That is the definition of a micromanager, all right. However, her classroom, her students, her rules. Honestly I kind of side with her on this. If you are reading in your text during lecture, you aren't listening to lecture. Even if you're following along with what she's saying, you still aren't taking in as much info as you could by just having all eyes on her and attentively listening. I sit through every single one of my lectures this way, eyes on them, taking notes if necessary, but listening to what they're saying with my undivided attention is the most important thing. I retain info very well this way. I know that everyone is different, but I can see why she would want to enforce this rule. Some of my peers will sit through an entire lecture just highlighting. Half the chapter would be highlighted by the time class is over. I never understood it. If they would just listen and pay attention, learning would come much easier.
I disagree and will refuse to join her class for many reasons...
And thus you hand her a reason to fail you. How does this help you in furthering your education? Did you approach her and ask why that was her policy? She is entitled to create the learning environment she chooses.
I had an instructor like that! Personally I don't tbink I have seen anyone use a text book during a lecture yet! The have the powerpoints ! Our instructor wants us to pay attention to the lecture ! However if your instructor is one of those who reads word for word paraphrasing instead of teaching you need to highlight what they say. Our teachers state things from the book like main points in there own words so it wouldn't do any good to read it then .Maybe after and before class ! I highlight what I heard the teacher say after lectures when I'm doing my readings but some need to write notes and flash cards to learn ! Everyone retains information differently ! I'm a auditory and visual learner all I do is listen and then i re read the chapters and form pictures in my mind lol
Lol I over shot the question I disagree . Perhaps you should go to an online program where you could teach your self! FYI they will just charge it to the game if you drop , they would rather not deal with it anyway because nursing had a lot to do with how you carry yourself and the really frown upon whining ! It shows lack of character development . Not to say that's what your doing, but that's how they take it you have to be mature and adapt ! We as nurse adapt every day ! We don't shut down when we don't get our way! If that is the answer by not attending and surely you will fail, then maybe reconsider being a Nurse because that type of thing doesn't get better ! The Doctors will get on your nerves easily but a lot over what they say is law and you will find your self with out a job! Think about it!!
You are going into the nursing profession. Get ready to abide what at times turn out to be pointless and ridiculous rules and policies.
If this bothers you THAT much, I'm inclined to dissuade you from becoming a nurse - as the real world of nursing is filled with policies and procedures that at time make little sense.
I also want to add that I would be actually delighted to have a professor that wants to engage me to such extent. A professor that is not all too concerned with my attention could care less if I bring a laptop, cell phone, or crying baby. The more the merrier and the less focal attention on them.
I would attend her class and take good notes. It sound like she may be testing directly from her lectures - which is always better than testing from 400 pages of material man. Be smart about this.
That would bother me too. I take notes in the margins of my books sometimes to ensure that I go back and reread what was highlighted most in lecture. I would also be very upset if I couldn't use my laptop for notes. I can type at the speed of light and would also prefer avoiding hand cramps from a 2 hour lecture.
I understand that some students goof off or study other material during lecture. I believe that's the student's prerogative. If they want to waste the lecture time they're paying for, so be it; and when said student meets with the instructor because they don't understand why they're failing, they don't get sympathy.
There's really no need to micromanage the class in my opinion. Especially a classroom full of adults.
ETA: I would not, however, simply skip class. As others have said, those are the rules. They suck. There's nothing you can do about that. But it certainly doesn't make sense to simply stop learning in the classroom environment.
^ THIS. One classmate of mine flipped through and was highlighting her textbook all during lecture just a few seats away from me. It was incredibly distracting.
Textbooks are to supplement lecture, not to be read during lecture. Not to mention that if there are less distractions you're probably more apt to pay attention and retain what's being taught in class.
Almost my entire class uses their textbooks in lecture. My instructor goes out of order and will say, "I don't want you to know this section for this test, but come back to it for test 3." Having your book with you makes sense. It's being proactive.
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Give her a chance and just assume there's a reason she has this rule. You will do better in her class this way.
I personally would find this rule intriguing. I'll bet she's an interesting teacher.
She feels she has something more to offer you than the book does. This is a really good thing. After all, going to class should give you something more than reading the book would. Otherwise, why not just stay home and read?
I found the majority of my lecture periods to be wasted time, and always had my laptop and books on hand so I could make full use of my time. I would have been in AGONY if I had been forced to go to lectures with only a pen and paper.
But yeah. I pretty much ignored the teachers who gave crappy lectures, and spent the time studying (or catching up on homework, or yeah... sometimes scrolling facebook, I will admit it). Kind of rude, for me to just not pay attention to a lecture that (hopefully) the teacher put some real effort into. Sorry, teachers :/
Like most of us, I am busy and pulled in a thousand directions, and try desperately to make good use of my time. I don't learn well from even the best of lectures (barring my favorite topics of course). I am glad my school didn't prevent me from using the time as I saw fit. Even though,if I am being honest, my inattention was less than polite.
I can't fault a teacher for trying to get her students to pay attention in class. But a more logical approach is to see how you can engage students more fully in the lecture material. I do think it is short sighted (and counterproductive) to not allow source material in class- I have been fed too many nonfactual statements to take any lecture material at face value, and I would go nuts if i couldn't seek clarification/verification for concepts that didn't sit quite right with me, or for deeper understanding of issues that were breezed over in class. And anyway, how are you supposed to engage in any classroom conversation without source material to work from?
I also think restriction of internet access is pretty much indefensible, in the classroom or the clinical setting. I am not going to take my teacher's vague description of a fundamental physiologic concept at face value- not after she just spent 10 minutes explaining how you have to insert a plastic bag into the abdomen for peritoneal dialysis, otherwise the fluid would just run down into the legs. And as an RN, I am not about to flip through the 2010 Davis Drug Guide on the shelf above the pyxis. Not gonna do it. And hell if I want my students to think it is acceptable to rely on print materials for up to date guidelines.
Teal dear as usual. Suffice it to say, I disagree with that teacher's policy. It's dumb and it creates a barrier to learning for many- if not most- students. Nursing is about developing higher level thinking skills, not sitting quietly while teacher-approved material is carefully spoon fed to you. But. She's running the show and you are SOL unless you want to bring it to the dean. Which I might actually do in that situation. I just can't imagine being stripped of my ability to gather my own information when I am trying to learn something. Gives me the heebie jeebies, actually.
Refusing to go to her class is one strategy you can take, I guess. But I am having trouble seeing how that will get you anything except a boot out the door.
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That is the definition of a micromanager, all right. However, her classroom, her students, her rules. Honestly I kind of side with her on this. If you are reading in your text during lecture, you aren't listening to lecture. Even if you're following along with what she's saying, you still aren't taking in as much info as you could by just having all eyes on her and attentively listening. I sit through every single one of my lectures this way, eyes on them, taking notes if necessary, but listening to what they're saying with my undivided attention is the most important thing. I retain info very well this way. I know that everyone is different, but I can see why she would want to enforce this rule. Some of my peers will sit through an entire lecture just highlighting. Half the chapter would be highlighted by the time class is over. I never understood it. If they would just listen and pay attention, learning would come much easier.