An astounding lack of diversity in nursing

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I pasted my comment from another thread (above) into its own thread because I'm interested in why y'all think there is such a lack of diversity in nursing and what you think the solutions should be.

This is a touchy subject, I know, so I only ask that you keep your comments respectful and constructive:

As a minority we experience many unnecessary, unexplainable things that our equal counterparts never even have to deal with, like be confused with all of the healthcare team auxillary members (CNA,house keeping,PT,RT,patient escort, lab tech, pharm tech, etc...) while having a badge that Ray Charles could see identifying us as an RN!!!!! When you pretend to yourself that it doesn't happen, it is because you have probably been guilty of it yourself. Have you noticed how receptive people are to a young (majority) male in scrubs/lab coat versus a minority male in scrubs/lab coat?????? The minority could actually be the MD and majority the scrub tech, but guess who gets the MD RESPECT?

Older thread I came across but wanted to comment on this:

First, some demographics: in the U.S. as of 2000, RNs are comprised of:

http://bhpr.hrsa.gov/healthworkforce/reports/changingdemo/composition.htm#3.3.2

White Female: 82%

non-Hispanic African American Female: 4.9%

Asian Female: 3.5%

Hispanic Female: 2%

Native American Female: 0.7%

Mixed/Other race Female: 1.2%

White Male: 4.7%

All other Male: 1.0%

3 points:

1. The key statistic here is that only ONE PERCENT of nurses are non-white males. If I mistake a minority male as being somebody OTHER than a nurse, sure, there might be some built-in cultural bias there, but it's just as likely that it's because of the rarity of such nurses in the first place.

Now, you might argue that the rarity is the real problem and I would agree. A profession that under-represents minorities by a factor of 3 and males by a factor of 9 needs to ask itself one potent question: why?

2. I think the OP has had a difficult time over the years finding fellow minority male NPs because those nurses would be a fraction of the ONE PERCENT total number of non-white male nurses. A small pool to swim in, to be sure.

3. As demographics change, nursing is simply going to be forced to address this issue of an astounding lack of diversity in its ranks. As our nation drops below 50% "white" in the next decade or two, it will simply become unfeasible to continue to recruit 86.6% of RNs (male and female combined) from the shrinking pool of whites in this nation. Think real hard about that last statistic: something is amiss in how we recruit nurses. Something's broken and needs to be fixed.

(disclaimer: it's not my intent to be biased against LVN/LPNs, however, I got my stats from government links that only tabulated RNs.)

~faith,

Timothy.

What I also find frustrating is that I can not get a scholarship with my GPA (3.8) because I am white. If I do apply for a scholarship that I meet the requirements for, I am competing against 100s or 1000s of other students. There are so many scholarships that minority-based that it seems like reverse discrimination to me. So, I am borrowing up the wazoo to pay for my education and will spend many years & extra shifts to pay it off. There is plenty of struggles on my end as well.

I'm going to have to agree with this. I have found a handfull of scholarships that are avaliable to me. I think without exception they are 'national' companies offering them to anyone. I can find page after page of scholarships avaliable based upon race and I don't have a problem with the idea of it. If some Indian tribes want to have scholarships for their children to go to school and then come back, no problem here. Beyond these few highly competitive programs I cannot find a single scholarship that will offset any of my education that doesn't come with terms I'm not willing to accept.

This means that I'm paying for mine as I go out of pocket.

Back to your regularly scheduled debate...

Specializes in Med/Surg, Geriatrics.
I'm going to have to agree with this. I have found a handfull of scholarships that are avaliable to me. I think without exception they are 'national' companies offering them to anyone. I can find page after page of scholarships avaliable based upon race and I don't have a problem with the idea of it.

Page after page? I don't think so. Where? Where?! I just finished grad school and I only remember perhaps 1 or 2 scholarships that had race as a factor in the scholarship but it certainly was not the only requirement, income and gpa was also a factor. In fact, I did not qualify for any of them myself mainly because of income. So far, I've completed two degrees and I have yet to fall into this bonanza of minority scholarships that is presumed to be dropped into our laps. I have a student loan also plus I worked the entire time I was in graduate school.

Please stop spreading falsehoods, they only perpetuate prejudices. NOW you may go back to your regularly scheduled debate.

Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion.
if other states mirror mine the majority of lvn/lpns are minority nurses. i think there should be tuition, stipend, mentoring programs to encourage and assist these nurses to earn their rn. and especially more "bridge" programs.

it would improve the lack of diversity while lessenining the rn shortage at the same time.

and these nurses have proven they can handle aspects of nursing many cannot.

from nursing spectrum, monday january 29, 2007...

copy just arrived in the mail. karen

hospitals turn to lpns to fill staffing shortages

the future appears bright for students considering an lpn education or those already holding the credential

an lpn cannot replace an rn, but lpns can assist them and do it more safely than a patient care technician or certified nursing assistant [cna] in many cases,” says maryann alexander, rn, phd, associate executive director of the national council of state boards of nursing, which is based in chicago.

alexander believes that the current trend for hospitals to use unlicensed personnel rather than lpns might put patients at increased risk for incidents or negative outcomes such as hospital-acquired infections and falls. in some facilities, the scope of practice for cnas and patient care technicians is extended to include duties that alexander says should be the responsibility of licensed individuals. these duties include performing assessments and invasive procedures, such as inserting foley catheters and drawing blood from central lines.

“the more you delegate to less experienced and knowledgeable individuals, the more you put patients at risk,” alexander says. basic care needs, such as getting water, changing linens, and feeding patients, might be neglected if unlicensed staff members are too busy with tasks that should be performed by lpns or rns, she adds.......

from 1984 to 2001, the percentage of lpns working in nursing and personal care facilities grew from 26% to 32%, according to the 2004 hrsa report. during the same time, the proportion of lpns working in hospitals declined from 54% to 32%.

sure hope this trend reverses itself. educated nurses lpn's certainly provide a higher level of care over most uap. the replacement with uap's to save $$$ is pound foolish when it comes to clinical outcomes.

as this article states, several schools have mixed student populations with over 50% non-caucasian students. several lpn-rn bridge programs just starting in philly area to promote career advancement to rn role.

Specializes in OB.

I've often wondered how affirmitive action and such even work, I applied to two MAJORITY majority hospital, one seeing no minorities, and the other seeing only one, during the interview they told me they were interested in increasing diversity, and told me I interviewed well, only to find out I wasn't hired at either place, but every single place I interviewed that was diverse, I was hired at. Now that I have seen such facilities as Duke and Hopkins, who would even want to work at one where there isn't much diversity?

So I think that AA/EOE can be BS, and people hire who they want to hire, and I believe that prejudices are still in full force in the hiring process.In Maternal-Child Nursing, Males and Minorities are practically non existent. Part of which Males are responsible for, it is almost expected of male nurses to go to ED/ICU, because that is the norm, but I can't wait to break the mold in Maternal-Child Health!

Let's just commit to working together in Advancing the Nursing Profession!

If I were having a baby I wouldn't want a male nurse...

Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion.

Prior to 1990's , most OB's were male....what's the difference as long as competent care provided?

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.

Since i am having a baby, i don't care if the nursing helping me is male or female, i just want them to know what the heck they are doing. Either way, i could pretty much guarentee that the nurse will have seen better or worse nether regions than mine.

I guess i'm just 'over' the modesty thing.

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.

Oh, and i don't agree on recruitment based on diversity. To me that's kind of racist in itself.

Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.
Prior to 1990's , most OB's were male....what's the difference as long as competent care provided?

Well, let's see what the male-dominated gynnnies given to women - 1. the hysterectomy (fortunately curtailed in recent times) for any and every reason (painful sex was a diagnosis);2. women depending on someone else to help them get through delivery (as opposed to empowering themselves to keep things) and make it painless (!?);and 3.the pitocin drip that starts when the patient walks in the door (so we can get the section finished by 11 pm.

I am so sick of hearing about "diversity". The main reason I am sick of hearing about this is because it almost always entails how we can recruit more non white individuals into nursing. Diversity shouldn't just be about recruiting more not whites but, that is always how it is presented and enacted.

In addition, I have read many times that male nurses (who are the minority) make more money on average than female nurses. This is also the case in other female dominated professions. Seems unfair to me.

How about being more holistic and recruiting persons with a wide variety of backgrounds, socioeconomic status etc? I would think socioeconomic status would be a bigger factor than race in whether someone went to college or not.

The university I went to was always talking about being more diverse. The thing is, they university was surrounded by white communities and the university had MUCH more "diversity" than the surrounding communities did in the first place. I would not expect to go to Howard university, an African American university and see a lot of white people. I agree with the previous poster that said that it depends on where you live, and mostly non white nurses worked at her hospital.

Specializes in Cardiac Care.
If I were having a baby I wouldn't want a male nurse...

Gee, that's nice.

How are we supposed to bridge the gender gap so prevalent by the community at large regarding the nursing profession, when it is apparently alive and well among our own ranks? Aren't we supposed to know better? Aren't we supposed to guide our own careers and be the change we want to see?

This attitude saddens me.

Gee, that's nice.

How are we supposed to bridge the gender gap so prevalent by the community at large regarding the nursing profession, when it is apparently alive and well among our own ranks? Aren't we supposed to know better? Aren't we supposed to guide our own careers and be the change we want to see?

This attitude saddens me.

Why does it sadden you? Some women feel more comfortable around women and choose a female Md as well. Are you aware that the majority of sex crimes are committed against women BY men? Sexual assault and the like are quite common and maybe some women aren't ready to have their genitals exposed to a male they don't know.

Certain things are very personal and if a person requests someone of the same sex to provide care for that, you should respect that.

On my unit there have been male pts that said they would feel more comfortable having a male nurse give them a rectal suppos, place foley, etc and I always respected that.

Please think about the reasons why a person would prefer this rather than jumping to conclusions.

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