New grad Filipino nurse wanting to work in Australia/New Zealand

[rnrn07]

Hi everyone, please help me.

I graduated last march 2007 here in the Philippines and I have my license here already.

Because of oversupply of nurses here, it's too difficult to find a job.

That's why I'm looking forward to working in Australia or New Zealand.

However, I'm confused. Esp about Australia.

I already have my bachelors degree here.

When I go there in Aus to work as RN, must I take a diploma in nursing first? can I work while studying?

After obtaining my diploma there, am I already a registered nurse?

Thank you!

[salmonella]

...tell me about it...:) that's why answers in this forum are sooooooooooooo helpful!

it says in the app form that if the answer to question 17 is a yes: "one must provide evidence." if it's a no: "one must arrange for evidence of successful completion of a board approved english language test to be provided directly to the board by the testing authority"...i'm guessing i should tick the "no" box (?)

Hi bbniss. I actually ticked yes because in my understanding here in the Phils.,my secondary education referred to high school (Is it? Now im confused):uhoh3:Thus, I included my High School diploma. But then, Cerydwin was right, so I still included my IELTS result (certified copy aside from the TRF). I just dunno what liaa and mikyong did. Paging liaa and mikyong?:idea:So maybe it should be a NO after all.

[ceridwyn]

Secondary school/ High school same thing as long as it was after 6-7 years of a junior type school. The high/secondary school should be 6 years long and all instruction in english, this high/secondary schooling should not be part of your nursing degree.. Also the IELTS is forward to AHPRA from the test centre, you do not forward it to AHPRHA

This link has the latest explanation about english requirements:

AHPRA - FAQ and Fact Sheets

You may have been instructed in english but the clue is here they talk of the requisite level which here is 6 years of high/secondary school, 13 years of school all up.

""Evidence that both were taught and assessed in English is also required as well as evidence of the requisite level"

""Evidence may include but is not limited to a school leaving certificate or a Year 12 certificate.""

I have done a bit of research, do you guys only do 4 years of high/secondary school? and is it soley in english? this answers alot of questions.

Oh do not take any notice of me, but it does not seem right that someone that does 4 years of high school gets university entrance, no english testing, even if they were taught in english when us, over here have to do 6 years of english do big exams in it to get university entrance, if they (the new board allows this one, it will cause quite a stirr) especially when many nurses that have come here in the past have had very poor english skills, before they brought in english testing for all overseas nurses.

[Doza]

To go to a Philippine university you must pass that university's entrance exam, which may include IQ, english, math and science tests. University exams are pretty major here too, not just there in Australia, especially if you want to get into the best schools. Unfortunately no one bothers to translate all the subjects to the local dialect. In my university, they started a biology pilot class in Filipino, and it was unsuccessful, no one wanted to take it.

All subjects in high school are in Filipino, except for the Filipino language class and social studies. I did 4 years of high school in one of the top high schools in the country and I never thought of my education as inferior. I often wondered why other countries had theirs longer. Maybe the curiosity is for both sides. Otherwise if it were not adequate, Filipinos wouldn't get into the bigger, more famous universities like Harvard or Princeton. All this hullabaloo for inadequate high school years will end once the government implements its planned 12 year schooling, which may be implemented because they too believe it is inadequate for the regular pinoy.

I have noticed that Filipinos have an easier time with written english than conversational english. You can even see that based on their ielts. Most use a combination of English and their local dialect in conversations. Others just use english in school or work. Many are well versed in english more than the predominant Filipino language. Many grow up in an English speaking household. The Philippines has 7000 dialects. On order for us to understand each other, english is the easiest language to use.

BTW, I do believe a language test is necessary to get employment in another country.

[ceridwyn]

Thanks for your explanation Doza, so therefore high/school education is not done entirely in english? Yeah every website you go to states the Phillipines has less schooling than anywhere else, 6 years primary 4 years secondary thats only 10 years of schooling.

I myself believe the best education is travelling, but when it comes to academia that is alot shorter than anywhere else, does not mean anything unless your school days are like 8-10 years long, yuck, and another thing this four year BSN really is only 2 years of nursing, the first 2 years is a generic degree with other health degrees? is this right? It makes it a 2 year nursing degree really! or have I got it wrong?

Sorry for the questions, just trying to get a handle on it.

A few years ago I had some colleagues, that were Phillipino's, said that part of their high school was included in their nursing degree.....they giggled alot and then said that they had done very little subjects of actual nursing but altogether they got to call it a four year nursing degree.....does not sound right to me, but from that time on I thought the Phillipino degree is not a trully fully 4year study of nursing, as our 4 year degree (if you do honours or rural health as well degrees as every subject does pertain to a nursing subject), this would again account for some countries expecting many assessments and further education.

The bottom line is then: if you have not done your secondary/high school entirely in english the answer is still, no and the IELTS test has to be completed.

[Doza]

I thought nursing in Australia is 3 years? Maybe I got that one wrong. Thanks for saying so.

Nursing here is 4 years. First year with general education subjects as required by law. Summer of the freshman year until graduation are the major subjects. At least that's how it is where I went.

As far as I know you can't include high school with nursing. Never heard this one here. I hope you heard wrong. I'm a stickler for rules. If people don't deserve to be where they are, they should be sent back. I wouldn't want to work with people that cheat their way too.

Yeah, I wish our nursing board and education department were more strict. Heard of numerous schools I wish were shut down too. Just remember, not everyone came from there. With Australia's tightened requirements, you might well be on the way to weed out the bad and get the immigrants you deserve.

Also, Filipino is with a FILI :)

[Abhylicious]

Hi Abhy..yap I just included my RLE attached to my other credentials. i intend to go for ETEA in Victoria because my bro. lives in Melbourne. But for now, I am still waiting for AHPRA's Assessment. Im trying to call AHPRA but I cannot get through AHPRA's number. have you mailed yours too?:)

I personally submit my papers on 04 August.. They have told me that the processing will be delayed because of the back logs from NVB.. when did you process yours? are you here in Australia?

[cioman94]

maybe those Filipino nurses who said nursing is 2 years plus high school years counted were making a retarded bad joke.. shame on them..

[cioman94]

Thanks Cioman for really taking time to answer my questions.:) The vaccines that you have mentioned are quite expensive but all in all i think it would be all worth it especially if it would give us a clear picture of our health profile and more so if it would mean a brighter future for us nurses wishing to work in OZ. I just hope there is Med Rep here who could give us a cheaper price.hehehe!

sorry, i thought i had it cheap, bcoz i asked drednag and he told me to prepare 10,000... and i spent lesser so i felt lucky:yeah:.. effects of mind conditioning..

[cioman94]

I personally submit my papers on 04 August.. They have told me that the processing will be delayed because of the back logs from NVB.. when did you process yours? are you here in Australia?

thanks for the update...

[mikyong]

Hi bbniss. I actually ticked yes because in my understanding here in the Phils.,my secondary education referred to high school (Is it? Now im confused):uhoh3:Thus, I included my High School diploma. But then, Cerydwin was right, so I still included my IELTS result (certified copy aside from the TRF). I just dunno what liaa and mikyong did. Paging liaa and mikyong?:idea:So maybe it should be a NO after all.

hello. .. :)

I ticked the NO option... as per AHPRA's site instructions which has been stated and explained above by cerydwin.

[blinq]

Heads up nurses...

Just to inspire everyone who are planning to do the bridging/conversion in Oz.

Wifey together with 7 Pinoy nurses who took the 6 months bridging program at Curtin University got their registration today :).

After all the sleepless nights doing case studies, writing analytical essays, the clinical placement and being away from family and love ones, their effort finally paid off as they are now certified Oz nurses :).

The hunt for employers willing to sponsor continues :).

Good luck everyone!

[i.kristianmark]

Heads up nurses...

Just to inspire everyone who are planning to do the bridging/conversion in Oz.

Wifey together with 7 Pinoy nurses who took the 6 months bridging program at Curtin University got their registration today :).

After all the sleepless nights doing case studies, writing analytical essays, the clinical placement and being away from family and love ones, their effort finally paid off as they are now certified Oz nurses :).

The hunt for employers willing to sponsor continues :).

Good luck everyone!

So HAPPY to hear about this!!! Congratulations to all our Pinoy nurses who have made it!

How long did it take for them to get their registration from AHPRA after they've finished their bridging program?