Nursing diagnosis "altered energy field"

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"Altered energy diagnosis"

Do you support this NANDA diagnosis? Or do you feel that this diagnosis threatens the legitamacy of our profession? Nanda still stands behind it. What are your thoughts?

paphgrl

The 13 dimensions of vibrational string theory in quantum physics is heady stuff indeed. Only a handful of people on the entire planet are smart enough to understand it. However, it has nothing to do with nurses running around "healing" energy fields. When put to the test, TT practitioners cannot feel the energy in a body part unless they know it is there. Put two boxes on the floor and they cannot tell which one has a person in it. TT is total sham! All TT alters is the ego of the practitioner.

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There is plenty of RESEARCH that supports that approximately 85% of what is done in health care is NOT evidence-based.
Show me one!

but certainly you cannot negate all of the research in physics that definitively proves that ALL LIVING BEINGS have energy fields

Dont' confuse electrical activity with so called energy fields.

and then state you cannot support NANDA-I because of that one diagnosis
. NANDA has validity but this one diagnosis sticks out like a sore thumb.
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Show me one!

I don't have time to look up anything else...will leave it to others but Dr. Weil says, "most conventional medical scientists are unaware of the evidence that already exists for the safety and efficacy of many CAM treatments; the evidence base for many widely used allopathic treatments is not very solid"

Dont' confuse electrical activity with so called energy fields.

Who is? If you were to go back to your chair, and look at it through an atomic microscope, you would see that nothing is there! The universe is energy.

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The 13 dimensions of vibrational string theory in quantum physics is heady stuff indeed. Only a handful of people on the entire planet are smart enough to understand it. However, it has nothing to do with nurses running around "healing" energy fields. When put to the test, TT practitioners cannot feel the energy in a body part unless they know it is there. Put two boxes on the floor and they cannot tell which one has a person in it. TT is total sham! All TT alters is the ego of the practitioner.

I once underwent a tratment by a TT practitioner. It was for relief of pain. I guess the lessening of pain and the feeling of warmth, in the painful area, were unreal. And I was suffering an alteration of the ego of the practitioner.

Grannynurse

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"Evidence based medicine is the conscientious, explicit, and judicious use of current best evidence in making decisions about the care of individual patients. The practice of evidence based medicine means integrating individual clinical expertise with the best available external clinical evidence from systematic research. ..

Evidence based medicine is not restricted to randomised trials and meta-analyses. It involves tracking down the best external evidence with which to answer our clinical questions. To find out about the accuracy of a diagnostic test, we need to find proper cross sectional studies of patients clinically suspected of harbouring the relevant disorder, not a randomised trial. For a question about prognosis, we need proper follow up studies of patients assembled at a uniform, early point in the clinical course of their disease. And sometimes the evidence we need will come from the basic sciences such as genetics or immunology. It is when asking questions about therapy that we should try to avoid the non-experimental approaches, since these routinely lead to false positive conclusions about efficacy. Because the randomised trial, and especially the systematic review of several randomised trials, is so much more likely to inform us and so much less likely to mislead us, it has become the "gold standard" for judging whether a treatment does more good than harm. However, some questions about therapy do not require randomised trials (successful interventions for otherwise fatal conditions) or cannot wait for the trials to be conducted. And if no randomised trial has been carried out for our patient's predicament, we must follow the trail to the next best external evidence and work from there. "

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I once underwent a treatment by a TT practitioner. It was for relief of pain. I guess the lessening of pain and the feeling of warmth, in the painful area, were unreal. And I was suffering an alteration of the ego of the practitioner.

Another double blind study showed that 30% of post-op patients received relief from nausea & vomiting from a placebo saline injection. That does not mean that N&V can be controlled with saline. This is why rigorous scientific study is needed and anecdotal stories are taken with a "grain of salt". TT is still in the anecdotal stage and should not be considered a part of nursing or medical treatment.

By the way granny, I am glad you get relief from your pain with TT. Pain pills have so many side effects and get so tiresome.

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but Dr. Weil says,
Dr. Weil is another crackpot nutritionist that thinks garlic and whole wheat can cure everything. He mixes in just enough science with his anti-modern medicine diatribe to sound legit. It's just a shtick to sell books! Anyone that thinks 85% of nursing is not based in science is sadly mistaken.
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Another double blind study showed that 30% of post-op patients received relief from nausea & vomiting from a placebo saline injection. That does not mean that N&V can be controlled with saline. This is why rigorous scientific study is needed and anecdotal stories are taken with a "grain of salt". TT is still in the anecdotal stage and should not be considered a part of nursing or medical treatment.

I've a suggestion. There is an article, that appeared in Nursing Science Quarterly, Vol 14 No, 2, April 2001, pg 132-140. It was written by Vidette Todaro-Franceschi, R.N.; PhD, Assistant Professor of Nursing, Hunter College, City University of New York, titled "Energy: A Bridging Concept for Nursing Science." Try reading it then come back and argue your premise of evidence based practice only. A short summary is that there are two ideas of energy that cross multiple disciplines. And analysis of models by Nightengale, Levine and Rogers support the view that energy in nursing science shares a common theme. And examination of this concept address the nursing theoretical implications in relation to the existence of energy. While it does not address the requisite proof, it does raise some interesting issues.

Grannynurse

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I'm not against research into the potential existance of people posessing energy fields that may show distress and might be altered in a positive way. I'm against ANY unproven therapy or disease modality being included in NANDA.

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Dr. Weil is another crackpot nutritionist that thinks garlic and whole wheat can cure everything. He mixes in just enough science with his anti-modern medicine diatribe to sound legit. It's just a shtick to sell books! Anyone that thinks 85% of nursing is not based in science is sadly mistaken.

He's like any other person that one might disagree with...in spite of his very successful work at the University of Arizona and his well-respected program in integrative medicine. If you look closely, you'll see that his after tax profits go to the Weil foundation for training others in integrative medicine.

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Specializes in Nursing assistant.

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This is fun! see if you can solve the wason's problem.

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Specializes in med-surg 18 months, respiratory 3.5 year.

zenman said " Yes, Western medicine has failed big time. Think of all the chronic diseases...arthritis, hypertension, diabetes...and then ask yourself "why are they chronic?"

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"Dr. Weil is another crackpot nutritionist that thinks garlic and whole wheat can cure everything."

I believe all the crackpot nutritionists will have the last laugh, after all. There is growing evidence that chronic conditions are a direct cause of our poor western nutrition. If we ate better diets, maybe our energy fields wouldn't be altered:idea:

Rebecca

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