Nurses are Pathetic!!

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I have been reading thread after thread on this forum and I have come to one conclusion. We are all a pathetic bunch. We take abuse that most other human beings would not put up with. We are physically, mentally and emotionally abused by doctors, managers, patients, and families. We work ungodly hours, skip our much needed breaks without pay for months and years on end. And this goes on and on and on. The stories are endless. Then we are all shocked when a nurse who has had enough finally cracks and administers 32 vials of Dilantin and kills a patient. Is this so different than any other human being who finally after years and years of this abuse, just cannot take it anymore? I think not. When are we all going to stand up and demand decent pay, decent working conditions, and respect? Well, the answer is never because we are not a solid group. We have no autonomy or solidarity because we are a weak profession. We pit one against another. We ***** and backstab. We deserve all the abuse that is dealt to us. In nursing school, we are taught to make beds, empty bedpans and clean dentures. Instead we should get vast lessons in how to deal with some of the real issues that face us today. We are understaffed, overworked, pushed to the breaking point. But yet, the martyr instinct kicks in, we get up and go back and endure more of the same. When is enough, enough? When are we all going to come together and and start shouting about our working conditions and wages? We make less than a crew on road construction or a plumber. And look what we do. We are responsible for peoples lives. I went to work down the road as my current employer is union and I felt that maybe the non union hospital down the road would be a better place. Well, it is not, it is worse. 13 nurses have quit in the 6 weeks I have worked there. I won't renew my contract. It is just too unsafe. The hospital is all about profit at the expense of some great nurses. They even charge for an individual bandaid. It is ridiculous. I have decided that as soon as I can afford to, I'm getting out. I will no longer be a member of a profession that eats its young while at the same time, taking unwarrented abuse from unapreciative doctors that we bend over backwards for. Its not about making a living any more, it is about retaining some self respect, free of abuse by doctors, managers and other nurses who have nothing better to do than put a knife in your back the minute you turn around. At least at walmart I won't have to worry about making a life threatening mistake because I'm overwhelmed by what is required of me each day.

The problem is not that we're not united. There's LOTS of jobs that have the same problems we have. I've worked in countless places with lots of differnet people in different professions, and its all the same ****, just different stories. And being united isn't going to do anything, b/c we'll still have people who get paid massive amounts for sitting on their asses making decisions for people who break their backs for measily pay. Its the way everything works, and there's nothing that's going to change it until we find the perfect way to build a utopian society without people feeling like the rocket scientist isn't doing as much work as the ditch digger.

its so easy to complain about everything.

the way i look at it is. go to school, get the highest degree you can and then you will be at the top and you can change things.

its so hard to listen to people complain and actually be unrealistic at the same time. if you dont voice your opinion when something is not going right or whatever else then you have no voice or leg to stand on, you have to deal until you do grow a voice and actually speak up.

nurses in genral have a my s**t don't stink attitude and its sooooo darn annoying i just want to slap them. ( not every nurse but the majority rules ). i live next to a nurse who has that same attitude towards her neighbors and its like get over yourself. nurses feel they derserve this and they derserve that, but do you really.

don't get me wrong i am going to school to be a nurse and i am totally with you on the higher pay. but, there are reasons management is where they are and you are where you are. experience, degrees and a lot of a** kissing to some degree is why they are where they are, period end of story and yes s**t does roll down hill its apart of every job every job.

my husbands job is extrememly political and he is always complaining but never willing to say anything. he comes home and gives it to me rather then the appropriate people at work. i tell him you are going to getting what your getting if you dont speak up. he still does not say a word to anybody just to me when he comes home and let me tell you it's not nice to listen to or be around.

this is a good place to vent and that cool. but seriously this is just a forum. the first step has to be done by you or someone within there own facility of work.

thats it, that all i have to say for now.

Specializes in Cardiac.

I understand the frustration and anger. I have felt it too at times, but ultimately I do love being a nurse. I am fortunate that most of the doctors where I work are fairly easy to get along with and treat nurses with respect. There are those who don't, of course. As for eating our young and backstabbing each other, that is a problem sometimes. I know it helps when I can make sure my attitude towards new employees/nurses is one of openness and helpfulness. I try to be a mentor. I hate orienting new employees. I just don't like doing it, but since we have so few nurses with experience who can or will, I do it. And I do it with a good attitude for the most part, knowing that this nurse will be working with me on their own soon and I want them to know what to do or at least where to go for the information. It is frustrating. I have had times over my 16 years as a registered nurse that I have been burned out and needed a break. And some counseling and maybe even a little medication...we joke that working on our floor should come with a prozac prescription. I have faith that things will get better. I cannot think of any other job I want to do, especially when I make almost twice as much now as I did 16 years ago. I make a good living. More than twice what my carpenter husband does. In the end, I try to remember it is just a job. Not my life. I work so I can make money for dog and cat and people chow. And I get to do something that challenges me. But I need to leave work at work when I go home and just try and take my job like I do my life. One day at a time.

Specializes in Cardiac.

:monkeydance: I understand the frustration and anger. I have felt it too at times, but ultimately I do love being a nurse. I am fortunate that most of the doctors where I work are fairly easy to get along with and treat nurses with respect. There are those who don't, of course. As for eating our young and backstabbing each other, that is a problem sometimes. I know it helps when I can make sure my attitude towards new employees/nurses is one of openness and helpfulness. I try to be a mentor. I hate orienting new employees. I just don't like doing it, but since we have so few nurses with experience who can or will, I do it. And I do it with a good attitude for the most part, knowing that this nurse will be working with me on their own soon and I want them to know what to do or at least where to go for the information. It is frustrating. I have had times over my 16 years as a registered nurse that I have been burned out and needed a break. And some counseling and maybe even a little medication...we joke that working on our floor should come with a prozac prescription. I have faith that things will get better. I cannot think of any other job I want to do, especially when I make almost twice as much now as I did 16 years ago. I make a good living. More than twice what my carpenter husband does. In the end, I try to remember it is just a job. Not my life. I work so I can make money for dog and cat and people chow. And I get to do something that challenges me. But I need to leave work at work when I go home and just try and take my job like I do my life. One day at a time.

Specializes in Medical/Surgical, Intermediate and Home Care.
you write about backstabbing and not supporting each other ... as you condemn us all, stabbing us all in the heart with your gross generalizations. in your post, you yourself are guilty of not supporting your fellow nurses and weakening the profession through your harsh condemnation of your colleagues.

some of us have had good careers and are working hard (and successfully) to improve conditions where we work.

i'm sorry you have had a bad time and are unable to cope with your situation. but please don't try to take the rest of the profession down with you. your nursing colleagues deserve to be treated better. we don't need one of our own treating us as badly as you did in your post.

thank you for your work in turning around the environment with positive change. lord knows we deserve a healthy work environment in order for healing to take place for our patients (as well as ourselves).

generally, there is a lot of condemnation and criticism in the profession here and there, so it is good news people like you are out there doing something great!

keep us posted.

I have been an Rn for 37 yrs and have worked in many different settings ie. ICU, med-surg, ER, and Psych and in many capacities ie staff nurse, supervisor and DON. I have remained in Nursing because I needed to support 3 children as a single parent. In my experience I have seen nurses who "eat their young" and nurses who really enjoy working with students. I do believe that nurses aren't valued as we should be for the expertise and caring that we provide on a daily basis. I also believe that nurses do not stick together to ensure that we can provide this excellent care needed for various reasons. As a group we shy away from unions as this dehumanizes exactly what we represent and therefore we have no way to present a united force. Our American or National Associations for nursing have provided little assistance with reguards to adequate compensation and benefits leaving each individual responsible for that bargaining position which doesn't come naturally for a lot of females and especially those with a giving heart. I am not burnt-out but i can see things more objectively from my many years of experience. I leave you with one question...why do male nurses as an average make more per hour than their counterpart?

sincerely,

pat

If I use all the jargon of nursing but do not unerstand what is touching my patients hearts, then all I do is chatter when I talk nursing. Even though I have some advanced training in wound care, run an assisted living, am knowledgeable about qi/qa and am an excellent MDS nurse, if I do not have compassion for the residents/patients then all my endeavors are hollow. I can impress my peers with my wordiness and seem like an intellectual with my information junky side, but then if I do not offer MYSELF to my residents/patients then what I do is just plain activity. Part of who I am is a nurse and I am devoted to that and even forfeit personal desires (time, money, and sometimes respect from Dr.'s and other nurses.) If I become cynical and detached and fatigued to the point of indifference then all my energy is expended in futility. I try to put the science and art of nursing together in an effort to achieve "professional" status, something nurses have been working on for some time now. But I still need to notice my resident's/patient's broken heart and dreams or my mission is in vain. Faith hope and love, these are the cravings of the human spirt and the greatest of these is love. We know that don't we? If our status as a nurse is not allowing us to be this kind of nurse then maybe it is time to move on.

I haven't been able to get a job EVEN at Wal-Mart! Around here you are a nurse until you die OR you get slammed for being an RN if you try something different--IE: data entry for a medical facility!

I have been an Rn for 37 yrs and have worked in many different settings ie. ICU, med-surg, ER, and Psych and in many capacities ie staff nurse, supervisor and DON. I have remained in Nursing because I needed to support 3 children as a single parent. In my experience I have seen nurses who "eat their young" and nurses who really enjoy working with students. I do believe that nurses aren't valued as we should be for the expertise and caring that we provide on a daily basis. I also believe that nurses do not stick together to ensure that we can provide this excellent care needed for various reasons. As a group we shy away from unions as this dehumanizes exactly what we represent and therefore we have no way to present a united force. Our American or National Associations for nursing have provided little assistance with reguards to adequate compensation and benefits leaving each individual responsible for that bargaining position which doesn't come naturally for a lot of females and especially those with a giving heart. I am not burnt-out but i can see things more objectively from my many years of experience. I leave you with one question...why do male nurses as an average make more per hour than their counterpart?

sincerely,

pat

I just have to leave that question back to you why do males make more? I am a male nurse working in a large hospital i make the same as the any other female doing my job! Did you not say you were once a DON isnt your duty to set hiring wages as a DON! that comment pissed me off! :trout:

as far as being "pathetic" that was a "pathetic" comment from a fellow nurse.

I am on my third career and think i love what i do reguardless of who has the attitude against me... Dr., Nurse or who ever. I go home from work satisfied I did my best for those who needed what i do the most! I have to say one must do what makes them the happiest in life if you are not happy with what YOU do then change it but never let someone else decide your life for you.

And why do we keep telling someone to get out of the profession? It's looking like classic burnout to me, and if every burned out nurse got out (and I'm very close to that point), we'd be left with so few nurses that they'd burn out in a heartbeat. And then of course they have to get out, and then there's no nurses left.

lorster, you gotta search your soul. Take care of yourself. I agree with a good bit of your OP. I'm also very close to being burned out. I switched over to peds, and it was the best move I could have made, but I still can't work full-time. One more shift per week and I would be in tears. Luckily my husband makes enough money that we can make do, but I need to figure out how to get myself out of this rut. And it's hard when I know that no matter what changes I make within myself, nursing as a whole is still going to be in the giant mess it currently is. I hope that you can find your way back to being happy with nursing. I hope I can too. Because I love what nursing should be, I just hate what it actually is.

Specializes in Trauma,ER,CCU/OHU/Nsg Ed/Nsg Research.

About 1/3 of the nurses on my unit are male, and they are very caring individuals. Most of them are also big, burly ex-military guys. Let me tell ya, they are much more in tune with their own feelings than lots of people.

I totally agree with lorster. I am a happy happy person and most people would affirm this. It was because I got out of nursing 1 year after graduation with a BSN. One has to admit one has a problem in order to solve it and move on. No other profession that I know of would disrespect their own and put up with all the s... every single day and every other week-ends with that kind of paid. And don't get me started on the back stabbings and the weakness of character to stand up for ones own right. Lorster is not having a bad day, she's just stating the honest truth. It totally proves that she's one heck of an intelligent and insightful person. Trust me, if you get out, you will be so happy...just like me!

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