Formula companies and the new hoax, what do you think??

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I work in a family practice office where we do a lot of OB, and also help my Dr with deliveries. I had an interesting conversation with the Similac rep last month and it's been bothering me ever since. Seems our hospital is now accepting the new Similac Advance formula which supposedly contains the DhA (?) protein "like in mother's milk". However, after reviewing the studies he gave me, I pointed out that this new Similac didn't have any added benefits as the old, yet it costs $4.00 more per can. He became somewhat embarrassed and admitted that Similac made the new formula, with the added protein, whose only real and proven benefit is that the DhA is retained longer in the red blood cell than ordinary protien, so they can compete with Enfamil who has a similar product. But, Similc was sure moms would buy the new stuff and pay more because it " made them feel like they were doing something great" for their babies. I've tried to persuade Ob not to use this in our new OB kits, but they won't change their minds. Now moms are getting sucked into the higher priced formula that doesn't have any benefit. What do you all do in your hospital? We promote breastfeeding as a first choice in the clinic, and recommed formulas based on quality content and price. Any thoughts? I'm sorry if I have the abbreviations wrong ( DhA).

Lisa

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Originally posted by shay

I just like the freebies I get from the formula reps. :chuckle Yes, I'm going straight to hell. :chuckle

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Right! Just give me my travel mug and pen, thank you!:devil:

I belive that they are phasing out "regular" formulas and will only have the DHA types. That is all we have on our unit now.

Originally posted by shay

I just like the freebies I get from the formula reps. :chuckle Yes, I'm going straight to hell. :chuckle

Yup. I'm a pen whore. I'll do anything for a pen.

Heather

How funny...We just had the formula guys talking to us this week (free pens and all).

Both reps did say that Enfamil Lipil has more DHA than Similac...The Enf guy said that Similac Advance has less than that recommended by whatever organization. The Similac guy could only focus on the fact that WIC does not approve of Enf LIPIL...so that we can give Similac Advance in the hospital. (OK...Here, they don't approve of anything Similac, so what is the point? Oooh Oooh!!! They approve of neither, so pick ours!)

During the lecture about how DHA is found in breastmilk blah blah blah...One of our pediatricians stopped the rep and said, "Well...If you studied OUR population, you would also find alot of meth and cocaine and amphetamines in the breastmilk...doesn't mean that we should add it to the formula." LOL! The rep did not know how to dig himself out of that one!

I think that it is just a bunch of hooey...anything to make a sale. I just ask my moms, "Which do you like better? Bears? Or Bunnies?" and select the formula based on that! Perfectly scientific approach, doncha think?! haha!

Meanwhile, I collect all the pens and notepads and makeup bags and travel mugs and whatever they will give me! ;-)

I took all the little cans of formula I received as samples (somehow, if you sign up for Parents magazine, your name appears on every marketing list in the country) and put them in my disaster-preparedness kits.

I don't have any problem taking freebies from the formula companies--they don't have to know that I've breastfed my son from day 1 and have no intention of buying their product. When Enfamil Lipil came out, I called the 800 number and told the lady that I was interested in trying the new formula--they sent me four little cans and eight nursette bottles! So, I may be going to Hell, but I'm going well-supplied. :rolleyes:

Does anybody work in a "baby friendly" hospital? Formula is a bad word! No more free goodies at all!

When I was getting all the samples I donated them to our Community Cupboard. When we had a community disaster-15 rowhomes burnt down on Fathers' Day- I asked the rep at the office where Iworked for a donation. He came up with 20 cases of formula, diapers, and baby food coupons. Not too shaby for a formula rep. ;)

I think a lot of mom's that are formula feeding and not on WIC go to Walmart and buy "Parent's Choice" because it is so much cheaper. I know I have had a lot of questions about it from parents and I tell them to ask their pediatrician...

I think a lot of mom's that are formula feeding and not on WIC go to Walmart and buy "Parent's Choice" because it is so much cheaper. I know I have had a lot of questions about it from parents and I tell them to ask their pediatrician...

Parent's choice is manufactured by Wyeth nutritionals. As are all the other off-name brands that you find in stores (wal-green's) etc. I know that Wyeth tends to market to other countries not concentrating on the US.

It is manufactured in Vermont. My mother used to be the quality control assurance supervisor for this plant. She was responsible for all product that was released to not be contaminated with things such as foreign objects or salmonella. I want to say that the formula is the same as SMA, but am not sure. Here is the company link.

http://www.storebrandformulas.com/Wyeth.html

Originally posted by kcrnsue

Does anybody work in a "baby friendly" hospital? Formula is a bad word! No more free goodies at all!

There are only 33 of them in the entire country. I'd work at one if there was one in my area.

But hey, like I said, I'm going straight to hell anyway. :chuckle I like my free pens and lunch bags. Meh.

Our formual reps mail free cases of formula to staff with babies. So when a pt asks "what formula does your babe eat?" they get the answer the rep wants..Even our "breastffeddding success" diaper bags have formula in them..... these guys are evil

I usually ask my mom's if they would like me to remove the formula from the bag for them. Most of them usually say no, and ask if I can put a little more in there. Maybe it's geographical, I don't know.

Our rep will send formula to staff also. I'm not sure that it effects which one we suggest to patients when they ask. Even the nurses that breastfed have formula preferences.

Heather

I agree that formula marketing is outta control, but I must say that those hospital freebies saved my butt. On Day 4 of my new boss's life when my milk still hadn't come in and he decided to wake up and be hungry, I was awful happy to have 'em. I had enough samples to feed him until my milk came in on Day 6.

Kim

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