New Grad Job Market: A Game of Chance

Someone smart once said: "insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." This article talks about the unhealthy trend of newly licensed RNs applying to numerous job postings for months and years without getting a job, and how the importance of education is downplayed in applicant selection process. Maybe there needs to be a change in the healthcare system so that new nurses are given a chance to show their knowledge and skills. Nurses New Nurse Article

It's no longer about whether you qualify for the job or not, or if you have more education and experience than the next person. Nowadays everyone passes NCLEX, everyone graduates with a 4.0, everyone has CNA experience, and yet still many spent months and even years to land that first job out of nursing school.

I don't think nurse managers and hospital administrators actually know the severity of the unhealthy new grad job market because all of them have given me the same suggestions (I only personally know one and other managers are friends of a friend): Get some CNA experience, Apply to new grad programs and Move to a different state. I have already done the first two and I think I may have to do the last one sooner or later.

Just weeks ago, I thought passing the NCLEX was mission impossible because I could not get my Kaplan Q bank score to be over 57%, but in the end, NCLEX seemed to be a piece of cake. Yes, I spent three hours at the test center but I passed on my first try. The thing is I never had PTSD with standardized tests or writing papers no matter how many times I had to do them and how hard they seemed. SAT, piece of cake. GRE, piece of cake, NCLEX, not exactly a piece of cake but maybe a slice of a cake?

However, I was traumatized multiple times when I applied for jobs.

First time was when I graduated from college with a BS in biology. That was in 2006 and no place would hire me. Eventually after 4 months of hopeless searching and going through some really dark period, my dad made some connections and I moved hundreds of miles away to work as a research assistant in a very cold place where the winter was long and harsh.

Second time was when I graduated from grad school with a public health degree. Still, no places seemed to want me so I moved again miles away to take some low-paying job with a well known national nonprofit organization in a hot desert where 100F was accepted as a comfortable and normal temperature. You would think third times a charm, but I was again denied for an entry level position.

Friends, good friends nonetheless I made at school became competitors and strangers, and they didn't give a damn whether I found a job or not. They stopped talking to me or hanging out with me as soon as they found a job. The more sympathetic ones would say, "you will find it" or "it's not just you." Eventually everyone moved on and moved away.

Yesterday, one of the CNAs whom I used to work with connected me with the HR person of a good nursing home. Hopefully I will get an interview and maybe even a job next week. Sometimes I asked myself why I kept going back to school when obviously what employers wanted was experience. Does two college degrees and one master degree means nothing to employers anymore? Is an intelligent person who published 2 papers in well-known scientific journals, who have volunteered for years, who had CNA experience, clinical research experience, and teaching experience not hireable in this market? Then why on earth do schools charge students a fortune to get a piece of paper, and more students want to carry tens and thousands of student debts so that they can put a B.S.N. after their names?

I chose nursing because I genuinely care about people and interested in healing them and helping them resolve whatever issues they got in their lives. Maybe that's no longer a good reason for why you want to become a nurse. Maybe I should erase that from my cover letter (note to self: don't mention you care about people just list your experience and accomplishment). If I was rejected by as many guys as the number of potential employers who rejected me, I would not want to date anyone anymore. I probably would even quit asking guys out after 3 rejections. And yet, here I am, filling out yet another job application, writing another cover letter, to number X employer (I lost counts on how many jobs I applied)...expecting a different result (maybe I will get lucky and get hired this time). Someone smart once said: "insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Maybe I am insane.

P.S. the last quote is from my hero Albert Einstein, who also said, "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." I think I am that fish who tries to climb a tree or pollinate a flower and believe I am not good enough.

This was good for you to read. You need to prepare yourself early on. Make friends with people that work where u want to work. Learn about the area you're interested in. Try to be top of your class.

That is a very good point. Its up to me to get where I want to go. Thanks for setting me straight.

Guys u have to realize this is not unique to nursing. If u see my previous posts on this thread as well as from others you can see many other healthcare professions are also suffering, like Pharmacy, Medical Assisting, and Phlebotomy. Tuition costs for med schools/PT are going up while salaries remain stagnant or are going down. Podiatry is facing a residency shortage. Realize healthcare isn't recession proof. When sum1 tells you nursing is hard to find a job now, well tell them so is everything else. Nothing is guaranteed in life. Tomorrow isn't. The question is are you willing to take the risk. I know I am, b/c if i don't then that means making fast food or retail as a career as I am not good at anything else besides the sciences.

Guys u have to realize this is not unique to nursing. If u see my previous posts on this thread as well as from others you can see many other healthcare professions are also suffering, like Pharmacy, Medical Assisting, and Phlebotomy. Tuition costs for med schools/PT are going up while salaries remain stagnant or are going down. Podiatry is facing a residency shortage. Realize healthcare isn't recession proof. When sum1 tells you nursing is hard to find a job now, well tell them so is everything else. Nothing is guaranteed in life. Tomorrow isn't. The question is are you willing to take the risk. I know I am, b/c if i don't then that means making fast food or retail as a career as I am not good at anything else besides the sciences.

You're right. Its hard to find a job in almost every field these days. I know so many people who have graduated from really good schools in a variety of areas and only a few of them are actually working in their chosen field. English majors working at Barnes & Nobles (sort of relevant), Film Majors driving ice cream trucks. All my Aunt ever wanted to be was a teacher, so she got a Masters in Childhood education. Unfortunately she became so disillusioned trying to find her first teaching job that she quit trying and has since worked in the insurance industry for YEARS. Its sad, but all you can do is work hard and make the best of it.

You're right. Its hard to find a job in almost every field these days. I know so many people who have graduated from really good schools in a variety of areas and only a few of them are actually working in their chosen field. English majors working at Barnes & Nobles (sort of relevant), Film Majors driving ice cream trucks. All my Aunt ever wanted to be was a teacher, so she got a Masters in Childhood education. Unfortunately she became so disillusioned trying to find her first teaching job that she quit trying and has since worked in the insurance industry for YEARS. Its sad, but all you can do is work hard and make the best of it.

Getting a job at barnes and noble can be quite difficult nowadays. Many English majors apply to B&N, even tho you'll get a minimum wage job, it is somewhat relevant to the field. It's however not a salary a person can live on. I also forgot to mention law. More than half of law school graduates cannot find work. Accounting can even be competitive nowadays in finding a job. My best advice is too network and build relationships with people that can hire you later on. If you want to become an RN, try getting a CHHA position or CNA/PCT, or a unit secretary position. Experience in your field is what will make you stand out from the crowd.

Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
"Dallas' Parkland Memorial Hospital saw $5.3 million net loss last month" then you read articles like this one blaming the nursing shortage for the most of the loss because it is causing.

"increasing reliance on expensive contract labor, the hospital said. Since 2011, Parkland has spent $32 million on traveling nurses and other outside contractors to fill its depleted ranks. It expects to spend an additional $8 million next year.

Temporary employees earn about 40 percent more than full-time Parkland workers. The hospital also must pay the staffing agency."This contract labor issue is killing us..."

Parkland's interim chief operating officer "said registered nurses, particularly those specializing in surgery and emergency care, are difficult to hire and retain. Parkland officials say a national nursing shortage makes temps more attractive. The hospital's regulatory problems also make it a tougher place to work."

Certainly they want experienced nurses, but certainly, it would be cheaper to hire new grads and train them with contracts to stay for a specified time than rather than spending on temporary help. It just seems so illogical. What's more the citizens of Dallas County are having to make up the losses and all the while don't realize there is no nursing shortage and there are thousands of new grads worthy of investing in.

Hospitals' highly paid PR staff put out this claptrap to gin up support for hospital admin. and paint nurses as greedy people causing financial difficulties to their local facilities. Why do they have to spend so much money on travel personnel? Because what they pay their regular staff is peanuts, and the working conditions are just short of a sweatshop factory.

Specializes in Registered Nurse.

OP, your post is very interesting. What's with all the degrees and no jobs. I wonder if the no job situation is related to the economy, degrees that don't train us to meet the demand for jobs in the market, or over saturation of students entering nursing or the medical field? I have the BSN and nursing experience, but I have not been able to change my nursing specialty. Employers are looking for experienced nurses in the specific specialty. I've had my BSN most of my nursing career, and one interviewer asked me if I did anything to further my education. Well Yes, I do complete my ceu's, attend inservices... But no, I did not pursue a masters nor am I interested in studying to be a nurse practitioner. Sorry, no certifications, either. Certifications are just becoming the trend in my state. So how much education is an RN supposed to have these days? Now the BSN is not enough. It may help, but it's no ticket to employment. I know nursing has "fast tract" nursing education leading to BSN, or MSN. Are these programs contributing to over saturation in the nursing field? It's possible that employers have found ways to limit the need for RN's. They understaff or hire one nurse and ask the nurse to be the delegator for several ancillary health care employees. I don't know the answers, but your post is an eye opener for me.

Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.

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Specializes in Geriatrics/family medicine.

It is true working as an nursing aide or tech can help you network and help get you a job later on, that is what I did, although my first job didn't last very long at least I got my foot in the door somewhere

Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
OP, your post is very interesting. What's with all the degrees and no jobs. I wonder if the no job situation is related to the economy, degrees that don't train us to meet the demand for jobs in the market, or over saturation of students entering nursing or the medical field? I have the BSN and nursing experience, but I have not been able to change my nursing specialty. Employers are looking for experienced nurses in the specific specialty. I've had my BSN most of my nursing career, and one interviewer asked me if I did anything to further my education. Well Yes, I do complete my ceu's, attend inservices... But no, I did not pursue a masters nor am I interested in studying to be a nurse practitioner. Sorry, no certifications, either. Certifications are just becoming the trend in my state. So how much education is an RN supposed to have these days? Now the BSN is not enough. It may help, but it's no ticket to employment. I know nursing has "fast tract" nursing education leading to BSN, or MSN. Are these programs contributing to over saturation in the nursing field? It's possible that employers have found ways to limit the need for RN's. They understaff or hire one nurse and ask the nurse to be the delegator for several ancillary health care employees. I don't know the answers, but your post is an eye opener for me.

Who wants to spend the money and invest the time to get an MSN to work at the bedside?

Another factor that comes into play is that many facilities know that new nurses will take whatever job comes along to give them the magic 1-2 years of experience that the jobs in more desirable areas require. So they are looking at spending thousands of dollars to train a new nurse, only to have them quit a year or two later. Training a new nurse is smart for facilities that fully expect to be able to retain a large number of their new grad hires, but if they are seeing a pattern of their new grads quitting within a couple of years, hiring travelers or holding out for experienced applications would make better financial sense.

Another factor that comes into play is that many facilities know that new nurses will take whatever job comes along to give them the magic 1-2 years of experience that the jobs in more desirable areas require. So they are looking at spending thousands of dollars to train a new nurse, only to have them quit a year or two later. Training a new nurse is smart for facilities that fully expect to be able to retain a large number of their new grad hires, but if they are seeing a pattern of their new grads quitting within a couple of years, hiring travelers or holding out for experienced applications would make better financial sense.

I am being hired at a hospital that hires travellers but also has a versant residency program. It seems like they may have a higher than normal turnover rate, although, some nurses have been there for years and years. Anyways, they asked me to repay over $5,000 if I leave before 2 years. This way hiring new grads and training them is cheaper than hiring travellers because they require the committment. When I wanted to become a nurse back in 2002, I met a new nurse who was not even graduated yet and was deciding between three hospitals to work for, all with sign on bonuses. Haha! Now I may have to pay my hospital if I leave, all while paying back student loans. And I am so crazy because I am really happy that I am going to start working in my dream career.

Specializes in Geriatrics/family medicine.