New grad Filipino nurse wanting to work in Australia/New Zealand Part 2

ceridwyn · Aug 5, 2011

The nurses mentioned doing the bridging course at CON did not by any chance work as a nurse in english speaking country for say, around 3 months? because that is the only way they would have been exempt.....FROM THE ielts or an english test. I find it highly unusual that a nurse from Nepal would have been to a high school and university that taught in english nor China, most likely have worked in an english speaking country.

Heaven help our patients with nurse with the standard of english taught by people that english is their second language.

Once again, I have been through a court case to give evidence against a nurse that knew her english was poor but continued to practise back in the old days when overseas nurses did not have to have an english test. This nurse stated she was taught in secondary school and nursing school that she was taught in english also!

Also think about this, Nurses with stilted english will not get a job, because their english will not be of standard, , they may not pass the bridging course, they may not pass your university course, they may be reported by patients to their employer.

They may think you can speak good english, BUT they have never had to speak it constantly at university with family or and this is the most important.........CONSTANTLY AND CLEARLY, QUICKLY IN A CLINICAL ENVIRONMENT WITH OTHER HEALTH PROFESSIONALS WHERE NO OTHER LANGUAGE IS USED OR UNDERSTOOD....we do not use American phrases here our drugs have different names and we have many people of different cultures, also with their broken english......if overseas nurses for ESL countries do not speak english just about as good as they think and speak in their language and quickly they will not get a job or keep it.

Patients will be at risk and their colleagues will be absolutely p....o...

and think about this.......would people from non english as first language countries, like me who say, was taught at secondary school and unversity by people that english was their first language, to nurse their relatives or their friends in one of their hospitals, with the language that was taught to me by english first language speakers here in Australia and I was never tested on how fluent I was in understanding, writing it or listening to it in the language that I was now suppose to know fluently, both writting and reading, knowing that I never ever used that language solely in a clinical environment before I went there!!.

Personally I will not employ a nurse that does not speak english that does not speak clearly, a nurse that I understand first off and understand me straight off as well. Thats the way it is...it is my duty of care to my patients.

Australia the walk in country where you argue 'stand up for rights' and tell people the rules or how they should be, no matter the consequences.....shez......

bobby123 · Aug 5, 2011

network, network, network?

What do you mean by this? Can you kindly elaborate about this? Thanks.

Sure... Network - interact with people to exchange information and develop contacts especially to further one's career

I assume you are an RN from the Philippines wanting to become an RN in Australia. This thread is one of your networks. Another one would be other forumers like yourself who would be in the same boat. Another one would be forumers that are either doing their BP or RNs in the location you would be going to ie SA, WA, NT, VIC,TAS, ACT. Another one would be your classmates, friends and relatives. And then another one would be your classmates, room mates, flatmates once you are here. They can all provide you valuable info and hopefully help you with your OZ dream.

bobby123 · Aug 5, 2011

To UR49

I think you are confused with the statement that you yourself provided. You highlighted

unless special circumstances apply - the statement means that because you will be a professional with a practicing certificate or licence and will need excellent communication skills, your grasp of the English language will have to be higher than say somebody who will be doing carpentry or masonry. AHPRA requires you to have a score of 7 in speaking, reading, writing and listening before you can register to practice. Simply put the standard of English required is much higher because of your profession.

jedcarl · Aug 5, 2011

but you took your ielts already, im dreadful of taking mine again. tsk tsk. i don't know yet. i emailed ****** of hph regarding senior first aid cert, working with children cert and mrsa screening and here's her reply (she's quick in responding! kudos to her! haha!)
you do not need those documents at this time. i just need you to fill in the form and send it back to me. you can get senior first aid from red cross in the philippines . the working with children i would need to help you with when you get here. mrsa swab results from hands, nose & throat are needed again only if you get accepted.
im off to work. ill let you know once i heard from red cross. kindly update me too if you have info. thanks!

hi xekie! better have options b,c,d in planning as to where you'll take your bp, its kinda frustrating in trying to apply at hph when in the end you were not lucky to be selected after the long wait you have done, last july,they have a total of around 180 applicants of which 25 are only selected, adding to that, you are competing with oz citizens and pr applicants too which has higher priority than us.

sweet_toothRN · Aug 5, 2011

Thank you cioman for your reply regarding the OET. I know it is accepted by AHPRA but I am unsure whether it's also accepted by DIAC for a 457 application.

So do you guys know anyone (a classmate in BP perhaps, or one of your colleagues) who used OET as proof of English FOR DIAC and are now under a 457 visa? I want to know if someone has succeeded in this alternative route... Thanks again

gl25 · Aug 5, 2011

hi again xekie... i called redcross today about the senior first aid certificate.. well its the same BLS with Standard first aid.. they have it in quezon city chapter every week starting monday to saturday (6 days). you just have to go to thier office to register and pay 1,700 pesos. just try to call the chapter nearest to ur location, I think all the chapters are providing it.

hayyyyyyyssssss.... 1 week leave to do this hehehehe, do u think other BP schools also need this requirement? I am having a headache hehehehe

hmmm about the ielts, mine will expire next yr (april) so i will surely retake it. im having seconds thoughts if i should do the exam again before the end of this year so i woudnt have any problems anymore if they ask it.

well, goodluck to us!!! keep posting any updates ... thanks!

mikecubillas · Aug 5, 2011

Hello! Can anybody tell me what are the documents needed for the application of registration for the nursing board in Australia? Is it the same as the NZNC? Thank you.

cioman94 · Aug 5, 2011

oh dear, i don't know what to say. i could've missed your previous post, sorry. looking at the brighter side, i'll retake my IELTS this year and enroll for BP next year. it's kinda frustrating though. are you taking your BP at mercy health? i only have relatives in sydney that's why i have no choice but to enroll in CON.
thank you, joiemike. sigh.

1) do you want to enrol in IELTS review in the Phils. and take the exam there?

or

2) do you want to do Self IELTS review here in Oz. and take the exam here ?

Me, i choose no. 1 option.... but i have no choice now, i have to do no. 2 because im already here.. im planning to call my ielts reviewer there in the phils. and arrange with her to check my writing practice tests, i'll scan and email my writing composition.. that's how desperate or how i wish that i could be in PHils. just for the ielts..

cioman94 · Aug 6, 2011

For those asking what HPH is, it is hollywood private hospital

FYI.... HPH is the most super dooper IDEAL BP school/provider that you should try to apply......

it is the cheapest as far as i know.... HPH is owned by a group which operates hospitals all over Oz... hence, you can be hired by the group after BP...

WARNING... it is the most competitive BP school/provider to apply for..... it involves good credentials and luck to be accepted... therefore, always prepare for plan B.. hope for the best, expect the worst for your application at HPH..

cioman94 · Aug 6, 2011

Thank you cioman for your reply regarding the OET. I know it is accepted by AHPRA but I am unsure whether it's also accepted by DIAC for a 457 application.
So do you guys know anyone (a classmate in BP perhaps, or one of your colleagues) who used OET as proof of English FOR DIAC and are now under a 457 visa? I want to know if someone has succeeded in this alternative route... Thanks again

for DIAC, it can be... if you want to be sure you can call DIAC hotline number.. that question is very basic to them therefore they are willing to easily give you an answer.. if you ask "complex" question then they will advise you to seek a migration agent..

cioman94 · Aug 6, 2011

Hello! Can anybody tell me what are the documents needed for the application of registration for the nursing board in Australia? Is it the same as the NZNC? Thank you.

yes.. it is in the AHPRA website, or you can also trace Glioblastoma's posts in this thread...

U.S. NCLEX requirements are different from Australia... but they have some similarities.. NZNC is not in Australia..

mkpl · Aug 6, 2011

my friend is studying at Flinders right now. I don't know what specific program but I know she said it's a "post registration" nursing program. She's got no nursing experience so maybe that's the reason she opted for this route.

that's the reason why, i don't have enough experience yet. so I'm thinking of going for Flinders (1year BP), and that would give me enough time to look for an employer/sponsor