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by HardtimesRN HardtimesRN (New) New Nurse

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I just received my results from the OBN required drug and alcohol assessment. I was diagnosed with general anxiety and no diagnosis under substance abuse. Is this beneficial to me? I failed a drug test. No diversion. Now have 3 years random drug tests and any recommended therapy. 

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AbbeyR has 21 years experience as a ADN, BSN.

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Are you able to still work? if so that seems doable.

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Yes! Still able to work thank goodness. 

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AbbeyR has 21 years experience as a ADN, BSN.

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What did they ask you at your assessment? That’s going to be my next step

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They asked me about my history using any drugs or alcohol. How much, how often, did I ever black out, how many drinks I drink and how often. They asked a lot of questions about alcohol. They asked about family history. They had me fill out a samsha drug and alcohol questionnaire. In the report they detail all of that, they watch body language. If you have an attorney ask who they recommend. The people my attorney recommended were more expensive but worth it. They can make your life much harder if they are biased at all. 

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AbbeyR has 21 years experience as a ADN, BSN.

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I think we have to use a provider that is associated with our states monitoring program.( I’m in MI) we’re neighbors LOL

I’m thinking short and sweet. Yes or No answers 

thanks for the response!

-A

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KatEverly is a BSN and specializes in ABSN Grad w/ previous BA in Psych.

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5 hours ago, AbbeyR said:

I think we have to use a provider that is associated with our states monitoring program.( I’m in MI) we’re neighbors LOL

I’m thinking short and sweet. Yes or No answers 

thanks for the response!

-A

Abbey, I’m in MI too and they make you use an HPRP certified evaluator, of which they give you 3 evaluators to choose from. However, if you are already seeing providers, if they are willing to get certified that is a viable option too as they may end up in the pool of potential evaluators you can choose from since they will be near you. 

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AbbeyR has 21 years experience as a ADN, BSN.

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@KatEverly

I am not in the program. The lawyer that has been advising me told me to complete a evaluation to help support my case since my hair follicle test came back negative. I am wanting to prove to the BON my allegations are med errors and not diversion. I haven’t even been referred and I’m so stressed by reading all these post. God bless you for going through that program b/ c it seems like a nightmare 

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KatEverly is a BSN and specializes in ABSN Grad w/ previous BA in Psych.

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Just now, AbbeyR said:

@KatEverly

I am not in the program. The lawyer that has been advising me told me to complete a evaluation to help support my case since my hair follicle test came back negative. I am wanting to prove to the BON my allegations are med errors and not diversion. I haven’t even been referred and I’m so stressed by reading all these post. God bless you for going through that program b/ c it seems like a nightmare 

I actually read your thread - that sounds like a nightmare, but I think your negative follicle test is going to be extremely useful.

 I would probably call around a bunch of substance abuse psychologists in your area and ask each of them if they are an HPRP certified evaluator (not just HPRP certified therapist, but an actual evaluator). One thing I learned is that HPRP will NOT give you the list of certified providers, but if you get a preemptive evaluation they will be forced to give it more consideration if it was done by someone who is HPRP certified. That’s why you have to call around and ask yourself. 
 

I’m actually not in HPRP (yet). But I am in sobriety court which is at least as bad, and I will probably be forced to enter HPRP soon. 

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AbbeyR has 21 years experience as a ADN, BSN.

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I researched that one of the formal complaints in the class action lawsuit against former participants was that HPRP is actually suppose to provide their clients with the entire list of evaluators but were only offering 3 and no more. Internal memos from the uppers in management tell their case workers to not tell them they have more choices were in the Lawsuit. it’s program I will not want to enter voluntarily. I can see how this is a good choice when you end up with no other choice if you want to keep your license. As someone mentioned it’s like “making a deal with the devil”. I hope you do not have to join. and have a positive outcome with your situation. 

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KatEverly is a BSN and specializes in ABSN Grad w/ previous BA in Psych.

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1 minute ago, AbbeyR said:

I researched that one of the formal complaints in the class action lawsuit against former participants was that HPRP is actually suppose to provide their clients with the entire list of evaluators but were only offering 3 and no more. Internal memos from the uppers in management tell their case workers to not tell them they have more choices were in the Lawsuit. it’s program I will not want to enter voluntarily. I can see how this is a good choice when you end up with no other choice if you want to keep your license. As someone mentioned it’s like “making a deal with the devil”. I hope you do not have to join. and have a positive outcome with your situation. 

Oh, that’s interesting, in a dark and deceitfully sad way. I didn’t know that. I did know that HPRP was involved in at least one lawsuit in the last few years but wasn’t sure of the claims made or the outcome. I fully plan to utilize the expertise of my RN attorney before signing a single letter of my name to a contract with them. 
 

I appreciate your kind words and also wish you nothing but the best in the future! I’ll keep an eye out on your thread and look forward to hearing that you were able to fully defend your position and keep HPRP at bay. 

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chadprepton has 7 years experience as a ADN and specializes in Telephonic and Addictions Nursing.

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On 2/26/2020 at 10:08 AM, HardtimesRN said:

I just received my results from the OBN required drug and alcohol assessment. I was diagnosed with general anxiety and no diagnosis under substance abuse. Is this beneficial to me? I failed a drug test. No diversion. Now have 3 years random drug tests and any recommended therapy. 

What did you test positive for?

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