Due to recent changes regarding applications for International nurses to Australia and the combining of the nursing boards to one central nursing board in Australia AHPRA I have started a new thread for people to discuss the new process on working in Australia.
Currently New Zealand is not accepting new applicants from International trained nurses except those that meet the Trans Tasman Mutual Recognition Agreement {TTMR} this will be updated once the New Zealand nursing board reopen their books to International nurses.
Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency AHPRA
"GOT THE IDEA" ??? What are you talking about you idiot ? What I wrote was as follows (since you preferred to criticise me out of context rather than quote what I actually wrote)
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You can apply for registration with AHPRA towards the end of your conversion course. Obviously if you have chosen one of the courses that only require IELTS 6.5 (ECU and Murdoch) you will need to get an IELTS of 7 at some time before you approach AHPRA. That should be not difficult at all if you are studying in Australia for 12 months! Take the time to assimilate into the community, as you should do, speak and breathe English while you have the chance, IELTS is not easy.
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In the complete post I set out all the options, and it would be entirely up to the individual to decide which option they wish to persue; in the quoted section above I made it crystal clear that if you do enter with IELTS 6.5 then you most definitely need to get IELTS 7 before applying to AHPRA.
But really... how hard is it for a graduate, knowing all this beforehand, to advance from 6.5 to 7 when he/she is living in an English speaking country for several months ? If I were in such a situation I would make it a priority to do everything necessary to improve my English skills. Too often in Australia I observe filipinos not assimilating but instead talking Tagalog or cebuano amongst themselves and staying in their own little world together. I would venture to say your friend did not make the necessary effort and perhaps should have enrolled in her English classes upon arrival in Australia.
I refer you to this thread by British citizens who failed their IELTS and OET,
'kenco' failed the OET and 'mummuytummy' failed the IELTS. These are some examples of native English speakers who failed. I'm sure they lived in the UK for more than a year. There was a Nursing Times journal (a UK magazine for nurses) early 2000 which showed a survey of English nurses who took the IELTS exam. I can't remember if it was a sample of 100 or more but of the total examines only 51% passed the first time. It must be a surprise to you that native English speakers can also dread and fail the IELTS. So please enlighten us. Where did you get the idea that if you live, speak, and breathe English while in Australia that it would not be difficult to pass the IELTS?
Your statement also read "THAT SHOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT AT ALL if you are studying in Australia for 12 months". In the same paragraph you also wrote "IELTS IS NOT EASY". You wrote that IELTS will not be difficult at all if you study in Australia for 12 months. You only need to assimilate in the community, speak and breathe English because IELTS is not easy?
Your suggestion now is that if you fail the IELTS in the Philippines then you should also enrol in English classes upon arrival in Australia? FYI, the girl was not my friend, only another disillusioned Filipino nurse who did not get their IELTS sorted before coming to Australia and now work as Carers and domestic cleaners instead of registered nurses.
'frenchfries' question was what if he/she fails the IELTS after doing the course in Australia and before registering with AHPRA - ANSWER - sit the test again. ADVICE - take the IELTS before you leave the Philippines.
I'm about to finish my studies this month. Now if ever I pass my IELTS this July and I get to wait for my registration, is there any way I can extend my visa so I have enough time to search for a sponsor? My visa will expire on Aug. BTW. the only option i know is to take another course to extend my stay here. Please help
To those who wants to go to Australia to study. It is a much wiser decision to get IELTS 7 first before going overseas. It will lessen your burden after you graduate. Believe me.
Now for those who want to get IELTS 7 while studying the conversion course, it is alright as long as you find work immediately. Find find find find a job! I am pressuring you, find a job! IELTS is worth 330 AUD. And I advice you to take IELTS early but make sure that you're confident enough to take it. What I meant is practice a lot if you are not that fluent in English. Know your weakness. Most takers get a low score in writing and reading. Now if you fail, then you have the entire year to take it again and again and again and you have a job to help you for the funds.
The usual dilemma of students who are graduating this year is the IELTS. We did conversion course and we had our chance to take IELTS earlier but we didn't. Instead we took it in 2-3 months before graduation. And surprise surprise most of us didn't get the IELTS 7 band! Now majority of us are worrying about how to extend our visa just for the sake of IELTS. We are supposed to concentrate for our registration and passing the papers, but now we have to think of more moolah for our stay here.
Don't follow us. Be wise. Either take the IELTS before going to Australia, or take it early while studying here. You choose.
I can't get that option because I have work and I need work to survive here. Furthermore, getting those visa or even the ELICOS student visa will put me at risk of getting the "no further stay" condition. And I can't afford to go back home and make another application to come back to Australia.
Some of my classmates mentioned about visa extension while waiting for the registration result but I've checked the immigration website and nothing about that visa is written here. I've read about bridging visa but it doesn't seem to apply for our current situation.
If anybody has an idea about visa extension after graduation, please tell me.
to all that do not have english requirement before leaving homeland - get it. This has been ongoing for the past 3 years since AHPRA began and before that the state nursing boards put up their english requirement, due to poor patient outcomes and poor communication with other health professionals. (was involved in a court case with one nurse from Phillipines due to poor communication) I will never forget that time nor that patient.
Whether this is the ideal test for fixing these problems? do not know, but a standard has been set and is the requirement. Has anyone thought of the other test OET, it is reported to be a more kindly test.
Coming to Australia knowing you had to study, work and pass IELTS test was in hindsight,all concurrently, was not going to happen,
You may have to return home and do the IELTS there, some nurses have managed to get jobs/sponsorship by applying from home online and you can complete your registration once you have the IELTS from there.
I know this is not what you want to hear, but remaining in Australia, is not going to help you pass IELTS/OET nor get you a job, and will continue to cost money.
Going home might be a better option for others who have job experiences as long as they get the registration and do it online. However I don't have any work experience when I came here. The only experience I have these days is my current work as a carer in the nursing home. I have confidence that I can get the IELTS score needed as long as I'm given enough time to prepare for it. I had Chinese classmates who are less fluent than me but was able to get the score they want after several practices and takes. In my case, I know I have a better chance of getting the 7 band although I'm not expecting to get it in one take.
And while studying, not getting a job? As long as you're not picky you can get one. My advice is go to an agency first to help seek for a job. These were my classmates stepping stones. Some of them worked as a cleaner first or kitchen assistant, some did volunteer work then eventually absorbed by the nursing homes. It's just a matter of effort and wise decision.
Now finding a nursing job after registration is the biggest challenge. I don't know how to achieve this yet but nothing's impossible when there's perseverance.
Having no work experience as an RN is not going to get you a job any easier being in Australia. What if you do not have work rights after student visa,? Do not work as kitchenhand or cleaner and not have a visa that allows you to work. Immigration is watching. You need to have 7 in IELTS in one sitting.
I have perseverance, many people have perseverance, but I still need to work within boundries of the law and society.
3.What if i cant find a job in my visa period??(visa period after course is just one month. In that period, v must register with AHPRA and NMC and job hunting...!! seems impossible in the current context.)
Clues???!!
Thanks
Jim
2. UNISA will give us a non-award visa, not the student one. They said that it can be extended up to a month after the course.
3. while we are doing the course, we should already apply with potential employers, and AHPRA registration will follow after the course is finished, about 2 weeks time.
bobby123
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I refer you to this thread by British citizens who failed their IELTS and OET,
http://www.pomsinadelaide.com/forum/jobs-careers/22030-uk-nurses-ielts-please-read.html
'kenco' failed the OET and 'mummuytummy' failed the IELTS. These are some examples of native English speakers who failed. I'm sure they lived in the UK for more than a year. There was a Nursing Times journal (a UK magazine for nurses) early 2000 which showed a survey of English nurses who took the IELTS exam. I can't remember if it was a sample of 100 or more but of the total examines only 51% passed the first time. It must be a surprise to you that native English speakers can also dread and fail the IELTS. So please enlighten us. Where did you get the idea that if you live, speak, and breathe English while in Australia that it would not be difficult to pass the IELTS?
Your statement also read "THAT SHOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT AT ALL if you are studying in Australia for 12 months". In the same paragraph you also wrote "IELTS IS NOT EASY". You wrote that IELTS will not be difficult at all if you study in Australia for 12 months. You only need to assimilate in the community, speak and breathe English because IELTS is not easy?
Your suggestion now is that if you fail the IELTS in the Philippines then you should also enrol in English classes upon arrival in Australia? FYI, the girl was not my friend, only another disillusioned Filipino nurse who did not get their IELTS sorted before coming to Australia and now work as Carers and domestic cleaners instead of registered nurses.
'frenchfries' question was what if he/she fails the IELTS after doing the course in Australia and before registering with AHPRA - ANSWER - sit the test again. ADVICE - take the IELTS before you leave the Philippines.