Nurse Saturation

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Would there be an RN saturation for the next three years? The projected job growth for PAs is 3 times more than RN

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Beware of overgeneralized statistics. If you are in the USA, this is a large country with many differing places. Nursing can be both oversaturated or running a shortage depending on the place.

If you read here long enough, it seems like new grads and even experienced nurses have trouble finding jobs in places like NYC, most of California and areas that have a high concentration of nursing schools. Other places, I suspect less desirable places for people to choose to live, have nursing shortages. Look at specific job markets to get a better picture.

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3 hours ago, implathszombie9 said:

Would there be an RN saturation for the next three years? The projected job growth for PAs is 3 times more than RN

Source? 

 

Also- (example only) 3% growth for PAs might mean 1000 more will be needed, while 3% growth for RNs might mean 90,000. 

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2 hours ago, RNperdiem said:

Beware of overgeneralized statistics. If you are in the USA, this is a large country with many differing places. Nursing can be both oversaturated or running a shortage depending on the place.

If you read here long enough, it seems like new grads and even experienced nurses have trouble finding jobs in places like NYC, most of California and areas that have a high concentration of nursing schools. Other places, I suspect less desirable places for people to choose to live, have nursing shortages. Look at specific job markets to get a better picture.

Sounds like that makes sense. I’m currently in Houston.

 

1 hour ago, meanmaryjean said:

Source? 

 

Also- (example only) 3% growth for PAs might mean 1000 more will be needed, while 3% growth for RNs might mean 90,000. 

Explain how you got those numbers please

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52 minutes ago, implathszombie9 said:

Sounds like that makes sense. I’m currently in Houston.

 

Explain how you got those numbers please

Well, if you re-read my post, I said EXAMPLE ONLY and MIGHT. I was comparing the relative number of PAs to RNs. 

 

While you said definitively "The projected job growth for PAs is 3 times more than RN" without providing the requested source. 

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1 hour ago, implathszombie9 said:

 

 

Explain how you got those numbers please

I believe she was sort of asking you the same thing, in a slightly different way...

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Agree, it is very much a local question.  I think Houston is a good market since there are so many hospitals, but someone working there would be best to answer.  I imagine if you went rural Texas, there would be a shortage.  

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1 hour ago, meanmaryjean said:

Well, if you re-read my post, I said EXAMPLE ONLY and MIGHT. I was comparing the relative number of PAs to RNs. 

 

While you said definitively "The projected job growth for PAs is 3 times more than RN" without providing the requested source. 

Why are you so mean? It’s jusQuestion and I read your postt Question and I read your post

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I remember in the 90's there was a saturation in the NE and many of them came to Florida to work where there was a shortage.  So I do agree that it's a local phenomenon.  Here in Florida where the population is growing, I would say the need still out paces the number of nurses.  Maybe not so much in areas that are losing in population.

 

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On 9/27/2020 at 8:26 PM, implathszombie9 said:

Why are you so mean? It’s jusQuestion and I read your postt Question and I read your post

I didn't read that tone as "mean"  I believe they were just trying to make it clear that they were only making an example to show that "3x higher" without ANY context doesn't mean necessarily that there will be a nursing saturation. 

I also agree that saturation vs shortage is very location specific

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1 hour ago, areason4stars said:

I didn't read that tone as "mean"  I believe they were just trying to make it clear that they were only making an example to show that "3x higher" ANY without context doesn't mean necessarily that there will be a nursing saturation. 

I also agree that saturation vs shortage is very location specific

Yeah but all caps is yelling and condescension is just asking for problems.

That’s why I barely come on this site.

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1 hour ago, implathszombie9 said:

Yeah but all caps is yelling and condescension is just asking for problems.

That’s why I barely come on this site.

Sorry if you always see caps as yelling , I understand that is the meaning some/most of times but I know sometimes caps are used for clarification and to help place emphasis (esp with  the lack of inflection and tone vs regular conversations) . It's very hard to read someone's tone so I try and give people the benefit of the doubt if at all possible when it comes to  thinking they are being "mean". 

Personally I wasn't trying to be condescending. 

 

I wish this site would let you  edit after the first 15 mins or what not... I meant to put the word ANY after the word without.. it my previous post

it should say without any context. 

 

 

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