No worries USA. Only healthcare workers will be exposed to ebola.

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Last night I read that the CDC is planning to transport at least one American Citizen with the ebola virus to Atlanta for treatment. Driving around today my car radio kept assaulting me with experts soothingly asserting that there is no reason for the American population to fear exposure to the virus. To a man they all went on to say that only healthcare workers were likely to be exposed.

If you're a healthcare worker raise your hand. Are you angry? Do you feel like you're being considered expendable? Less than fully human? Are you worried?

I don't favor deliberately bringing ANY known infected person across the ocean to this continent. OK, Ebola is not all that easy to contract. It's a lot harder to contract if it is thousands of miles away.

The virus is spread by contact with infected body fluids. So lets say a nurses aid in a hospital comes in contact with those body fluids (diarrhea, emesis, blood, whatever. Accidents happen even if you take precautions.) What is to stop her from spreading the virus to her husband or child? What is to stop a child infected in this way from spreading it within his classroom?

I have always been able to deal with the concept of ebola by reminding myself that it exists on another continent. Perhaps I'm being selfish, but I believe that anyone sickened in Africa should be treated in Africa. We don't need to help diseases spread around the globe any more than we already do.

NIMBY. In this case, NIMBY. I'm not a NIMBY kind of girl, but this terrifies me.

What do you think? What would you do if you were assigned a patient know to be infected with Ebola?

Specializes in ICU.

One of the biggest problems I have with this situation is WHERE they are bringing the patients. I am fully with Stargazer on this one - that doctor was careful and he doesn't know how he got it, and this strain is pretty dang virulent.

So.

We have a disease contracted by a man who wore proper PPE, a disease that can be fatal - and instead of outfitting a small hospital in the boonies with the most advanced equipment people can come up with on short notice to handle this patient and patients like him that will most likely show up in the future, we send him to Atlanta, a large city, where lots of people ride the MARTA (subway) together, which also happens to have one of the biggest airport hubs in the South... yeah. I get that the CDC is in Atlanta, but I don't think we should be bringing the disease into the country at all, and if we have to, maybe avoiding the major population centers where lots of people commute to work via public transit would be a good idea.

All it takes is one Emory worker not putting on PPE correctly (or putting it on correctly and getting exposed anyway, the way this physician was) and commuting home via the MARTA to really get the ball rolling in the US.

You know, just to prove a point, I googled busiest airports in the US, and here you go. It turns out that Atlanta's airport is the busiest airport in the entire world. :rolleyes:

"Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta international airport witnessed record passenger traffic of 55.22 million for the first seven months of 2013 making it the busiest in the world. The average monthly passenger flow during this period was 7.88 million, surpassing all other airports."

Source: Top 10 busiest airports in the US - Airport Technology

They are being taken to Emory UNIVERSITY Hospital. Which has a microbiologist working on an Ebola Vaccine. Something tells me that Emory personal have all ready been around the Ebola virus for awhile now.

Specializes in ICU.
They are being taken to Emory UNIVERSITY Hospital. Which has a microbiologist working on an Ebola Vaccine. Something tells me that Emory personal have all ready been around the Ebola virus for awhile now.

I am sure there are many people at Emory that are working around the vaccine, but I also imagine the number of nurses working directly in the lab with the virus/vaccine is probably similar to the number of microbiologists putting patients on the bedpan. Even if there are bedside nurses in those labs, does that matter? I am not going to say the experience I had in micro lab growing pseudomonas in a Petri dish was equivalent to the first time I took care of a patient with pneumonia from pseudomonas. Working with something in a laboratory and working on the same thing in a patient are pretty different experiences.

I am sure there are many people at Emory that are working around the vaccine, but I also imagine the number of nurses working directly in the lab with the virus/vaccine is probably similar to the number of microbiologists putting patients on the bedpan. Even if there are bedside nurses in those labs, does that matter? I am not going to say the experience I had in micro lab growing pseudomonas in a Petri dish was equivalent to the first time I took care of a patient with pneumonia from pseudomonas. Working with something in a laboratory and working on the same thing in a patient are pretty different experiences.

Part of the reason Emory is the destination is because the university hospital has a highly specialized ID isolation unit designed and staffed for exactly this type of situation. The individuals are not just being admitted to any open bed on a general med-surg unit, they're being brought to Emory precisely because it has appropriate facilities and staff to provide the level of care (including the level of isolation) necessary under the circumstances.

If it were one of us that caught some horrible disease in some other part of the world (let's say a part of the world not known for its great healthcare), would we want to be brought home to get the best care available, or would we want to be left there to take our chances, as many posters on the Ebola-related theads here have suggested over the last few days?

I don't understand why people are getting so whipped up about this.

Specializes in Med/Surg, Ortho, ASC.
I think you are selfish and I can't believe that you are a nurse. This is probably why the healthcare system is so screwed because of healthcare providers with your mentality. Did you get into nursing for the money?

Given that you, yourself, are not a nurse, perhaps you should refrain from passing extreme judgments on those who are. Having no frame of reference from which to gauge a nurse's experience or motives, it is unfortunate that you chose to express yourself this way. Your judgmental post will cause others to discount your opinions in the future.

Specializes in Emergency, Telemetry, Transplant.
You know, just to prove a point, I googled busiest airports in the US, and here you go. It turns out that Atlanta's airport is the busiest airport in the entire world. :rolleyes:

"Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta international airport witnessed record passenger traffic of 55.22 million for the first seven months of 2013 making it the busiest in the world. The average monthly passenger flow during this period was 7.88 million, surpassing all other airports."

Source: Top 10 busiest airports in the US - Airport Technology

Just for the sake of clarity, the pt was flown on a private medical plane into Dobbins Air Reserve Base, not into Hartsfeld. I had to look it up, but the air base is on the opposite side of the Atlanta metro area from Hartsfield. This certainly does not eliminate all the arguments against the transfer, but I feel that it is important to debate the correct issues.

But I'm American I'm a veteran and I'm in nursing school I work for the VA so my job is already solidified and my mother and grandmother were and still are nurses so I have every right to my opinion

Specializes in Emergency, Telemetry, Transplant.
But I'm American I'm a veteran and I'm in nursing school I work for the VA so my job is already solidified and my mother and grandmother were and still are nurses so I have every right to my opinion

I don't think people are upset that you have an opinion--they are not pleased with the rather rough and scolding manner in which you expressed that opinion. I have several relatives who are nurses. However, when I was in nursing school I really did not have the real picture of a nurse's life both on and off the job.

Thank you but I do stand by my opinion. I work with nurses daily who are just merely concerned about what the new healthcare bill will do to there "Private time". I wonder how effective as a nurse can you be when the focus remains in "private time". I meant no harm its just you guys are where I'm fighting to get to. I've worked in healthcare since I was 17 years old and the change in the behaviors in nurses are appalling. I understand workload viruses and thankless patients but as nurses and future nurses if the patients don't have us who will they have

Specializes in Emergency, Telemetry, Transplant.
Thank you but I do stand by my opinion. I work with nurses daily who are just merely concerned about what the new healthcare bill will do to there "Private time".

You are certainly entitled to your opinion and to express it--everyone on here is. It am left wondering, however, what does the healthcare bill (ACA I presume) have to do with the Ebola virus being brought to the US? If you read my earlier comments, you would see that I think it is good to have the infected doctor come to the US to be treated, but it is easy for me to say given how far away I am from the situation. At the same time, however, I can see how people can be afraid of this. This is not laziness or selfishness--it is merely nurses expressing their fears and their discomfort with bringing a deadly disease to the US.

Where else would you like an American to be treated?

Specializes in Emergency, Telemetry, Transplant.
Where else would you like an American to be treated?

::If you read my earlier comments, you would see that I think it is good to have the infected doctor come to the US to be treated::

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