Nurses are Pathetic!!

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I have been reading thread after thread on this forum and I have come to one conclusion. We are all a pathetic bunch. We take abuse that most other human beings would not put up with. We are physically, mentally and emotionally abused by doctors, managers, patients, and families. We work ungodly hours, skip our much needed breaks without pay for months and years on end. And this goes on and on and on. The stories are endless. Then we are all shocked when a nurse who has had enough finally cracks and administers 32 vials of Dilantin and kills a patient. Is this so different than any other human being who finally after years and years of this abuse, just cannot take it anymore? I think not. When are we all going to stand up and demand decent pay, decent working conditions, and respect? Well, the answer is never because we are not a solid group. We have no autonomy or solidarity because we are a weak profession. We pit one against another. We ***** and backstab. We deserve all the abuse that is dealt to us. In nursing school, we are taught to make beds, empty bedpans and clean dentures. Instead we should get vast lessons in how to deal with some of the real issues that face us today. We are understaffed, overworked, pushed to the breaking point. But yet, the martyr instinct kicks in, we get up and go back and endure more of the same. When is enough, enough? When are we all going to come together and and start shouting about our working conditions and wages? We make less than a crew on road construction or a plumber. And look what we do. We are responsible for peoples lives. I went to work down the road as my current employer is union and I felt that maybe the non union hospital down the road would be a better place. Well, it is not, it is worse. 13 nurses have quit in the 6 weeks I have worked there. I won't renew my contract. It is just too unsafe. The hospital is all about profit at the expense of some great nurses. They even charge for an individual bandaid. It is ridiculous. I have decided that as soon as I can afford to, I'm getting out. I will no longer be a member of a profession that eats its young while at the same time, taking unwarrented abuse from unapreciative doctors that we bend over backwards for. Its not about making a living any more, it is about retaining some self respect, free of abuse by doctors, managers and other nurses who have nothing better to do than put a knife in your back the minute you turn around. At least at walmart I won't have to worry about making a life threatening mistake because I'm overwhelmed by what is required of me each day.

Specializes in Psychiatric, MICA.
"of course we are a pathetic bunch. i agree with so much of what the original poster has written." - amen!!

must be a location thing. the nurses i work with are not hyper-reactive, but i surely wouldn't want to be the one who disrespected any of them, publically or otherwise. they don't buy into the candystriper sex toy image. maybe that's pertinant, too.

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I am so very glad that we nurses have a place to voice our feeling, opinions and the facts of our jobs. I don't think that any of us are wrong in what we say, because we are saying what we feel and see. Just as we are taught that "pain is whatever the patient says it is", we feel and have the right to feel whatever we do based on what we have gone through in our professions.

Nursing is HARD. It is a job, it is not a calling. We have families and commitments which dictate our choices and still we DO have the right to be respected as we do our job.

I am glad for those in our profession who have been blessed enough to have found their niche in nursing right away and never had the loads of crap that others of us have had to endure. But the fact is that some of us did not have a clear enough idea of all aspects of nursing to choice the area right for us right off the bat and instead listened to those we thought that we could trust to steer us in the right direction.

We all do the best we can. We all deserve respect for trying to do the best we can. None of us need to be made to feel like crap because we choose to move towards something that might bring us more peace and happiness.

After all, isn't that what life is about after you have enough to take care of your basic needs?

Pretty much, get used to it. Clinicals were an eye opening experience for me. This is when I started my disillusionment with the nursing profession. When I graduated last May, I tried the hospital thing for about 5 months. I felt like vomiting before every shift and being newly pregnant almost miscarried. This is what I worked 4 years in school for?? No thanks! I am a school nurse now and very happy...though many do not consider me a "real nurse."

Many have attacked the original poster, I only see truth to her harsh words! Sometimes people are attacked for bringing the truth to light.

Off course school nurses are real nurses. ALL nurse BSN prepared RN's are equal and so forth. We are all just trying to find our niche. Bravo for you!

Let's not attack the original poster of "nurses are pathetic" message. Let's be honest, we are. We do take abuse. We are mistreated. We are underpaid. I joke with people and tell them I had to go to college to be treated like dirt. I used to work as a stocker/cashier for Fry's Food and Drug. If a customer mistreated me, they were asked to leave. In an 8 hour shift, I was given two 15 minute breaks and a 30 minute lunch break. If a manager mistreated an employee in front of a customer, he was taken upstairs to a private office, talked to, and then written up. Our benefits were cheap and wonderful. The company put aside 50 cents out of every dollar an employee earned and put it towards a 20 year retirement. We were protected by a UNION called UFCW Local 99. The UNION represented the workers. The UNION made sure we had retirement, affordable and excellent benefits, good pay, and wonderful working conditions. I left that job to become a nurse. Yup. Nurses have NO IDEA how other jobs treat their people because many of them haven't done much else in the way of work, especially corporate or union work. Now how is it that a Cashier/Stocker with a high school education or less can have such a great opportunity but nurses do not? Answer: Nurses are pathetic. Nurses have not learned how to get along, like we did in kindergarten and grade school, so that they could demand things like a real pension plan (not a 401K), affordable and excellent benefits, safe patient ratios, actual breaks throughout a 12 hour day, and respect from managers and physicians who are held accountable for their behavior. Can you imagine a physician or manager being told,"If you don't start treating our staff with respect or dignity, we will revoke your privileges at this hospital or fire you?" It is possible, but nurses will not do it.

You may all attack me as much as you want. Deep down, you have all felt the way the original poster did, and using synonyms like "apathetic", "codependent" or "weak" really doesn't cut it. Pathetic is a correct term. I tried to start a union once, but the nurse "rats" ran to management and "told on me" like kindergartners do, and I was asked to resign, which ultimately I did. They griped every day for a year about the deplorable working conditions, so I offered a solution. And what did they do? They did nothing as usual, except get me "fired" so-to-speak.

Band together, and the hospitals will have little choice but to meet your demands. Keep doing what you are doing as a profession...oops, I meant occupation, and everything will remain the same. Including the term "occupation"...because we do not behave as true professionals do.

very true

Specializes in ER, ICU, L&D, OR.

Too me, I just find it hard to believe that are so many unhappy and dysfunctional people in nursing. Or is it just a few unhappy ones with a silent majority and a Vocal Minority. Just curious

Specializes in Psych, education.
Too me, I just find it hard to believe that are so many unhappy and dysfunctional people in nursing. Or is it just a few unhappy ones with a silent majority and a Vocal Minority. Just curious

I think a lot of the problem is that nurses do not speak up. The unhappy ones speak up only to be shot down because the happy ones either do not support them, or management says, "Look, they're happy. You should be, too." Or, the party response is, "If you don't like it, leave." Unfortunately, all these responses lead to more chaos, disfunction, and unhappiness. Who would be happy in a facility that treats them with disrespect? No one. So is the answer to leave, or work to change the facility? Which one of these choices would benefit the most patients? Most nurses choose to leave.

Nurses make up the largest workforce in the US. According to our government system, we should rule by majority. But we do not because we do not fight for each other. Only 10% of RNs belong to our national organization, the ANA. In contrast, 98% MDs belong to the AMA. Who do you think will get the most political bang for their buck? Half the problem is that nursing has so many specialty organizations, state organizations, and other smaller organizations, and they are all expensive. The ANA would do well to drop its dues to entice more RNs into joining.

How can we truly take care of others if we do not take care of ourselves? Every other profession takes care of themselves first. This is not selfish. What it does is make the profession solid, strong, and ablt to do its job without interference.

Are nurses pathetic? Hell, no! But we do a lousy job standing up for and taking care of ourselves.

Please don't attempt to speak for all nurses by using the 'we' statements.

I agree with what you said.

Too me, I just find it hard to believe that are so many unhappy and dysfunctional people in nursing. Or is it just a few unhappy ones with a silent majority and a Vocal Minority. Just curious

You shouldn't even have to ask the question of majority or minority. I am assuming that you have actually talked to your co-workers over your "too many to count" years in the profession. Not just spoke to management and your patients. Or were you one of those ones who just discounted every negative thing that any fellow nurse had to say over your many years of service?

I have been reading thread after thread on this forum and I have come to one conclusion. We are all a pathetic bunch. We take abuse that most other human beings would not put up with. We are physically, mentally and emotionally abused by doctors, managers, patients, and families. We work ungodly hours, skip our much needed breaks without pay for months and years on end. And this goes on and on and on. The stories are endless. Then we are all shocked when a nurse who has had enough finally cracks and administers 32 vials of Dilantin and kills a patient. Is this so different than any other human being who finally after years and years of this abuse, just cannot take it anymore? I think not. When are we all going to stand up and demand decent pay, decent working conditions, and respect? Well, the answer is never because we are not a solid group. We have no autonomy or solidarity because we are a weak profession. We pit one against another. We ***** and backstab. We deserve all the abuse that is dealt to us. In nursing school, we are taught to make beds, empty bedpans and clean dentures. Instead we should get vast lessons in how to deal with some of the real issues that face us today. We are understaffed, overworked, pushed to the breaking point. But yet, the martyr instinct kicks in, we get up and go back and endure more of the same. When is enough, enough? When are we all going to come together and and start shouting about our working conditions and wages? We make less than a crew on road construction or a plumber. And look what we do. We are responsible for peoples lives. I went to work down the road as my current employer is union and I felt that maybe the non union hospital down the road would be a better place. Well, it is not, it is worse. 13 nurses have quit in the 6 weeks I have worked there. I won't renew my contract. It is just too unsafe. The hospital is all about profit at the expense of some great nurses. They even charge for an individual bandaid. It is ridiculous. I have decided that as soon as I can afford to, I'm getting out. I will no longer be a member of a profession that eats its young while at the same time, taking unwarrented abuse from unapreciative doctors that we bend over backwards for. Its not about making a living any more, it is about retaining some self respect, free of abuse by doctors, managers and other nurses who have nothing better to do than put a knife in your back the minute you turn around. At least at walmart I won't have to worry about making a life threatening mistake because I'm overwhelmed by what is required of me each day.

Good going!!! Actually, I find your thread quite refreshing. Albeit, it is at times a little over done and generalized, but I certainly could relate. And I'm a well adjusted, not burned out nurse. I read through a few pages and got the just of the responses and feelings that you generated. Sorry, but the one about us nurses being "angels" is just too much. O.K., you mean well, but give me a break! I enjoy doing good for my fellow being but I do have reasons for setting limits and not turning my cheek. I don't let myself get abused by doctors or patients. I have learned how to professionally and with calm stick up for myself. Even martyrs need to pay the bills, so give me more money and don't think I'm satisfied just because I know I'm doing good in this world.

Ambil

I think someone has some job burnout. I've got it as well, but I am going to try to change disciplines. I'm tired of the "floor" nursing, tired of dressings, vital signs, and so much more. I've been a nurse for over 10 years, was a CNA as well as a unit clerk for about 20 or more. I'm almost 47 now, have had C6-7 fusion last December, might need to have shoulder surgery. And I'm pretty well disgusted with my employer. Yup, I'm burned out. I'd like to try psych, and maybe even in another state. I sometimes work psych now. It's not always easy, and it can be hard, but in such a different way.

If you find yourself hating colleagues, your job, whatever, try a change in disciplines--working in a doctor's office, urgent care clinic. Maybe try travel nursing if you can.

Good luck!

faroe

I have worked in a hospital as a Pharmacy technician for over three years and now I am in nursing school. I have to say that nurses are not pathetic they are brave women and men who chose to help people regaurdless what the situation is. I feel that each person who is a nurse choose this field because they want to help people. I know that I haven't worked in the field as a nurse yet but I do have to say that I HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR THE WOMEN AND MEN WHO ARE NURSES. Dealing with the attitudes from doctors, pharmacist, patients, and fellow nurses can be very stressful......but each and every nurse chose this profession and no one put a gun to their head and made them chose this profession. I am in clinicals but I haven't been treated with disrespect because I treat people with respect.....for the women and men who hate their job then I truly think that you are in the wrong profession.....if you can't deal with it then maybe wal-mart is the job for you, I know that when I become a nurse it is not going to be easy but I am not going to be negative either.....I feel that if you pray and ask Our LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST he will help you in everything you do.....well hope everything goes well for those who hate being a nurse just don't make it seem like every nurse gets treat wrong all the time because they don't .......

Take Care and God Bless

Specializes in Trauma,ER,CCU/OHU/Nsg Ed/Nsg Research.
Lorester,

As long as it is "good on my floor" then no one is willing to fight for change and who cares if 100 other nurses are caring for too many patients with too few resources and being verbally abused.

Although the intensity of your original message was somewhat alienating to many I think martyr and pathetic are a pretty realistic summation of the state of nursing currently.

I sure hope these new graduates can rise up and demand change.

I strongly disagree. Consider that we may work on "good floors," because we either fight for good working conditions, or we actively sought out those units.

I would also like to point out that you agree that nurses are pathetic martyrs, while at the same time hoping the new nurses take action. Huh? :confused:

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