New grad Filipino nurse wanting to work in Australia/New Zealand

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Hi everyone, please help me.

I graduated last march 2007 here in the Philippines and I have my license here already.

Because of oversupply of nurses here, it's too difficult to find a job.

That's why I'm looking forward to working in Australia or New Zealand.

However, I'm confused. Esp about Australia.

I already have my bachelors degree here.

When I go there in Aus to work as RN, must I take a diploma in nursing first? can I work while studying?

After obtaining my diploma there, am I already a registered nurse?

Thank you!

@countmein... yeah,,, and sometimes they quite scary... :(

@wahine888 did you directly call ETEA? were you able to talk to a "lady"? because Im still counting on the April intake, and you mentioned the next intake for ETEA is 4th of july.... me sad, if this happens to be true.

Yup, I called ETEA directly. I forgot whom I talked to but, yes, she said the there is a July 4 intake. I forgot if she mentioned anything about the April though :)

@countmein... yeah,,, and sometimes they quite scary... :(

@wahine888 did you directly call ETEA? were you able to talk to a "lady"? because Im still counting on the April intake, and you mentioned the next intake for ETEA is 4th of july.... me sad, if this happens to be true.

also, they have a $150 application fee and the tuition is $10,900. Good news is there's no closing date for the July 4 intake application.

@countmein If you read the info about student visa, you will see that the course you will take must be registered under CRICOS or Commonwealth Register of Institutions and Courses for Overseas Student. However, if the course you will take is only 3-month long, you can apply for the 456 Business short stay visa, and it won't matter if your course is CRICOS registered or not. It will most definitely be a plus point if you will take a CRICOS registered course since the standards of training is higher, which could probably matter if you eventually have your credentials assessed by the ANMC for permanent residency/work visa purposes. Those institutions who offer the non-CRICOS registered IRON/BP like ETEA, are ACCREDITED by the NBV but NOT REGISTERED TRAINING ORGANIZATIONS. I have asked Oz-based migration experts about this and consensus said that it's better to take a registered course. ANMC is getting stricter when assessing skilled migrants for PR so perhaps a registered course will do good for our credentials :)

Guys, I have a question. What's the difference between 3-6 months bridging course and 1 year bridging course?

Hello! I think I can answer your question but I'm not 100% sure it's correct. I applied also in Murdoch University in Perth for their 1 year Bachelor of Nursing Conversion Program since it's the only Uni in Perth that doesn't require any nursing experience. They don't call it IRON like the 3-month BP courses but it's the same course that will allow me to be registered with NMBWA once I finish the course. It's a course that will convert your Philippine (or wherever you're from) BSN degree to an Australian degree. And it's categorized under a 'higher education course' if you're going to apply for a student visa. The IRON or Initial Registration for Overseas Nurses course, on the other hand, is a 'non-award' course and it will no lead to an Australian award. It simply 'bridges' your local qualifications to meet the Australian standards of practice. The two courses will still lead to your registration to the the Board of Nurses. And if it's only a 3-month program, you wont need a student visa but a 456 or business short stay visa. I think it's just a matter of which of the programs will meet your qualifications :)

hey, who's taking their bridging at Western Australia? :sofahider is it true that all bridging course providers there have one year duration?

Hi drednag! I am planning to take the BP either in Victoria or Perth, WA. Curtin and Murdoch's conversion courses will run for a year. It's different from the 3-month IRON courses since it will 'convert' your local BSN degree to an Australian degree. So, it as double the tuition fee of the 3-month IRON! I applied at Murdoch already so in case NBV will be late in giving be the eligibility and I won't make it to the June and August intake in Latrobe and Ballarat, I will just go for the 1-year in Perth :)

Specializes in medical/surgical.

dear physteac,

thank you for your inquiry to deakin university, one of australia's most progressive universities.

please provide your date of birth for our records.

return to practice and initial registration (overseas nurses)(h011) this course is to provide nurses who are registered overseas and are not australian citizens with the opportunity to undertake a course of study and clinical experience which will lead to registration as a general nurse with the nurses board of victoria (nvb).

course structure

the course is divided into two components: a six-week academic component and an eight-week clinical component.

academic learning program: (6 weeks)

the academic program comprises six weeks of full time study providing a broad overview of nursing practice in the contemporary australian society and health care system. the program is offered in three different modules of study, including nursing laboratory skills.

modules offered

module 1: nursing in australia

module 2: legal and ethical aspects of australian nursing practise

module 3: political, social and cultural aspects of nursing in australia

clinical learning program: (8 weeks)

the clinical learning program aims to provide an opportunity for the students to gain experience in the australian clinical environment under the supervision and quidance of expert clinicians and clinical facilitators at a ratio of 1:8. students are supernumerary during the 8 weeks. a student at risk of not meeting competency standards will be placed on review and special objectives will be developed to assist the student. students may be recommended for registration one competencies are demonstrated and prior to completion of clinical learning program.

module offered

module 4 clinical learning program

admissions requirements

applicants must:

have an overseas nursing qualification

have obtained approval from the nurses board of victoria (gpo box 4932 melbourne 3001 australia) to participate in the course; and

have a current visa. for advice, contact your nearest australian diplomatic mission.

a letter from the nurses board of victoria (nvb) confirming your application for re-registration as a division 1 nurse (date within the previous 2 years)

proof of achievement of a 'b' pass or above in all four sections in the occupational english test (oet), each section to have been passed in the last two years (from the date of the course commencing), or an international english language testing system (ielts) with a minimum of 6.5 in reading and listening and 7 in writing and speaking and an overall band score of at least 7.0.

applicants will be notified as to the outcome of their application. please provide a street address (not a post office box address) to ensure that you receive our correspondence.

how to apply

please find attached the application form for the 14 week pre-registration program for overseas qualified nurses.

the next available intake will run from 15 january 2011 to 23 april 2011.

the cost of the program in 2011 will be approx. $9975.75 aud.

all applications must include the following:

  • - completed application form
  • - letter from nurses board of victoria
  • - ielts or oet that meets the requirements
  • - transcripts of results and award certificate of prior studies
  • - full cv
  • - nurses registration certificate

please contact us if you have any further inquiries.

we look forward to welcoming you to deakin university!

yours sincerely,

_____________________________________________________________________

joseph dwyer

deakin international enquiry manager

deakin international, 70 elgar road, burwood victoria australia

postal: 221 burwood highway burwood victoria 3125 australia

tel: +61 3 9627 4877

fax: +61 3 9244 5094

email: [email protected]

web: www.deakin.edu.au/international

deakin university cricos provider code: 00113b

Specializes in Aged Care.

hi there physteac! when did you mail your docs to NBV? Are you already assessed as an RN?

Wow... so the next intake for Deakin is next year already? Hmm...

hi chocokat and physteac! Seems like all of us are waiting for NBV letter. But I might be up for the longer wait coz I just sent my documents last Tuesday! Did you get any reply from them yet? Like, if they have received your application already or if you need to send more docus? :)

I called Deakin too and the next intake is January '11. Latrobe's earliest intake next year is in January also.

Good luck in your NBV applications :)

Specializes in medical/surgical.
hi there physteac! when did you mail your docs to NBV? Are you already assessed as an RN?

Wow... so the next intake for Deakin is next year already? Hmm...

Hi chocokat,

I'm An RN here. finished my nursing degree at deakin. I'm trying to get one of my niece here who just passed her NLE recently..so you're doing your bridging course at deaki??good choice.. i might see around when you do your clinicals..all the best..hope to meet you one day..who knows..:yeah::)

Specializes in Neuroscience,Aged Care, General Nursing.

@ Haoyin

You have a point-- on the last part of letter states that they will not offer CAS anymore. I'm just really surprised that they assessed me as an EEN.I'm a bit anxious once I submit my documents to NBV and i will get the same assessment as EEN.

Thanks.. All the best ~~

Specializes in Aged Care.
Hi chocokat,

I'm An RN here. finished my nursing degree at deakin. I'm trying to get one of my niece here who just passed her NLE recently..so you're doing your bridging course at deaki??good choice.. i might see around when you do your clinicals..all the best..hope to meet you one day..who knows..:yeah::)

Hi physteac. Nope I haven't applied to NBV yet though I think I might start compiling my requirements in the coming days. I am still waiting for NSW's assessmet. I just asked you because I wanna know as of this time how long does it take for NBV to give out assessments and how long till a course provider responds to a potential student for the BP. :)

Good luck and God bless on your niece's application at Deakin!

Specializes in medical/surgical.
Hi physteac. Nope I haven't applied to NBV yet though I think I might start compiling my requirements in the coming days. I am still waiting for NSW's assessmet. I just asked you because I wanna know as of this time how long does it take for NBV to give out assessments and how long till a course provider responds to a potential student for the BP. :)

Good luck and God bless on your niece's application at Deakin!

OK..it depends if you submitted/completed all necessary requirements.. i would say wait for 4 weeks for the result from NBV..with regards to the uni's response, it won't take that long as long as you have the letter/result from NBV and all other requirements the uni is asking you..just to give you an idea regarding nursing here in melbourne...patient ratio is 1:4 (am shift)..1:5 (pm shift) 8-10 (night shift) pm and night shifts have penalty ratesas well as weekends...so come quick...you'll gonna love it here..patients and staff are great..i would say work environment is very friendly and multi cultural too...so all the best to you..keep your hopes high...:up:

Specializes in Aged Care.
OK..it depends if you submitted/completed all necessary requirements.. i would say wait for 4 weeks for the result from NBV..with regards to the uni's response, it won't take that long as long as you have the letter/result from NBV and all other requirements the uni is asking you..just to give you an idea regarding nursing here in melbourne...patient ratio is 1:4 (am shift)..1:5 (pm shift) 8-10 (night shift) pm and night shifts have penalty ratesas well as weekends...so come quick...you'll gonna love it here..patients and staff are great..i would say work environment is very friendly and multi cultural too...so all the best to you..keep your hopes high...:up:

Thanks physteac for your encouraging words! Wow, your niece is lucky her papers were assessed for just a month. If you've read the latter parts of this thread you would see a lot of people who have been waiting for their assessments for a few months already. But as they always say, its a case to case basis. :yeah:

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