Nursing diagnosis "altered energy field"

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pugmum

pugmum

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Nor is it synoymous with wisdom, insights, understanding, compassion, kindness, ... etc.

A related question is how does being well read and having lots of experience shape that person? Does it make the person become full of him/herself and s/he starts to look down on other people? Or does it make the person humble because s/he realize how much one does not know?

Well said.

leslie :-D

11,191 Posts

Nor is it synoymous with wisdom, insights, understanding, compassion, kindness, ... etc.

A related question is how does being well read and having lots of experience shape that person? Does it make the person become full of him/herself and s/he starts to look down on other people? Or does it make the person humble because s/he realize how much one does not know?

even though i've noted the former, humility is much more attractive.

carry on danu.:)

leslie

Retired R.N.

Retired R.N.

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> Practitioners of TT believe that there is an energy field that surrounds the human body. It apparently extends several inches. When the body suffers a physical disturbance, such as pain, the flow of this energy field is interrupted, hence the altered energy field. The purpose of of the nursing intervention is to restore the balance or eveness of the flow.

How is the disturbance measured? Does the amount or the strength of the disturbance dictate the type of intervention?

If this disturbance manifests itself by a bad odor, I can understand the nurse seeking the cause and applying corrective action like a bath, clean diaper, or an application of an antiperspirant/deodorant compound for simple causes while the odor from gangrene requires more drastic action.

What I don't understand is exactly HOW one makes the diagnosis of an altered energy field. What is a "normal" energy field?

If a patient complained that her energy field was out of adjustment, would it get her a quick psych referral, a reply that lack of energy means she needs more sleep, or a reassurance that "power surges" are within normal limits for women of a certain age?

danu3

danu3

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Maybe this thread title should be change too NANDA or something...

Two of the classes I am taking now deals with shamanism (one is on death, dying and religion and the other is on the relationships between magic, science, and religion). Shamanism, for those who are not familiar with it, has many different names... probably the most commonly used is the "medicine man".

Anyway, with shamanism, a big part of it deals with healing. It has a totally different world view. Across cultures, they are quite surprising consistent. Anyway, the world view involve a sick person is either dis-spiritied (someone who has lost his own guardian spirit or his/her soul; everyone is suppose to have some guardian spirit) or an illed person has extra harmful power in him/her. A shaman, who has at least a powerful guardian spirit and many helper spirits (which s/he aquires over time) will go down to the underworld to retrieve the lost guardian spirit or even soul if it is the first case. The shaman will "suck" out the extra harmful powers in the sick patient in the second case.

Now, there are courses you can take now in the US to become a shaman. Since it does deal with healing a lot, what happened if there are enough nurses who learned it and guess what, it is in the nursing diagnosis. Do we have problems with it?

Actually, shamanism sometimes is group under CAM. Here at least one nursing school who is teaching CAM as an optional class also brought in shamanism for a little bit as a workshop (see http://www.westminstercollege.edu/review/index.cfm?parent=1607&detail=2383&content=2384)

So, are we going to see specific nursing diagnosis for shamanism also?

Those of us who are well-read in different religions and different healing systems (and there are a few of us who are), what are our attitudes? Are we going to be open to everything? Are we going to be critical in our evaluation? Are we going to be selective (there are just way too many different systems out there ranging from down right quakery to something that are worth futher investigation and everything in between)?

danu3

danu3

621 Posts

It is still a normal practice for me to purchase at least $500 worth of books per month. Does this make me smarter than the average person? Probably, but certainly not richer!

Whether you are smarter depends on

  • How many of the books you bought you actually read.
  • How much of the material do you retain.
  • How much of it do you understand.

:):):):):):):):)

Another related question is - are you wiser?

danu3

danu3

621 Posts

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The most recent edition of Beginnings, a publication of the American Holistic Nurses Association, features energy healing, and includes several modalities: TT, Healing Touch, Reiki, etc. I believe that if one has an accepting attitude, these are actual techniques that can be learned and incorporated into care. I think some practitioners perform these techniques as part of an independent practice.

I mentioned this point before... why the Alter Energy Field nursing diagnosis only specify TT? Why so specific? As your quote indicates, there are other modalities.

danu3

danu3

621 Posts

Now THAT is arguably the most logical post in this entire thread.:) Congratulations, and thank you.

A price for SFCardiacRN? :):)

danu3

danu3

621 Posts

I think these techniques benefit the ego of the practitioner more than the patient. What if TT actually disrupts the energy field even more? What if these techniques cause progression of disease? What if alternative therapies cause the patient to delay or forgo proven treatment? I've seen it with a cancer patient and it was not pretty!

Good questions.

leslie :-D

11,191 Posts

Whether you are smarter depends on

  • How many of the books you bought you actually read.
  • How much of the material do you retain.
  • How much of it do you understand.

:):):):):):):):)

Another related question is - are you wiser?

a wise person has more questions than answers.

and one that is secure in themself need not vindicate their credentials.

anyway, i wrote to NANDA tonight, to ask for clarification on their 'altered energy field' dx....i.e., how does one measure energy; wouldn't that be a medical dx, etc. i just sought insight and clarification. should be interesting to hear their response.

danu, i like you.:) you're a sweet and sensitive man with much insight.

leslie

rngreenhorn

rngreenhorn

317 Posts

Danu.... the great equalizer.... I like kinda like you too.... smiles and cheers.

> Practitioners of TT believe that there is an energy field that surrounds the human body. It apparently extends several inches. When the body suffers a physical disturbance, such as pain, the flow of this energy field is interrupted, hence the altered energy field. The purpose of of the nursing intervention is to restore the balance or eveness of the flow.

How is the disturbance measured? Does the amount or the strength of the disturbance dictate the type of intervention?

If this disturbance manifests itself by a bad odor, I can understand the nurse seeking the cause and applying corrective action like a bath, clean diaper, or an application of an antiperspirant/deodorant compound for simple causes while the odor from gangrene requires more drastic action.

What I don't understand is exactly HOW one makes the diagnosis of an altered energy field. What is a "normal" energy field?

If a patient complained that her energy field was out of adjustment, would it get her a quick psych referral, a reply that lack of energy means she needs more sleep, or a reassurance that "power surges" are within normal limits for women of a certain age?

I am not a pratitioner of TT although I do have some knowledge of it. If your inquery is strictly in search of knowledge, I will be happy to try and answer. If it is not, please take your joking someplace else. A TT practitioner bases her nursing diagnosis on the patients physical complaints, which are believed to be the source of the alteration. The patient does not complain her energy field needs adjustment. I am sure that you think you are being cute with your power surge comment. And some many find it funny. I do not. I take it as an attempt to ridicule something you have very little knowledge about.

Grannynurse:balloons:

Works2xs

Works2xs

193 Posts

The issue I have with this particular Dx isn't based on my belief (or lack thereof) in the existence of an individual's energy field. As many have pointed out, there are alternate modalities of healing that the "West" has yet to embrace. Where I take issue is in NANDA's selective inclusion of this particular view from one particular modality. If the use of such diagnoses are legit, where are the jammed chakras? The disturbed meridians? How about folk medicine? You can't (or at least shouldn't) grab some little token from one alternative medicine approach without some sort criteria. If one type is ok, then are all the others ok too? If not, why not?

This break in theme is what I think is damaging. Instead of adding credibility by being inclusive and open minded, it erodes confidence by cherry picking out-of-context items. It "disturbs the energy field" of the Dx list by appearing haphazard. You can't claim that we've defined our skills when the very list that's pointed to for "proof" is itself lacking in consistent vision.

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