New grad Filipino nurse wanting to work in Australia/New Zealand Part 2

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Due to recent changes regarding applications for International nurses to Australia and the combining of the nursing boards to one central nursing board in Australia AHPRA I have started a new thread for people to discuss the new process on working in Australia.

Currently New Zealand is not accepting new applicants from International trained nurses except those that meet the Trans Tasman Mutual Recognition Agreement {TTMR} this will be updated once the New Zealand nursing board reopen their books to International nurses.

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Part 1 thread New grad Filipino nurse wanting to work in Australia/New Zealand - Nursing for Nurses

Good News to those RNs who cannot get straight 7.0 in their IELTS exam.

I'm currently taking my bridging program at the College of Nursing and most of my classmates did not take their IELTS (Filipinos, Nepalese, Chinese, South African and Indians) they just passed certificates that ENGLISH was the medium of instruction of their secondary and tertiary education to AHPRA. They were all granted eligibility letters. However, as stated by my classmates at first, CON was apprehensive of accepting students without IELTS but these students stood up and fight for their rights. Their argument was that AHPRA already recognized their English as acceptable in terms of their years of education using English as medium of instruction. I think they emailed their case officer from AHPRA about the matter. Their case officer sent a letter to CON to allow them to enter the bridging course. Due to this, I think they will be more lenient to those without IELTS but with AHPRA eligibility letter.

Good News to those RNs who cannot get straight 7.0 in their IELTS exam.

I'm currently taking my bridging program at the College of Nursing and most of my classmates did not take their IELTS (Filipinos, Nepalese, Chinese, South African and Indians) they just passed certificates that ENGLISH was the medium of instruction of their secondary and tertiary education to AHPRA. They were all granted eligibility letters. However, as stated by my classmates at first, CON was apprehensive of accepting students without IELTS but these students stood up and fight for their rights. Their argument was that AHPRA already recognized their English as acceptable in terms of their years of education using English as medium of instruction. I think they emailed their case officer from AHPRA about the matter. Their case officer sent a letter to CON to allow them to enter the bridging course. Due to this, I think they will be more lenient to those without IELTS but with AHPRA eligibility letter.

How about DIAC? Will they give you a working visa without IELTS? What about applying for PR as well?:confused:

How about DIAC? Will they give you a working visa without IELTS? What about applying for PR as well?:confused:

My classmates told me that DIAC only needs the registration/license and employer sponsorship to be approved of 457 visa.

English language proficiency requirements (DIAC)

Where the nominated occupation requires a higher level of English (equivalent to IELTS test score of more than 5 in each of the four test components) because it forms part of that occupation’s registration, licensing or membership requirement, the visa applicant must have at least the standard of English language proficiency required for the grant of that registration, licence or membership.

If you have read the DIAC website (above) it is implied that as long as the professional satisfied the standard of English language proficiency for registration, which is AHPRA for nurses. There will be no more problems with regard to English for those who were given registration by AHPRA. So the case of my classmates, they already satisfied the english requirement of AHPRA and they only need to prove to AHPRA that they are a competent nurse by passing the BP. Well, that's my understanding of the situation. There may be no need to pass an IELTS to DIAC because AHPRA is the registration body, if you passed the criteria then you also passed DIAC.

To reiterate, my classmates were granted eligibility and after the BP will be RNs. Therefore, they already passed the standards of AHPRA so why will DIAC interfere? or discredit their registration?

With regards to PR, I believe nurses should take IELTS because they have to reach 65 points. I think IELTS 8 is 20 points and IELTS 7 is 10 points, please correct me if I'm wrong. It's a great help to achieve the desired score for PR. However, if you have heaps of nursing experience (5-10 yrs) and 1-2 yr experience here in Australia. These would give you enough points even without the IELTS. In my opinion, IELTS will not be necessary as long as you achieve 65 points for those experienced nurses.

Please don't quote me or judge me again on my opinions. If my statements are wrong or doubtful for you, you can do your own research. I'm just here to help and guide nurses.

In my opinion, my classmates told me that DIAC only needs the registration/license and employer sponsorship to be approved of 457 visa. If you will read the DIAC website it is implied that as long as the professional satisfied their professional regulatory body which is AHPRA for nurses. There will be no more problems with regard to English. Well, that's my understanding. To reiterate, my classmates were granted eligibility and after the BP will be RNs. Therefore, they already passed the standards of AHPRA so why does DIAC will interfere? or discredit their registration?

With regards to PR, I believe nurses should take IELTS because they have to reach 65 points. I think IELTS 8 is 20 points and IELTS 7 is 10 points, please correct me if I'm wrong. It's a great help to achieve the desired score for PR. However, if you have heaps of nursing experience (5-10 yrs) and 1-2 yr experience here in Australia. These would give you enough points even without the IELTS. In my opinion, IELTS will not be necessary as long as you achieve 65 points for those experienced nurses.

Please don't quote me or judge me again on my opinions. If my statements are wrong or doubtful for you, you can do your own research. I'm just here to help and guide nurses.

I had the same thought in mind... but then i don't have anything to prove it and almost everyone here thinks IELTS is a must for working visa... I had just applied for ielts yesterday... If you're right UR49, them im wasting huge amounts of money, energy and time... not to mention the nerve-racking emotions I feel as each day draws closer to the test....hahay...:crying2:

Has anyone here acquired their working visa even with an expired IELTS?? anyone???:confused:

In my opinion, my classmates told me that DIAC only needs the registration/license and employer sponsorship to be approved of 457 visa. If you will read the DIAC website it is implied that as long as the professional satisfied their professional regulatory body which is AHPRA for nurses. There will be no more problems with regard to English. Well, that's my understanding. To reiterate, my classmates were granted eligibility and after the BP will be RNs. Therefore, they already passed the standards of AHPRA so why does DIAC will interfere? or discredit their registration?

With regards to PR, I believe nurses should take IELTS because they have to reach 65 points. I think IELTS 8 is 20 points and IELTS 7 is 10 points, please correct me if I'm wrong. It's a great help to achieve the desired score for PR. However, if you have heaps of nursing experience (5-10 yrs) and 1-2 yr experience here in Australia. These would give you enough points even without the IELTS. In my opinion, IELTS will not be necessary as long as you achieve 65 points for those experienced nurses.

Please don't quote me or judge me again on my opinions. If my statements are wrong or doubtful for you, you can do your own research. I'm just here to help and guide nurses.

That would really be good news for those who are able to go through this pathway. I just hope this will be applicable to most if not all. Which state did your classmates submit their AHPRA applications?:idea:

Specializes in Acute Care. ER. Aged Care/LTC. Psyche.

just my opinion,

it's better to have the IELTS right now, and keep it current (or to the point, at least, that you need it). this way you don't have to worry about proving your English language proficiency and will minimize the risk of irregularities when it comes to several organizations requiring different English language proficiency evidence. IELTS is their main standard (and OET), so we might as well just get it done and follow the standard.

I had the same thought in mind... but then i don't have anything to prove it and almost everyone here thinks IELTS is a must for working visa... I had just applied for ielts yesterday... If you're right UR49, them im wasting huge amounts of money, energy and time... not to mention the nerve-racking emotions I feel as each day draws closer to the test....hahay...:crying2:

Has anyone here acquired their working visa even with an expired IELTS?? anyone???:confused:

Yup.... Can anyone here attest that he or she got his or her RN license from AHPRA without the IELTS requirement? And, I think DIAC is a totally different "species" of animal (hehehehe). AHPRA and DIAC are mutually exclusive. What may be good for one may not be good enough for the other.

Has anyone here experienced himself or herself being able to get the 457 working visa without the IELTS test result? It's best to get the facts from the horse's mouth than hearsay. The proof of the pudding is in the eating....:lol2::yeah:

IELTS IS DEFINITELY REQUIRED FOR VISA 457 BUSINESS LONG STAY VISA. My classmates who are all working in australia under 457 were all required ielts. check out 1066 application form and booklet 9 for 457 visa

just my opinion,

it's better to have the IELTS right now, and keep it current (or to the point, at least, that you need it). this way you don't have to worry about proving your English language proficiency and will minimize the risk of irregularities when it comes to several organizations requiring different English language proficiency evidence. IELTS is their main standard (and OET), so we might as well just get it done and follow the standard.

I absolutely agree iamnomad. Most BP schools require you to submit a certified copy of your current IELTS result. Mercy Health, one of the BP schools, even advise the applicant to make sure his/her IELTS test result to remain current after graduating from the course before AHPRA will release the RN license. Another BP school, I think Castlemaine Health (if I'm not mistaken), even give a premium to nurses with 3 to 5 years work experience AND excellent English communication skills. The proof for them is your IELTS test result. And my niece, who is now an RN in Australia, told me that prospective employers really prefer job applicants to have good command of the English language. They will check your IELTS test results in your CV. They also check your command of English during the job interview itself.

I am not trying to discredit the option of not going through the IELTS requirement here. But I think it really makes it easier for us to land a job to take the IELTS test and get the minimum score required. Competition is now getting stiffer to get nursing jobs in Australia or any other first world English speaking country. It's best to arm yourself with more tools and "ammunition" to hurdle the obstacles and achieve one's dream of landing a decent paying occupation. So guys, don't fear taking the IELTS test. Even if you, indeed, are able to get your RN license from AHPRA without the IELTS, treat the test as a practice to prepare you to meet the challenges of working in an English speaking country. :clown:

IELTS IS DEFINITELY REQUIRED FOR VISA 457 BUSINESS LONG STAY VISA. My classmates who are all working in australia under 457 were all required ielts. check out 1066 application form and booklet 9 for 457 visa

hello hai_ho09.... thanks for this.. i did read about the IELTS requirement.. It did say that you need to prove your IELTS but it didn't say that it has to be current... so if you have taken the test before then you can still use that as proof?? Im not sure about this... either way, I guess i'm still taking my ielts this month again...:uhoh3:

IELTS IS DEFINITELY REQUIRED FOR VISA 457 BUSINESS LONG STAY VISA. My classmates who are all working in australia under 457 were all required ielts. check out 1066 application form and booklet 9 for 457 visa

English assessment (1066 Application Form)

All primary persons nominated by an employer under

standard business sponsorship arrangements must be assessed

against an English language requirement.

If you are applying for a subclass 457 visa you must have English

language skills at least equivalent to a score of 5 in each of the

4 test components in an International English Language Testing

System (IELTS) test, unless special circumstances apply.

Where you would be working in an occupation that requires a

higher standard of English for your skills to be recognised by

registration, licencing or professional membership bodies in

Australia, you must have that level of English.

Primary persons may be required to have their English assessed

through a formal test. If the primary person is unable to meet

the threshold English requirements, the application will be

refused.

The visa officer may need to verify your claims and ask you to

take a test. You may need to provide details of:

* your secondary and/or higher education if it included

instruction in English;

* the results of an IELTS test; or

* other evidence.

As noted above, I believe that as long as the applicant satisfied and/or passed the criteria of the registration body (AHPRA). The applicant may not be subjected to a formal test for as long as he can provide evidence like AHPRA nursing license and secondary and/or higher education if it included instruction in English.

I don't mean to offend anyone with my opinions and recommendations. If you're stuck with what you know then so be it. Who's gonna be forever questioning themselves, what if I did that or what if I have followed his/her suggestions. Please be reminded, I'm just here to advice and not to confuse anybody. I'm laying all out the possible options and outcomes.

That would really be good news for those who are able to go through this pathway. I just hope this will be applicable to most if not all. Which state did your classmates submit their AHPRA applications?:idea:

They submitted their applications to Queensland, ACT, WA and Victoria.

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