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Nurse Practioner field going to dissappear!!!

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by bailey2227 bailey2227 (New Member) New Member

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Hi,

I've just gotten done talking to some reliable sources about the future of the Nursing profession. There have been alot of talks, and a meeting is probably going to be held this Summer about changes to come. I have a feeling they are going to change the job responsbilities of Nurse Practioners in the years to come.

What does that mean you might ask??? Lower salaries and a lot less responsiblity. Please don't get me wrong for all you nurses out there in the field. I'm just saying for someone like my self who is 27 yrs old and starting off. I think that all the research I am doing is going to pay off. I think Nurses who are Nurse Practioners now will be grandfathered into where they sit now. Otherwise, I think you can count on HUGE pay cuts in the field, and less of being able to do what MD's have done in the past.

Looking at it!!! I can see it from two different angles. Nursing has caused alot of people to say I'm not going to go to Medical school when I can go to school for six years and be making the same amount of money.

Please don't start making discussions about the money. I've read 100 different posts on here saying that if you are looking at the money you are in the wrong profession. I'll sit down and challenge ALL of you 1 on 1 on the discussion of money. MONEY is HUGE in this day and age. I'm not saying money is all that matters. I'm saying money is important.

So, what is my conclusion. Anyone who is thinking about just starting off in the Nursing profession with long term goals of being a Nurse Practioner and making $150,000 you better turn around.

I think Nursing is going to be in need of good nurses for the next 25-30 yrs to come. I don't think the advanced nurses are going to be making $100,000 for much longer.

Just my two cents.....

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Quickbeam is a ASN, RN and specializes in Government.

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I think this is very geography dependent. For 20+ years I've seen friends (a lot of them) get their MSN/NP and end up back doing regular RN work at the bedside when opportunities were not there for them. The challenge was to find a job that equaled their RN pay but with the better hours and schedule. I heard a lot of "wow, I got an MSN (an expensive degree) and now I'm going to be making less money than I did a an RN!".

On the flip side, my state just strengthened the role of the NP and added more independent functions and privileges. I don't think they are going anywhere. And as a survivior of many point of entry debates, I don't think anything is going to happen in a hurry. Just MHO.

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VIXEN007 specializes in Med-Surg.

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I think that is a lot of crap. Maybe NPs won't make $100k, but some other specialties will be cut as well. NPs are going to be in more demand than ever before. There is a shortage of Primary Care docs and a shortage of people who have insurance. Many of the specialties are also short because of the crazy med school cutbacks during the 80's. I would rather be a NP than an MD. I don't care about the money. I care about the encounters and the opportunity to help patients take care of themselves. I didn't know that people went into Nursing for money.

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CarVsTree specializes in Trauma ICU, MICU/SICU.

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What are you talking about? Your reliable sources, what are they? NP rules are decided state by state (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

As for salaries of $100-150k, most NP's aren't making that kind of $$$ right out of school. Anesthetists are a different category along very different risks and hours. As to salaries for CRNA's someone who is one would be better to answer that question.

One more question... If all NP's go away, who will fulfill those spacs. There is a doctor shortage as well as a nursing shortage.

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Gennaver is a MSN and specializes in Ortho, Med surg and L&D.

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Hi,

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So, what is my conclusion. Anyone who is thinking about just starting off in the Nursing profession with long term goals of being a Nurse Practioner and making $150,000 you better turn around.

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Just my two cents.....

Hi,

If money is the sole motivator for anyone's choice in a career/profession and life's dedication then there is the risk of a "life unfulfilled" and being absolutely miserable anyhow.

So, about these meetings this summer, are you talking about statewide, countywide, nationwide, a specific hospital or health care group or what exactly?

Far as I've heard the NP entry level is being raised to the Doctorate level, which is okay by me.

Gen-still a student pre-NCLEX, (until this summer! hoping to graduation within two plus weeks!!!)

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sirI is a MSN, APRN, NP and specializes in Education, FP, LNC, Forensics, ED, OB.

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sue, I moved to NP forum as you were posting.

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How about you reveal the identity of your "reliable" sources?

NPs, CNMs, and CRNAs (and other mid-levels) are not going anywhere anytime soon. There is simply not enough healthcare providers to go around.

These meetings that you have mentioned. Are they professional organization meetings? State government? Federal Government?

The sky is not falling. :uhoh3:

Welcome to Allnurses.com too! :welcome:

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Hello,

My information I've gotten is obviously not going to be just released to the general public. Like I said wait and see. But, I will give you at least this much information.

Aside from being told from several reliable sources. I know let's just say on the low side 100+ people who work in the medical field. Personally know these people. Nurse Practioners are doing jobs that MD's were doing 10 yrs ago. I don't know about you. But, if I had the choice between having someone with 15 yrs experience or someone with 5 yrs experience doing work on me. I wonder who you are going to chose.

Aside from that. There is also going to be a major shortage of clinical instructors, which is going to mean shortage of schools and classes being offered.

Now, I am just trying to help people out on here. I don't want to see someone with dreams such as myself get there hopes lost.

I've shadowed Crna's. Everyone who thinks this is some joke. or I am out to ruin people's dreams. Think again. I am a christian male. I spent 5 yrs active duty in the military prior to coming up with this. you guys can jump the gun all you want. i'm pretty sure this is a free public speaking forum.

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sirI is a MSN, APRN, NP and specializes in Education, FP, LNC, Forensics, ED, OB.

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actually, no this is not a free-speech forum. according to the tos of the site:

freedom of speech?

although the constitution of the us guarantees that “congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech”, allnurses.com is not congress. freedom of speech rights do not extend to this privately owned website. the tos/guidelines of this website governs the behaviors and activities of the members. if you choose not to follow the guidelines agreed to during registration, the result is a disabling of your account.

if you have evidence/facts to support your statement, please divulge.

conjecture and opinion is of zero value here in this forum.

so, if you cannot reveal your "reliable sources", there is no need to have this discussion.

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