Preceptor From Hell-Need Advice

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I spent 12 hours with the preceptor from hell last week, and I'm dreading going back to work tomorrow.

A little background: I completed my 7th week of orientation at a new facility, having 3 years experience. I will be critical care float pool for a pediatric hospital, and am about halfway done with my orientation. I've had 10 preceptors so far with positive feedback from all of them, and am becoming increasingly confident in my transition from peds med surg to critical care. This patient was an intubated toddler, on propofol, with a planned extubation the next day. I was placed with this new preceptor because mine had a schedule change.

This shift did not start off positively. I approached my patient's room and the nurse at the desk introduced herself, I realized she was going to be my preceptor and introduced myself as well. I then peaked through the window into the room, and said, Well I am ready to start report, but I don't see the day nurse.” My preceptor snaps at me, clearly irritated, I'm the nurse. I came in at 3. You can come in at 3 and still work a night shift. It's called a double.” I'm a little taken aback, but just mumble okay great” and follow her into the room for report. I do tell her that I'm not very familiar with propofol, I had only been exposed to it twice on patients that were extubated quite early in the morning.

The shift continues, but does not go well. My preceptor criticizes my every move. How I put eye drops in, how I reposition the patient, how slow I complete oral cares, that I don't know how to bolus the propofol properly (I wasn't sure how to program the pump), etc. She would even pop her head into the room to chew me out for not charting something, when I was still in the middle of my charting.

She laughed at my questions when I dared ask them. She even gave me the wrong answer when I asked if a certain lab needed to be on ice (the policy said to put it on ice if it would not be run in 30 minutes. Turns out, they run ICU labs immediately and it does not need to be on ice, so I just did useless busy work).

She also let me know she was willing to throw me under the bus. She was describing how I would need to assist the patient during the xray, you need to watch that tube. Because they aren't watching it, and they are gonna say it's fine. But if it comes out, it won't be me that's in trouble. It will be you.” When Xray did come, she did not help me position the patient.

If this was the worst of it, I could handle that. But, she even found a way to criticize me for something that happened on a previous shift, while simultaneously making me paranoid that the whole unit hates me. In the middle of criticizing my charting, she says, people have been talking about you, you know. Last night, you know you shadowed the admit? Well, you said something to the family. You were supposed to be a fly on the wall, not saying or doing anything except maybe asking the nurse questions if they have time. You were way out of line. If that had been me, I would have thrown you out of the room and chewed you out. But (nurse's name)'s a newer nurse. She's not as salty as some of us. Yeah, I thought I'd let you know cause if it were me, and I did something wrong, I'd want to know.” Sadly, I know this means people have been talking about me, because she was not there that night. I also do not know what I may have said to the family, because nobody brought it up to me at the time.

I understand that ICU's are full of nurses with strong personalities” and that there may even be some hazing of new nurses. However, this seemed too aggressive for that. I have a meeting with my educator to discuss what happened, partially because I am nervous this nurse will report me for incompetence, and partially because I feel like I should report her for being so unprofessional.

Any advice would be appreciated!! I am very nervous to say something to management and have it come back to her, especially if people on the floor already have a low opinion of me. I've really liked this job so far, but now I'm dreading going back.

I would just buck up and make it thru the day. You hopefully will have little interaction with her once orientation is over. On the other side of that coin you are not a new nurse. It's ok if you position Suzy patient one way and she does another. When it comes to you having faith in your care I would defend yourself if need be. IE: thx for the input I'll take it into consideration next time but for right now the patient seems to be comfortable with how I put her. Sometimes people are just nasty no matter what you do. she could be like looking for a reaction too. Good luck!!!

Side note: document everything, just in case you need to CYA.

Specializes in LTC, Rehab.

To me, people like her are the weirdest thing about this profession.

I didn't read through your whole post, but if you're discontent with your preceptor, ask for a different one. You are right that orientation in ICUs and ERs is generally not pleasant or enjoyable, but there is only one way to fix it: either live with it or ask for a change. If your preceptor is truly being a difficult/unprofessional person then you should report it. It is just a job and you're entitled to work with pleasant professional people without being harassed or belittled. You could also confront your preceptor directly about your concerns (which would be my first tact) and see if she can accommodate your needs. I don't know what to tell you except nursing can be a weird environment. Just stay professional, learn, be good to yourself, be good to your patients, and everything will work out.

Yikes! You, yourself, need to do something about it STAT. Just ask your manager to assign you to a new preceptor. No need to bad mouth your current preceptor, you never know, he/she might even be close to your manager! Training with someone is similar to dating, it's either a perfect match or not! It's obvious that you two are not compatible! :facepalm:

The moment the OP complains about this "preceptor," she/he has one foot out the door. Even asking for a change in preceptor puts the OP one foot out the door. Not saying that the OP should just take it, but that is the reality of some nursing workplaces nowadays.

Definitely agree with documenting (who said what, what was said, when it was said, how it may you feel, etc.) in case things go sour. Just the facts. Don't assume the "why."

OP, is the plan for you to work the night shift after orientation? How much time left do you have for orientation?

I kind of agree when you said "but that is the reality of some nursing workplaces nowadays."

However, if it's unhealthy, one has to do something about it and not just "to suck it up."

She, I believe, is in a spot where the preceptor can easily tell her manager that she is unfit for the unit. So, I'd rather fix the problem now by asking for a replacement, like soon! I don't and will not tolerate bullies. Unless you let them!

So it's like damn if you do and damn if you don't! If I were the OP, I'd rather do something and that is standing up for what is right, this in turn, may define her future in nursing! :uhoh3:

The moment the OP complains about this "preceptor," she/he has one foot out the door. Even asking for a change in preceptor puts the OP one foot out the door. Not saying that the OP should just take it, but that is the reality of some nursing workplaces nowadays.

Definitely agree with documenting (who said what, what was said, when it was said, how it may you feel, etc.) in case things go sour. Just the facts. Don't assume the "why."

OP, is the plan for you to work the night shift after orientation? How much time left do you have for orientation?

Specializes in 15 years in ICU, 22 years in PACU.

If I am reading the OP correctly she has been in orientation for 7 weeks. Assuming 12 hour shifts that's 21 shifts of preceptorship and she has had 1 shift with this "bad" preceptor. Unless you are now permanently assigned to this one preceptor, suck it up and move on.

Do NOT specifically report this preceptor to management for unprofessionalism. As a new nurse, that is just asking for trouble. Depending on where in the hierarchy she is, you may well have a target on your back.

If you are now stuck with her and cannot find common ground after a couple of tries then you can ask for a different one that might be a better fit. There will always be people you connect with more than others but you still have to work with them all.

Someday you may be working some crazy double and at the last minute thrown to the wolves with a new orientee and not at your best.

"OP, is the plan for you to work the night shift after orientation? How much time left do you have for orientation?"

I will be working straight nights when off orientation, and initially will be working between 2 units. I have about 6 weeks left of orientation, however after this week I will be precepting with float pool staff.

Well thanks for the feedback everyone! I spoke with my clinical educator off the record, and went into everything that happened. With my permission, she will speak with this nurse's educators asking if she normally precepts and anonymously mentioning that her staff had a negative experience with her, and that she maybe isn't the best choice for precepting. My educator voiced sympathy for my experience, and did say she remembered this nurse from when she used to float to the unit, and recalled her being fairly rude on a regular basis. Luckily, I should not have her as a preceptor again. If I do get assigned to her, I plan to ask the charge nurse for a reassignment prior to the shift start. There's also a good chance I will not work very closely with her as float pool tends to be assigned down the less intense hallway.

By chance, my neighbor tonight was the nurse I would have shadowed for the admission last week, and she seemed appropriate throughout the shift. Whether that means she will only talk behind my back vs. to my face, I can't say.

Specializes in ED, Cardiac-step down, tele, med surg.

Sounds like you have a great plan in place! Good luck and let us know how it goes.

I just don't understand why some of you feel that anyone who is "new" should put up with foul treatment from older staff members. Nursing as a profession is stressful enough for all sorts of other reasons. No one has time to deal with toxic, bullying behavior from coworkers. Being rotten and disgusting towards fellow staff is not cute nor should it be tolerated. We're all supposed to be grown people here.

As a preceptor, they are there to teach and/or lead by example and if not, get out. Some of these folks act like someone forced them to take on this role. If that was the case, please don't take it out on the preceptee. They've got problems at home, with their job or with life in general? Please don't take it out on the preceptee. They're not there to be their personal punching bag. They are there to earn a living just like them.

No, the OP should not have to suck it up and just take it. And so what if she's not liked by others for standing up for herself? This is a job not a popularity contest. That preceptor was unprofessional and unhelpful. The OP will never learn this way...period.

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