NJ Licensure by Endorsement

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i am peanut, 22 years old and an RN from the Philippines. I currently hold a license from the State of Vermont and I am going to apply for a licensure by endorsement in NJBON.. now, my dilemma is i am still here in the philippines, i read the post about if you're not subjecting yourself for a livescan, it takes about 3-4 months for the process? I am now awaiting for my packet 4 which i don't have any idea when will it arrive,

my packet 3 has been completed last jan.24,2006. I still don't have my SSS no. since my agent will be forwarding it together with the packet. Can I ask for your advice on what shall i do? should i file it already while here in the phils. or just there in NJ? How about the license verification? Shall I use the nursys? VT is included. I hope you can shed light to my queries.

thank you very much.

it's me,

Peanut Cecilio:monkeydance:

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hello!

sorry for the late reply. i'll answer your question based on my decisions/experience since we seem to be on the same boat and only on what i know and discovered throughout this time.

i will take nclex exam through nm since they only require one to submit an otr plus the application forms and payment. no photocopy of any local license. no license number needed. no ces. no prc to get involved with. though they require fingerprinting and background check, it was clearly stated in the application-background check packet that they will still issue the permanent license even if the background check is not yet through.

i originally planned to take it through vermont, but as you can see with their application packet, a local license number and photocopy of the card is required. i inquired through many channels if i could just send the certificate of passing, letter of explanation, and maybe a copy of my id card claim slip, but i could not get a clear answer. and considering all the hoopla surrounding the nle, swearing-in, and all the snow-balling political circus related to it, i decided otherwise since too many ifs are involved. again, vermont doesn't require the ces, nor the background check.

i intend to work in nj since i have members of my family there. i will just endorse to nj when and if i get the license at nm. when licensing by endorsement at nj is concerned, it's still not really clear if the ces is not required as seemingly indicated in their packet by endorsement. though i will still prepare the ces forms and related documents in case the need arises.

with regards to how fast the three aforementioned states evaluate the applications and issue their att (particularly vermont and nm), conflicting posts can be found. but basing on the scenarious stated above, i guess my best bet is nm.

my primary reason why it seems i'm in a hurry to apply and pass the nclex exam is based only in one fact- a resume with a passing nclex in it is definitely a big plus. other concerns will just be dealt with later on.

i hope i answered your questions. feel free to pm me and i'll send you my email.

wish me luck.

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to: sakuji

thanks for the clarifications.. i hope you'll give us updates on your application every now and then. it would be a big help to us.

i wont wish you luck because that one could either be good or bad. i wish you blessings instead! abundant blessings!

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Honestly, NJ BON is giving me a headache. They give different people different answers. They replied to my email that they need the full course by course and Toefl. Does it mean they need the Toefl before they let you sit their NCLEX?

Well Sakuji it seems you plan to take the NCLEX in New Mexico now, not Vermont. Yeah the issue of NLE is slowing us all down. I think I'll go ahead with New Mexico too.

My only fear is that we will be stuck in New Mexico, I know one poster here she filed her endorsement for a year already. I asked peanutrn if she's an immigrant already because perhaps thats the reason why her endorsement was fast.

Anyway, lets all keep in touch so we can all help each other.

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in what thread did you read about the girl whose application to NM has been delayed for a year? can we contact her to learn what could be the reason for that?

i would like to be positive about our plan but realistic as well. anyway, different people have different cases.

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here's the thread

https://allnurses.com/forums/f235/new-jersey-has-made-changes-162613.html

read the 1st page, its there. :p

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I just passed NCLEX and will get license from NY. I plan to endorse my license to NJ as well. I read all you posted and confused. If I already passed the exam, do they still need TOEFL and CES?????

Anyway, I made a phone call to NJ BON today. I talked to couple people who were not friendly at all. They said I don't need either TOEFL or CES. I called and make sure again because as you guys know , diffirent people--- diffirent information!!! They transfer my call to same guys who was very rude and not polite. I am not happy about that. He transfer my call to his superviser because he think I was in pain:nono: His superviser answered me the same thing.... Dont need CES or TOEFL !!!!! for endorsement who graduate from other country. It's big confused for me right now!!!! Anyone who already did, can give me RIGHT answer about that.

Thank you.

Tarika

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I don't mean to give wrong information about the people posting in this site but what I am telling is about my own experience. I did not submit any CGFNS certificate nor did my co-workers here in NJ who have their licensure from California and Saipan endorsed to NJ BON. (Knowing that California and Saipan don't need CES from CGFNS/ICHP)

The last time I contacted the one processing my application, she just needed my livescan and ssn, and told me she can licensed me accordingly if she have both.

My co-worker who holds a license in california has a hard time getting his license from new york that is why he needs to move from a hospital in n.y. to a nursing home here in n.j., the hospital in n.y. gave him 2months to submit his license or show them his interim permit and n.y. bon did not issued him the license or permit,

but when he tried to applied to n.j. bon, in 2 weeks time, they issued it to him, granted that he requested a licensure verification from california bon since it is not included in the nursys.

i also forgot to mention that since vermont is included in nursys, i just send nursys the form and $30, and when i was still in the phils., and checked with nj bon, they had it already since it is an ONLINE VERIFICATION. the reason i wasn't able to get it in phils., is because i don't have an SSN, that is why I am telling the applicants that you can leave it blank if you don't have one and I did not submit my fingerprint cards because the process is expedited when you have the livescan through sagem morpho here in new jersey because you can't do it if you are out of state..

I stand to be corrected but I hope I am not 100% wrong. :-)

it's me,

peanutRN

NJ is still requiring the CES, you may have gotten lucky and got around that. If you look at their website, it states that you need the CES.

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NJ is still requiring the CES, you may have gotten lucky and got around that. If you look at their website, it states that you need the CES.

well!!! are there still need TOEFL also??? (by endorsement )

That's why I got a big confused!!!! I looked at their website. I READ it all! and then when I made a phone call, they gave me diffirent information. I tried to ask about information that they say on the site but he (a guy who work for people who want to endorse to NJ) said HE DOES HIS WORK AND HE DOESN'T WANT CES OR TOEFL. I had a big fight with him via the phone about thing they post on their site and thing that he said he did.....:madface:

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those educated outside us need to meet requirements of first state board of nursing (bon) that issues original license re toefl, ces, transcripts etc. nclex passage is part of licensure; licenese will not be issued until all credentials are verified by bon. once license certificate obtained, license can then be endorsed to another state. requirements for endorsement for foreign educated rn's varies by state.

nj licensure by endorsement:rn/pn application packet

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Tarika:

I feel you hehe, NJ BON is such a pain in the ***. they will give you different answers. BY email they told me they need CES and Toefl but when my friend called they said they don't need those. :p Anyway goodluck, I'll just get my CES and TOEFL to make sure.

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Here's another experience. A batch mate already has a license at Ca BON but was able to negotiate a better deal with an NJ hospital. He called, emailed, snail mailed and what-have- you NJ BON quite a number of times for clarification of their requirements for licensure through endorsement, particularly on the CES issue. Always, as in always, he received conflicting info. So he just made a sort of leap of faith; he forwarded his completed application by endorsement with payment but without CES (though he prepared the required docs WITHOUT actually having them forwarded to CGFNS). And guess what, he was issued a temporary license by NJ BON without the CES and just last week received his permanent license after his fulfillment of the SSN requirement.

Well, maybe the only way one will definitely know if NJ BON does issue a license via endorsement with or without CES is to go for it. That is pass the application by endorsement forms with payment to NJ BON and licensure verification from the original state but delaying the forwarding of docs and payment to CGFNS for the CES. Anyway, that is assuming one has a current license in atleast one other state. He/ she then can just fulfill the CES requirement and forward the same in case they are eventually sought by NJ BON. In the long run, it may become a slower way of obtaining one's license by endorsement but one that can potentially eliminate transacting with CGFNS and the darn PRC, and free some more funds that could be used for other purposes. Of course, all has to go through Visascreen which is done by CGFNS. But that is a different issue altogether.

Hope this helps.

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Thanks for your information. But the NJ BON doesn't issue temporary licenses, am I right? Your friend is one lucky guy. I know of someone who just applied recently---however, her application is still up in the air (although she’s already an RN in a different State) because she said that they were requiring her CES since she is a foreign graduate. If they give out different answers, maybe (just to be sure) I would just have the CES prepared and see if they would ask for it.

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