New grad looking for first job - what could make a hospital do this?

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I'm a new graduate; I graduated in January and received my license in April. The marketplace around here is pretty tough, but most people from my graduating class have found jobs by now.

I've had a lot of interviews in the area, mostly for ERs, with no job offer yet. I have several years of EMT experience and I most desire to become an ER nurse. This past week I had an interview at a level I trauma center.

My story here: This last hospital I interviewed at, I went in for an initial interview a week prior and then I shadowed the ER for about 7 hours. I met most of the staff that day (about 25-30 nurses as well as staff from other professions) and got along very well with virtually every single one of them. I did everything I could on the unit. My contact on the unit told me that the assistant manager was impressed and she told him that I would probably get the job.

I came back and met with the ER manager for my second interview. She was very excited and did most of the talking; telling me about orientation, the unit and hospital, etc. She asked me a few questions but I mostly had to interject to sell myself to her. At the very end of the 30 minute interview, I asked her if she could see me working out in the position. She said "absolutely," then I listened as she listed five reasons to hire me. She told me to call back in one or two weeks when the three positions were officially open. I asked her if there was anything that could prevent her from hiring me, and she basically stated that if she had three good candidates with experience then she may take them over me. Otherwise it sounded like my chances were pretty good, because she was having trouble getting those with experience in the door.

The next day, I got a call from HR saying that I was no longer being considered as a candidate. It was a very vague statement and she wouldn't go into detail beyond me not having any experience. I wondered if someone had trashed me or something, so I later emailed the HR lady who called me and asked her if she contacted my references, and she hadn't. My references later confirmed to me that they had not been contacted. I also sent a courteous email to the ER director who interviewed me, stating that I was disappointed but did not take the rejection personally, and I asked what I could have improved, and I got no response.

What would make such a ridiculous 180 occur? What I suspect is that somebody above her head must have told her not to hire me, and that it may have been strictly a business decision. Either that or there was some red flag that she thought she found on me; but even then, I can't imagine what that would be. It costs approximately $50k for the hospital to train a new graduate into the ER so it's one of the toughest units to get into as a new graduate, so any doubt in their mind could be enough to prevent me from getting the job.

Frankly I'm tired of being played like this. This is not the first time this has happened to me; where I've had an awesome interview and then got shot down less than 24 hours later. This next week I'm going around to manors from the area to see if it isn't significantly easier to get a job at one of them. I need to get my initial experience and hospitals have been bumming me out.

I'm going to have him ask, eventually, to see if there was something I could have changed. I'm not looking to get back in there.

I just applied for the ICU and saw nothing about a credit check. I don't recall signing anything at the interview either.

Specializes in Psych ICU, addictions.

There could be many reasons why you weren't selected, not all of which have to do with you:

They found a more qualified applicant.

They found an equally qualified applicant who had something a little extra that you didn't (related experience, bilingual).

They went with another applicant d/t nepotism.

They decided to go with an internal applicant.

They HAD to go with an internal applicant.

The position was cancelled, withdrawn, put on hold.

There was a disconnect with the person who interviewed you and the person who was actually the one who would hire you.

And lots more.

Then there are reasons that may have to do with you.

You e-mailed them and you received a response. It may not have been exactly what you wanted to hear, but it was a response...and in all honesty, they weren't even obligated to give you that. Pestering them to find out exactly why you weren't selected is not going to do you and your reputation any favors. The last thing you want to go is get on the bad side of nurse managers, recruiters or HR, because then your chances of getting hired will plummet drastically.

Yes, it does suck when those 180s happen. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.

Seriously, let it go.

Try to put it behind you and keep hunting. They told you that you could apply to other positions (and you did), so it's not as though you've been blackballed. And I agree with some of the other posters: just take whatever you can to get into the hospital. Then in a year or two, transfer over to the area you want to work in. Few people start in their dream jobs right out of the gate but have to work their way there.

Best of luck.

Specializes in Leadership, Psych, HomeCare, Amb. Care.

In addition to Meriwhen's reasons, I was also thinking that this recruiter...now gone, may have issues about being overly enthusiastic in her interviews.

Or, those above her may have dropped the hammer: No New Grads!

The recruiter doesn't actually hire people. She screens, brings people to the table, interviews, and makes recommendation. Only if the manager gives a thumbs up will she convey the offer.

Also, background checks aren't made until they've decided to hire, and contrary to AN rumors, credit checks are rare, and they Do need to notify you if a decision was made based on that report.

I also have that t-shirt, earned after 3 or 4 long meetings extending all the way up to the physicans' group! Time to move on.

Move on and good luck in your Job Search!

No, MrChicago, it was the ER manager who was enthusiastic.

As for "moving on," I thought I made it clear that I have no plans to contact the ER manager again. My friend who works there is going to ask her eventually, and he is going to ask her out of his own curiosity and tell me whether I ask him to or not. A lot of the staff wanted me in there.

You sound way too picky. Yeah I am a new grad too who has had great interviews looking for ED work but hell I will take anything that is acute care to get my foot in the door. Look at med surg, PCU or anything. People make hiring decisions for random reasons, it happens.

No. I said "mostly" ERs. When I see the ER opening that's been what I've been going for, but I had an interview at a PCU and a Med-Surg unit as well.

My friend works on the ER I interviewed at, and he gets along very well with the head manager. I'll see if he can get an honest answer out of her. Right now he's in a little trouble for restraining a patient a little too forcefully (it's a very tough ER) so he's going to let that cool off for a while before he asks.

Do NOT do this. You emailed the ER manager, she didn't respond, and any further attempt to get a response from her will torpedo any chance you have of working in that ER. You want to be remembered as that awesome new grad they had to pass on, not that new grad they almost hired who became obsessed and stalkerish and weird and thank god they dodged that bullet.

Do NOT do this. You emailed the ER manager, she didn't respond, and any further attempt to get a response from her will torpedo any chance you have of working in that ER. You want to be remembered as that awesome new grad they had to pass on, not that new grad they almost hired who became obsessed and stalkerish and weird and thank god they dodged that bullet.

well said...leave it be!

Specializes in CCM, PHN.

Do NOT do this. You emailed the ER manager, she didn't respond, and any further attempt to get a response from her will torpedo any chance you have of working in that ER. You want to be remembered as that awesome new grad they had to pass on, not that new grad they almost hired who became obsessed and stalkerish and weird and thank god they dodged that bullet.

This, this, this. As a member of a hiring panel, I could not agree more.

OP, time to maybe ask this thread be closed. All you're doing now is being defensive and sounding angrier by the second. Don't be the AN cliché of a new grad who posts asking for advice then gets mad when the older/more experienced nurses managers say stuff you don't want to hear, like the truth. Please. Okay?

Specializes in Forensic Psych.

well said...leave it be!

I agree. Leave it alone.

I had a similar experience this summer, except I actually had an offer and was set to start orientation.

The HR department at that hospital was absolutely atrocious and screwed everything up. They lost some of my stuff and spread bad information to my supervisor and they retracted their offer at 7pm on a Friday night through voicemail when I was scheduled for orientation on Monday.

I spoke to HR once after days of calling and was apologized to and told they'd call my department manager and talk to them and call me right back. Never heard from that hospital again.

The point that applies to you is that I'm not an aggressive person. I don't like bothering people, so my instinct was to let it go. But everyone around me kept telling me to send emails, call, o up there, hunt people down! Why wasn't I being a squeaky wheel? I let myself be talked into going against my gut and I completely regret it. That job meant everything to me, but I meant nothing to them, so I'm 99% sure I came across like a crazy stalker and 75% sure HR has me on some sort of black list.

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