Published Jun 14, 2005
sunnyjohn
2,450 Posts
Does anyone have a list of hospitals in DFW that do not use Group One?
I looked on the website at the "client" list, but I would like to here form people who know first-hand.
Anyone?
self-serving bump.
No one?
mydesygn
244 Posts
Does anyone have a list of hospitals in DFW that do not use Group One?I looked on the website at the "client" list, but I would like to here form people who know first-hand.Anyone?
Honestly, the list contains all the major hospitals in the DFW area. Most hospitals are affilated with one of the hospitals on the list and a lot of the major nursing agencies are on there. I suppose the only places not on there are LTC facilities. If you're not sure if they are the easiest way to tell is when you apply to a facility, they will ask you to sign an authorization for a "consumer report" (note the language) not a "credit report". More often than not this is a GroupOne report. If you have never been terminated form a healthcare facility in DFW, you probably have no reason for concern. If you have, you should request a copy of your report from the company. I don't know what they charge for fees but from what I understand if you were denied employment, they are obligated to allow you to purchase/give you a copy. Bear in mind, some facilities do not pull a report until they are prepared to offer employment (I suppose they don't want to pay for a report on someone they do not intend on hiring). This being the case, you might want to acknowledge what is in the report and offer your explanation at the interview if you think they may deny employment based on the report info.
This is information form their website
"All terminations are reported to GroupOne when they occur, and are added to our database. When an applicant applies for a job at one of our member hospitals, their employment history is already in the database, ready to be accessed. Because our service operates in accordance with the Fair Credit Reporting Act, we are able to provide our members with factual employment references without the fear of litigation."
"GroupOne Services is a "consumer reporting agency" operating under the legal authority of the federal Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA). This is very important because it provides employers the ability to share information on former employees through a third party reporting agency such as GroupOne.
Under the FCRA, employers who furnish such information are immune from "any action or proceeding in the nature of defamation, invasion of privacy, or negligence . . . except as to false information furnished with malice or willful intent to injure" the former employee.
GroupOne accepts full responsibility for ensuring that all of our practices and policies are fully compliant with the requirements of the Fair Credit Reporting Act, thereby maintaining our clients' protection. We back this responsibility with professional Liability, and Errors and Omissions Insurance.
Additionally, GroupOne has an attorney on retainer whose specialty is the Fair Credit Reporting Act. He is available to complement and support our clients' employment law counsel. There is a real difference between state employment law and provisions of the Fair Credit Reporting Act."
A previous thread on the subject
https://allnurses.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1185427#post1185427&conly=
GroupOne website
http://www.gp1.com
Here's the website:
Thank you for the reply.
If you go to the Group One website using the link you provided and click on the "MEMBERS" tab at the bottom left, it pulls up a long list of Group One "Clients".
I am sure that it does not mean that all of these folks use Group One for background screening, bt I've been burned before with horrid results.
I don't mind a background check, even and FBI check, but I'd rather not work for any entity that utilizes Group One if I can.
hollyster
355 Posts
Thank you for the reply.If you go to the Group One website using the link you provided and click on the "MEMBERS" tab at the bottom left, it pulls up a long list of Group One "Clients".I am sure that it does not mean that all of these folks use Group One for background screening, bt I've been burned before with horrid results. I don't mind a background check, even and FBI check, but I'd rather not work for any entity that utilizes Group One if I can.
:angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire Big Brother at his worst.
Chewy14
20 Posts
Honestly, the list contains all the major hospitals in the DFW area. Most hospitals are affilated with one of the hospitals on the list and a lot of the major nursing agencies are on there. I suppose the only places not on there are LTC facilities. If you're not sure if they are the easiest way to tell is when you apply to a facility, they will ask you to sign an authorization for a "consumer report" (note the language) not a "credit report". More often than not this is a GroupOne report. If you have never been terminated form a healthcare facility in DFW, you probably have no reason for concern. If you have, you should request a copy of your report from the company. I don't know what they charge for fees but from what I understand if you were denied employment, they are obligated to allow you to purchase/give you a copy. Bear in mind, some facilities do not pull a report until they are prepared to offer employment (I suppose they don't want to pay for a report on someone they do not intend on hiring). This being the case, you might want to acknowledge what is in the report and offer your explanation at the interview if you think they may deny employment based on the report info. This is information form their website"All terminations are reported to GroupOne when they occur, and are added to our database. When an applicant applies for a job at one of our member hospitals, their employment history is already in the database, ready to be accessed. Because our service operates in accordance with the Fair Credit Reporting Act, we are able to provide our members with factual employment references without the fear of litigation.""GroupOne Services is a "consumer reporting agency" operating under the legal authority of the federal Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA). This is very important because it provides employers the ability to share information on former employees through a third party reporting agency such as GroupOne.Under the FCRA, employers who furnish such information are immune from "any action or proceeding in the nature of defamation, invasion of privacy, or negligence . . . except as to false information furnished with malice or willful intent to injure" the former employee.GroupOne accepts full responsibility for ensuring that all of our practices and policies are fully compliant with the requirements of the Fair Credit Reporting Act, thereby maintaining our clients’ protection. We back this responsibility with professional Liability, and Errors and Omissions Insurance.Additionally, GroupOne has an attorney on retainer whose specialty is the Fair Credit Reporting Act. He is available to complement and support our clients’ employment law counsel. There is a real difference between state employment law and provisions of the Fair Credit Reporting Act."A previous thread on the subjecthttps://allnurses.com/forums/showthr...lemental ResultGroupOne websitehttp://www.gp1.comHere's the website:
GroupOne accepts full responsibility for ensuring that all of our practices and policies are fully compliant with the requirements of the Fair Credit Reporting Act, thereby maintaining our clients’ protection. We back this responsibility with professional Liability, and Errors and Omissions Insurance.
Additionally, GroupOne has an attorney on retainer whose specialty is the Fair Credit Reporting Act. He is available to complement and support our clients’ employment law counsel. There is a real difference between state employment law and provisions of the Fair Credit Reporting Act."
https://allnurses.com/forums/showthr...lemental Result
Actually, you do have to worry. I quit a hospital on the second day of orientation because I had not been in a hospital setting for several years an they had guaranteed me up to 12 weeks of mentoring, but on the second day i got a full load of patients - total care, diabetics. The second hospital i quit on the second day of orientation because they could not workout the schedule with my school (which came 1st since I was in the middle of the semester). So they reported me. I have never been fired from a job. I feel I did what was in the best interest of the hospital, the patients, and my license in the first case. NOTE: However, with the second hospital I told them up front about the first hospial. They had me write a statement regarding my side of the story and they hired me. They closed down a few months later, so I don't know if that had anything to do with their willingness to overlook it. I am in the fort worth area.
lindarn
1,982 Posts
Honestly, the list contains all the major hospitals in the DFW area. Most hospitals are affilated with one of the hospitals on the list and a lot of the major nursing agencies are on there. I suppose the only places not on there are LTC facilities. If you're not sure if they are the easiest way to tell is when you apply to a facility, they will ask you to sign an authorization for a "consumer report" (note the language) not a "credit report". More often than not this is a GroupOne report. If you have never been terminated form a healthcare facility in DFW, you probably have no reason for concern. If you have, you should request a copy of your report from the company. I don't know what they charge for fees but from what I understand if you were denied employment, they are obligated to allow you to purchase/give you a copy. Bear in mind, some facilities do not pull a report until they are prepared to offer employment (I suppose they don't want to pay for a report on someone they do not intend on hiring). This being the case, you might want to acknowledge what is in the report and offer your explanation at the interview if you think they may deny employment based on the report info. This is information form their website"All terminations are reported to GroupOne when they occur, and are added to our database. When an applicant applies for a job at one of our member hospitals, their employment history is already in the database, ready to be accessed. Because our service operates in accordance with the Fair Credit Reporting Act, we are able to provide our members with factual employment references without the fear of litigation.""GroupOne Services is a "consumer reporting agency" operating under the legal authority of the federal Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA). This is very important because it provides employers the ability to share information on former employees through a third party reporting agency such as GroupOne.Under the FCRA, employers who furnish such information are immune from "any action or proceeding in the nature of defamation, invasion of privacy, or negligence . . . except as to false information furnished with malice or willful intent to injure" the former employee.GroupOne accepts full responsibility for ensuring that all of our practices and policies are fully compliant with the requirements of the Fair Credit Reporting Act, thereby maintaining our clients' protection. We back this responsibility with professional Liability, and Errors and Omissions Insurance.Additionally, GroupOne has an attorney on retainer whose specialty is the Fair Credit Reporting Act. He is available to complement and support our clients' employment law counsel. There is a real difference between state employment law and provisions of the Fair Credit Reporting Act."A previous thread on the subjecthttps://allnurses.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1185427#post1185427&conly=GroupOne websitehttp://www.gp1.comHere's the website:
They must not use Group One here in the Pacific NW. I have never heard of them. Do you have to sign this disclaimer, or will they not hire you if you don't? I am just an in Your- Face New Yorker, but I would draw a line through the part of the disclaimer, that gives them permission to contact your former employer "for any reason" and hand write in a disclaimer of your own that states that you only give permission for the validation of you dates of employment. If they question that just say, that is all they need to know, and everything else is none of their business. When you think about it, even credit reports are none of your employers' business. If everyone did that they would not have anyone to hire, would they. Or just apply as an independant contractor, and be your own agency. Or form a group of independant contractors and have your own corporate attorney. That would take the wind out of thier sails. I might contact an employment attorney and get thier advice on how to handle this or what advice he has for you. I am glad that I don't work or live in Texas. I had enough problems in Spokane, with people who did not like NYers or Californians. I lived in both places and couldn't win.
Lindarn
They must not use Group One here in the Pacific NW. I have never heard of them. Do you have to sign this disclaimer, or will they not hire you if you don't? I am just an in Your- Face New Yorker, but I would draw a line through the part of the disclaimer, that gives them permission to contact your former employer "for any reason" and hand write in a disclaimer of your own that states that you only give permission for the validation of you dates of employment. If they question that just say, that is all they need to know, and everything else is none of their business. When you think about it, even credit reports are none of your employers' business. If everyone did that they would not have anyone to hire, would they. Or just apply as an independant contractor, and be your own agency. Or form a group of independant contractors and have your own corporate attorney. That would take the wind out of thier sails. I might contact an employment attorney and get thier advice on how to handle this or what advice he has for you. I am glad that I don't work or live in Texas. I had enough problems in Spokane, with people who did not like NYers or Californians. I lived in both places and couldn't win. Lindarn
That's a great idea to line through. The problem I think is that if you don't sign it, they won't go any further. This really infuriates me. I looked up the site for GroupOne and they even have universities and programs that are now using this as well, in addition to LTC and Agency. They actually have the potential to ruin someone. I could understand if it were something serious, but not for quitting during an orientation period, giving notice etc. I have been really contemplating the bsn after I get my degree - it would only take 13 mos, but the university that offers the program uses GroupOne as well. The worst part is that even with a credit report you are given the opportunity to defend yourself, but not with these people!!
( I added the highlight for reference). Good post
Have the potential? They did almost ruin me!
I had to take travelling jobs while they fixed the whole mess. No hospital in DFW would touch me! The entire Group One report was a series of errors and identity mixups and it still took nearly a year to clear up. During those months I met a few nurses and healthcare workers in DFW who had an impossible time getting work because of bad things vengful employers had said about them.
I have since learned to deal with Group One like any Credit Reporting Agency thanks to credit-savy friends. I had to to get it all cleared up.
I just want to avoid them if I can.
I never said not to sign it. I only said the line through the above items BEFORE signing it. And initial and date where you line through. I would still speak to an employment lawyer about their tactics. There has to be something illegal about what they do to people. If they are calling it a "credit report" and it is merely a tool for them to dig unfounded dirt on individuals, I would think that you could make a case for it. Maybe those of you can get a group together, find an attorney, and file a class action suit against them, in the meantime get some public support against what they do with an article in a couple of the papers. Find an investigative reporter. The longer they do this and get away with it, the longer it will go on. Look at the public's outrage with "identity theft". I think that the public would be outraged if they knew what they were doing, especially since they are siging up colleges and educational programs. You might be able to get a congressman interested in putting a stop to it. Also, when I left my last job, I ws given a choice as to what information I allowed to be given out concerning my employment there. I only allowed my dates of employment to be given out. Period. If you line through what don't allow Group One to obtain, you have put a stop to their unfair practices. Then neither your former employer or Group One can legally obtain you information. If the information is obtained by Group One, then you can sue. This is my suggestion to you and others that have been injured by Group One. If it were me, I woud try to get others in that sitiation and try to form a group that can file a class action suit against them.
If nurses and others refuse to sign the authorization, they cannot ge ahold of the information. READ WHAT YOU ARE SIGNING, AND DON'T HESTITATE TO CHALLENGE IT AND ASK QUESTIONS. JMHO, AND 0.02 CENTS.
Lindarn RN, BSN, CCRN
( I added the highlight for reference). Good postHave the potential? They did almost ruin me! I had to take travelling jobs while they fixed the whole mess. No hospital in DFW would touch me! The entire Group One report was a series of errors and identity mixups and it still took nearly a year to clear up. During those months I met a few nurses and healthcare workers in DFW who had an impossible time getting work because of bad things vengful employers had said about them. I have since learned to deal with Group One like any Credit Reporting Agency thanks to credit-savy friends. I had to to get it all cleared up.I just want to avoid them if I can.
Sunnyjohn, how did you get them to work with you? Were their claims against you as minor as quitting during orientation because of a scheduling problem, or because they agreed to a mentoring program, but immediately put you on your own? Do you think I shouldn't give up on nursing because of this? I would've died if I had gone through an RN program only to find out I was unemployable. I thought after so many years, it would be removed from your record, but it sounds like it's not.