What other profession floats? - page 4

What other profession besides nurses float? Janitors- their job-I couldn't do without them, is fairly standardized. Teachers- even teachers have substitutes. Secretaries- well, they can't kill... Read More

  1. by   chicoborja
    I know that retail pharmacists often float
  2. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Have you read the book "NURSE ABUSE: Impact and Resolution"?

    Floating to unfamiliar areas of practise is listed right on the front cover as a prime example of NURSE ABUSE.

    Here is some info from the book:

    Are you a nurse? Have you read ...


    Written By
    Joan Swirsky, RN, MS, CS
    Harold Stearley, RN, BSN, CCRN

    Laura Gasparis Vonfrolio, RN, PhD, CEN, CCRN

    This book is fast becoming the catalyst for meaningful changes in nursing.
    No nurse should be without it!

    The second edition of this popular, revolutionary book documents the pervasive abuse of nurses that begins with their academic and clinical training and continues into all settings in which nurses work.

    Undervalued, stereotyped, treated with cavalier indifference and crass condescension, nurses are now facing replacement by unlicensed aides, short staffing, being floated to areas outside their expertise, the wholesale dismantling of their profession, and the exploitation of their patients in the name of corporate profits.

    In Nurse Abuse: Impact and Resolution, the voices of nurses surge with outrage and suggestions for action. "I'm fed up and I'm not going to take it anymore!" resonates on every page, with staff nurses and nursing educators and administrators focusing not only on the frustrations, problems, and barriers they face but on the concrete, doable solutions that can help the noble art and science of nursing gain its rightful and respected place in the healthcare system.

    Publisher: Power Publications

    ISBN: 1-888315-02-4

    Price: $24.95

    Here is a link:


    In my opinion, truer writing has never been published.
  3. by   fab4fan
    but those pharmacists are still doing the same job; they're not being floated to another store and then asked to fill in or the store manager, whocalled in sick that day.

    i haven't worked m/s for several years (i work ed). the staffing coordinator called me one day a few months ago, wanting to know if i would be charge on m/s, as the nurse scheduled had called out sick. i really thought it was a joke at first, and laughed...when the person on the other end of the line said, "why are you laughing?", i realized it was not a joke, she was serious!!

    a nurse is not some sort of interchangeable part that can fit anywhere. we each have skills/talents unique to our area of practice. if hospitals expect any different, they might as well turn the hospital checkbook over to the malpractice attorneys.
  4. by   chelseadog
    Would like opinions on the folowing Floating problem:
    My fellow RN and I have worked for many years in a Nursing Home. She transferred to the Medical Model Daycare part time about 2 years ago and I transferred there about one year ago.
    About 3 weeks ago we had a snow storm. We each had to call a few of the registrants to tell them the program would be open but transportation would be about an hour late. I drove to work and was stuck on the road about an hour trying to get up a hill. We had about 18 registrants show up. AT about 12 noon the nursing supervisor called over and wanted a nurse to come to the nursing home to take an assignment for a nurse that called in. (This particular nurse ALWAYS calls in) When we are short a nurse they do not float to help us out. Neither of us wanted to go. We had been doing community nursing for the past few years. We didn't feel it was safe for the residents or for ourselves. We think a better, safer solution would have been to call the evening nurse in a few hours early.

    Since I had less seniority I was chosen to float. The DON told the director of the Daycare program if I refused they would bring me up on abandonment charges. So against my better judgement I floated to the nursing home.

    Today there was another snow storm. The program was closed but all staff were expected to come in probably to be floated to the nursing home. Most of the staff called in sick.

    What does everyone think about floating from community nurse to nursing home nurse and the threat of job abandonment????
  5. by   canoehead
    You can't be charged with abandonment on a patient you never took report on so your sup was talking out of her hoo-hoo.

    In an emergency it's nice to help out however you can...what about telling the sup you will do tasks but another nurse will have to take over on the "charge" decisions, which makes sense, as you don't know the routine or the patients. Then, force her to introduce you to this "charge" when you get there so she doesn't weasel out of it, and bring up the whole situation at the next staff meeting so that a) you won't end up in that situation again, or b) you get enough training to pinch hit when necessary.
  6. by   caroladybelle
    Originally posted by chelseadog

    Since I had less seniority I was chosen to float. The DON told the director of the Daycare program if I refused they would bring me up on abandonment charges. So against my better judgement I floated to the nursing home.

    What does everyone think about floating from community nurse to nursing home nurse and the threat of job abandonment????
    And would these idiots have paid your bills for life, when you lose your license from taking an inappropriate assignment? Would they pay the malpractice bill?

    Tell the Supervisor to take off her silks and her spotless gloves and do the assignment herself.
  7. by   oramar
    I previously worked at a facility that was in big financial trouble. Conditions were going down hill fast. We went from being rarely being pulled to every one in the house being PRN in about two years. Well they put me in ICU a few times with the promise that I would only care for telemetry patients. I came down with the disease I call "creeping acuity". It occurs when a person does not speak up. They find themselves in more and more dangerous situations with sicker and sicker patients on units for which they were never trained to work. After a short time I wised up and started to refuse to take the assignments. At first I was harassed but finally they backed off and let me alone. A few months later I found that they had discontinued the practice of putting non ICU nurses in ICU. Turns out there was a law suit and the hospital was in big trouble because the incident that led to the suit occured when an ICU patient was under care of med/surg nurse that had been pulled. When records were checked it was found that the patient in question had mostly been cared for by non ICU nurses. Turns out managment was really shaking in it's boots. I could not help but think at the time that had I not started to refuse being pulled to ICU I would have been involved in the whole mess.
  8. by   mattsmom81
    Oramar I work with lots of tele nurses who feel the same way you do...and have watched some bad situations occur because of management's playing around with the 'warm body' approach to floating. We do indeed need to learn when to say 'NO' and to mean it when we say it.:stone

    Also want to add: while I DEFINITELY appreciate the tele nurse who comes to ICU to help me in a pinch, we get onto a slippery slope when this float practice becomes management's answer to every short staffed ICU day. It's not fair to the tele nurse nor to me who must supervise the tele nurse, and most of all, not fair to the ICU patient to have a non ICU nurse. The facility is sure charging for critical care... so they should staff for it IMHO.
    Last edit by mattsmom81 on Jan 29, '04
  9. by   tiredfeetED
    I know you fly propeller planes for a living.....This 747 is just Bigger!
  10. by   MST
    I agree floating can and is dangerous for the nurse and the pt. I did not float much when I worked in the hospital because I worked ob/ over flow med / surg. , and the experience I had when I started at the hospital.
    I was a new grad on orientation . I had just started what was going to be my shift . I was told when I came in the I was being pulled to med/ surge on another floor. I informed them I was on orientation with a preceptor. The powers that be decided ok preceptor would go with me. The preceptor stated she had only worked ob and did not want to float. We had to float.
    So we went to the unit. We got a hi heres your assignment and was alone in the station. We got recored report on what was supposed to be stable pt to handle all night. My preceptor disappeared and I was handeling the team. Thank God above I had done an internship my last year of nursing school in adult ICU . I ended up calling a poor dr every hour on the hour all night and did a silent code on his pt before sending pt to unit. Dr came in and wanted to know who kept calling him all night. I said I did expecting to get chewed out. Dr actual complemented me on treating the pt and did not know I was new grad.
    The preceptor appeared at the end of the shift crying as the pt did not mak it after all. Needless to say my preceptor told the nm on our unit what happened and that was the end of my orientation. I was never so upset up to that time.
    So floating can expand skills and knowledge, howevere I think floating to different units need cross training and orientation. I feel if floating is going to be a policy then limits on who, experience level and unit must be considered.
    I dod not float now as I work telephone advise and have to talk to everybody.