Nursing diagnosis "altered energy field"

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"Altered energy diagnosis"

Do you support this NANDA diagnosis? Or do you feel that this diagnosis threatens the legitamacy of our profession? Nanda still stands behind it. What are your thoughts?

paphgrl

Sorry, I couldn't stay away. Using philosophical arguments to defend non-evidenced based practice is a smoke screen. However, I understand. There are no other practical arguments to make. Even a high school student was able to prove TT is a sham! TT practitioners are left with denying the efficacy of modern medicine, claiming TT is unstudy-able, using philosophic clichés and anecdotal success stories. FYI...Trees always make sound waves when they fall, the egg came before the chicken and Bart Simpson solved the riddle of one hand clapping!

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Dang, I have never convincenced anyone of anything before. Thanks.

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Dang, I have never convincenced anyone of anything before. Thanks.

Im old. You learn to learn. Anyway, I was on a rabbit trail!

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Oh please do share: how did Bart solve the one hand clapping conumdrum?

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He smacked his fingers against his palm. Try it, it works. Sure pissed off Lisa though. She also prefers philosophy to reality.

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Thanks for that info! I am sure I too can irritate family members with this technique.

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When I was a kid, my mom would threaten to beat me with a wet noodle.

The purpose was to baffle me into behaving.

I think that is the purpose of 'if a tree falls in the forest...and what is the sound of one hand clapping...and others....

Disengage your mind and behave!

So, I don't think these were genuine questions....sort of smoke and mirrors.

How can you test what happens when something is not being observed? If I put a camera and sound system in the woods, and come back later to see what happened when the tree fell, the camera and sound system would qualify as the observer, therefor I have not answered the question. If you put an idea out into the realm of untestible, and yet assert it to be true, you tie the hands of the opponents by basically baffling us all with barbara striestand, if you get my drift. ( no offense intented towards barbara)

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OK where is the evidence for theraputic touch, or maybe theraputic almost touch. I remeber reading JAMA years ago in which a high school science project was all that was needed to point out the lack of measurealble results from TT. Silly concept. OOOOPS I did not realize how long this thread was.

Go back and read earlier posts about that mistake JAMA made, including the flack they received. The editor was later fired for several reasons. And you to can look up research studies.

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Well excuse me. I will be happy to read about JAMA's mistake. But I still suspect there is no evidence TT has any thearputic effect. But I will keep and open mind. I really cant go through all the 46 pages of posts though. can you direct me to the research indicating TT had some effect of some sort on some one?

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Sorry, I couldn't stay away. Using philosophical arguments to defend non-evidenced based practice is a smoke screen. However, I understand. There are no other practical arguments to make. Even a high school student was able to prove TT is a sham! TT practitioners are left with denying the efficacy of modern medicine, claiming TT is unstudy-able, using philosophic clichés and anecdotal success stories. FYI...Trees always make sound waves when they fall, the egg came before the chicken and Bart Simpson solved the riddle of one hand clapping!

I thought we discussed earlier that TT was actually not really included in the JAMA study. The researchers just thought it was...which I guess says something about them. Why don't each of you find a couple TT studies and post them...like one I did earlier. Then after you post them, look at them and repeat again, "There are no studies...there are no studies." This is like the "American Idol" TV show where thousands of people deny the lack of ability to sing!:chuckle

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I think that's ridiculous.:DLOL!
Anilina: I hope I do this right I have never posted to a web site before. I am responding to the.Nursing Diagnosis (altered energy fields) My nursing carear has been on a med/surg floor for over thirty years. I have never felt any type of energy riadating from my pt, however I do know that touch means a lot to a pt when they are hurting or when they are afraid.
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"The healing modalities of Healing Touch/Therapeutic Touch (HT/TT), Reiki and Polarity Therapy all share some features in common. These techniques detect and correct energetic imbalances in the human energy field through the trained hands of the practitioners. There are scores of well-designed scientific studies that document physiological changes such as improved oxygenation, improved blood counts and accelerated wound healing with the use of HT/TT.

These studies are published in nursing journals and complementary/alternative publications, but are conspicuously absent from most medical journals. Apparently, the concept of the human energy field causes intellectual indigestion in the Western medical community - something akin to "I wouldn't believe it even if it were true." For a medical journal to publish a study on HT/TT, they would have to challenge the mechanistic (Newtonian), biomedical model which is the basis of our understanding of the human body.

My belief in the biomedical model was challenged shortly after completing residency training in Family Practice. I met a nurse who used TT on patients in the hospital, and showed me how to do TT. As she waved her hands in the air, I couldn't help but think this was some absurd vestige left over from the Dark Ages. Fortunately for me, that nurse put up with my skepticism and went on to marry me. Eventually I came around, because I saw that TT often produces dramatic clinical results. Based on the biomedical model, TT should do nothing or at most have a placebo effect. The only conclusion left for me to draw was that somehow the biomedical model was inadequate to explain what I was observing clinically.

Dr Robert Becker - a respected orthopedic surgeon and author of The Body Electric and Cross Currents - has documented the wide range of research on the effects of electricity and electromagnetic fields on the body. Dr Becker and other researchers have found that an injury is accompanied by an abnormal electric charge and that electrons flow to the site of injury as a part of the normal healing process. This flow of electrons has been termed the current of injury and this principle has been used for over 20 years in the field of orthopedics to stimulate healing of bone fractures.

In addition, Dr Becker and several researchers have found that the Acupuncture points and meridians are actually low resistance electrical pathways. So while a practitioner of TCM may alter the flow of Chi in the body, a Western researcher would describe it as changing the flow of DC current. The Acupuncture meridians and points are essentially the electric grid of the body." Milton Hammerly, MD

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