wash his armpits, he'd get a nasty rash under there, why would you not wash ALL of him. I hope in 80 years when my son might need care that the nurses caring for him are competent. No reason why any nurse can't clean a patient COMPLETELY.
Jun 27, '07Joined: Nov '06; Posts: 20,715; Likes: 23,951I was talking to one of the residents this past weekend while she was doing circs (our OBs do them) and mentioned how much I hate them. She said, "If you think this is bad, you should see a vaginal c/section" (meaning a 4th degree lac). I told her "My issue is not the blood & guts. My issue is the unnecessary-procedure-on-a-nonconsenting-baby". She shut up.
Jun 27, '07Occupation: newborn nursery Specialty: 8 year(s) of experience in nursery, L and D ; Joined: Feb '07; Posts: 1,020; Likes: 341Quote from Arwen_UI was talking to one of the residents this past weekend while she was doing circs (our OBs do them) and mentioned how much I hate them. She said, "If you think this is bad, you should see a vaginal c/section" (meaning a 4th degree lac). I told her "My issue is not the blood & guts. My issue is the unnecessary-procedure-on-a-nonconsenting-baby". She shut up.
Jun 27, '07Joined: Nov '06; Posts: 20,715; Likes: 23,951Quote from crissrn27Just callin' it like I see it, ma'am.
Jun 27, '07Occupation: RN staff nurse/resource nurse Specialty: 10 year(s) of experience in L/D, antepartum, postpartum, nursery ; Joined: Jun '07; Posts: 4Where i work, we usually use emla and apply it one hour before circ time. We squeeze the emla into a red (preemie) bottle nipple and remove the plastic ring from the nipple....then place the nipple onto the penis and secure the diaper. It fits perfectly. We also use pacifiers or gloved fingers and sweet ease (sucrose solution) for pain control. Most of our babies hardly cry!!
Jul 2, '07Occupation: School Nurse RN/BSN Specialty: 19 year(s) of experience in Pediatric, Obstetrics, Public Health ; From: US ; Joined: Jul '07; Posts: 24; Likes: 20Quote from motorcycle mamaAwww! Congratulations on your little son and congrats for leaving him intact!I brought little doobie home from the hospital today and I couldn't put him through it. His little weenie will be just fine like it is, I figure.
I also am a nurse and couldn't see circumcising my son for cosmetic reasons. I've also witnessed my fair share of botched circ jobs, all at the hands of "experienced" physicians. I figure years of design by God/Mother Nature will work just fine!
Jul 5, '07Occupation: Professor of Nursing Specialty: Nurse Educator; Family Nursing ; From: US ; Joined: Mar '07; Posts: 1,306; Likes: 109The circumcision rate in the United States has dropped since the 1970's (HURRAH), see
Jul 5, '07Occupation: going back to work after almost 3 year hiatus. Specialty: telemetry, ICU ; From: US ; Joined: Feb '06; Posts: 14; Likes: 4I did not circ my son, he is 6 months old. So, far we have had no problems. I did research before he was born, as well as my husband did not want it to be done. The american cancer society states that they do not endorse circ for cancer preventative as well as the CDC does not support circ for prevention of hiv or any other sexually transmitted disease. according to the websites.
Why do we support circ of males and not of females they are equally barbaric, and so far I see no evidence to support the practice other than religious, and " my husband is"
Jul 5, '07Occupation: Mom, critical care nurse, NP student, all around wackadoo! Specialty: ICU, CVICU ; From: US ; Joined: Jul '05; Posts: 679; Likes: 216Can you provide a link to that information from the CDC? I looked but could not find anything like that.
Jul 5, '07Occupation: Professor of Nursing Specialty: Nurse Educator; Family Nursing ; From: US ; Joined: Mar '07; Posts: 1,306; Likes: 109There is information at these sites at the CDC
Jul 5, '07Joined: Nov '06; Posts: 20,715; Likes: 23,951I am also glad that there is a movement within the Jewish faith to not routinely circumcise boys. They are still in the minority as far as I know, but it does exist. They still have the ceremony as a way to welcome baby into the community but without the circ.